I think the most difficult would be Innuendo - thats why Brian left it to an expert.
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Actually, I think Brian's pretty underrated. He's usually overshadowed by other guitarists, but I think he deserves more credit.
Agreed. Also, John is a decent bassist and Roger a decent drummer, and Freddie a decent pianist, but none of them were as groundbreaking in their instruments as Brian was for guitar. Even on the technical side, John and Roger get beat hands down, no contest, by greats like Entwistle and Myung, Bonham and Peart (not to mention Rich, whom I deem the greatest drummer to ever live). As for pianism...I really don't know enough to formulate an opinion, but I can assure you that Freddie was no 'great'.
To call the lads 'decent' Music Man is a little harsh, but i agree fully on the comments made for Brian.
Decent was meant as a compliment, forgive my misleading use of the adjective.
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I have tried and tried to listen and wonder which song had the most difficult guitar solo. I just do not have a trained ear.
I wonder what song was the hardest vocally for Freddie..or I wonder what song is the most difficult for another vocalist that has a similar range of Freddie.
Shall I start another topic??? lol
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I have tried and tried to listen and wonder which song had the most difficult guitar solo. I just do not have a trained ear.
I wonder what song was the hardest vocally for Freddie..or I wonder what song is the most difficult for another vocalist that has a similar range of Freddie.
Shall I start another topic??? lol
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Hell, start another. Quite interesting responses here. :)
"I think the most difficult would be Innuendo - thats why Brian left it to an expert. "
Thats nonsense. It doesn't mean it's hard. It means that Brian wasn't specialised in playing classical guitar, And therefor hired another guitarist. Is the sax solo in One Year Of Love hard because they hired a sax player?
And no. the Innuendo chromatic runs aren't very hard.
Thats nonsense. It doesn't mean it's hard. It means that Brian wasn't specialised in playing classical guitar, And therefor hired another guitarist. Is the sax solo in One Year Of Love hard because they hired a sax player?
And no. the Innuendo chromatic runs aren't very hard.
To say all Fred does is octave bass and simple chords is just the same as to say all Brian does is pentatonic scales with ocassional blue notes.
Wow... I thought you were some kind of expert, but now I think you're just a fucking moron. Brian's original guitar orchestration approach in Queen songs is unmatched to this day. And his virtually impeccibly clean soloing style is definitely leagues beyond Freddie's talents on piano.
Thats nonsense. It doesn't mean it's hard. It means that Brian wasn't specialised in playing classical guitar, And therefor hired another guitarist
Agreed. Even today, if Brian really wanted to work hard to perfect chromatics at this speed up and down the neck, he could. But it's not really his style.
Is the sax solo in One Year Of Love hard because they hired a sax player?
That's a bit different Niek, as none of the guys in Queen knew how to play the sax at all!
As for my point in each one`s abilities - As I said it`s my opinion, I`m not saying it`s a definitive truth or something, it`s the way I see it. Being the lead guitarist it`s easier for Brian to get noticed as a "master", because of the tons of songs with guitar solos, but it doesn`t mean the others are in a lower level.
As for GH`s post, you can insult me as much as you want, but I won`t insult you back. It`s not worth it.
As for Brian`s guitar "orchestras": I personaly don`t see them as orchestras, I see them as three-part choirs (ocasionally they went beyond that). They were creative, yes. But he wasn`t the first or the last or the best imo.
As for Innuendo: Brian himself admitted that he couldn`t do the stuff Steve played. But yeah, before someone says it, it could be that Brian was just being modest, whatever. I personally agree with him in that, and I think Steve is way beyond him in both acustic and electric.
As for GH`s post, you can insult me as much as you want, but I won`t insult you back. It`s not worth it.
As for Brian`s guitar "orchestras": I personaly don`t see them as orchestras, I see them as three-part choirs (ocasionally they went beyond that). They were creative, yes. But he wasn`t the first or the last or the best imo.
As for Innuendo: Brian himself admitted that he couldn`t do the stuff Steve played. But yeah, before someone says it, it could be that Brian was just being modest, whatever. I personally agree with him in that, and I think Steve is way beyond him in both acustic and electric.
"As for Brian`s guitar "orchestras": I personaly don`t see them as orchestras, I see them as three-part choirs (ocasionally they went beyond that). They were creative, yes. But he wasn`t the first or the last or the best imo"
Do explain who is first and the best. Plus, what do you mean by "the last?"
Peace,
Adam.
Do explain who is first and the best. Plus, what do you mean by "the last?"
Peace,
Adam.
Being the lead guitarist it`s easier for Brian to get noticed as a "master", because of the tons of songs with guitar solos, but it doesn`t mean the others are in a lower level.
Good point, but I think you're going to have a tough time convincing people that Freddie was really that good on piano.
LOML and Don't Stop Me Now vs Resurrection and Cyborg.
It's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, as they're completely different instruments. But I just think that Brian is the most musically talented member of Queen. The signs are all there.
As for Innuendo: Brian himself admitted that he couldn`t do the stuff Steve played. But yeah, before someone says it, it could be that Brian was just being modest, whatever. I personally agree with him in that, and I think Steve is way beyond him in both acustic and electric.
Definitely correct. Steve Howe is technically a much better player than Brian, and they both know it.
To say that Cyborg is Brian's best guitar work (along with Resurrection) is a load of crap. The song works well for the game and in it's form it's a good song but it's definitly not Brian's best. Not even close.
Why do people always assume that the "best" guitarsolo's are those which are the fastest?
Why do people always assume that the "best" guitarsolo's are those which are the fastest?
Why do people always assume that the "best" guitarsolo's are those which are the fastest?
I'm not saying they're his absolute best. What I'm saying is that it takes a great talent to be able to do the tapping technique in those songs with such precision, especially in Cyborg. But don't get me wrong... it's nothing like Joe Satriani's tapping skill, for example.
List your top 5 Brian moments then... it'll only diminish the pro-Fred argument here.... :)
Why do people always assume that the "best" guitarsolo's are those which are the fastest?
I'm not saying they're his absolute best. What I'm saying is that it takes a great talent to be able to do the tapping technique in those songs with such precision, especially in Cyborg. But don't get me wrong... it's nothing like Joe Satriani's tapping skill, for example.
List your top 5 Brian moments then... it'll only diminish the pro-Fred argument here.... :)
Well, you did say that before you edited your previous post. Never liked that editing function anyway.
But anyway, I know nothing about playing piano so I dunno whether Freddie is a decent or an excellent player ...uhm... of piano's.
What about his voice though? Is Freddie better at singing than Brian's at playing that out-of-shape fireplace? The voice is an instrument to, you know.
As for Fred at the piano - I`m not trying to convince anyone, I just expressed my opinion. Considering he did some very good stuff, rhythmically and technically (e.g. the intro of Lap Of The Gods). Of course he`s not Rick Wakeman, as much as Brian is not Steve Vai.
Guitar harmonies before Brian - Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, even the Beatles (Birthday, And Your Bird Can Sing), even though the last example is obviously simpler than Brian`s standards
"Best" guitar harmonies - Again that`s opinion. If you think Brian`s the best at that I totally respect it. But imo, there are/were some people better in that - Mick Ronson, Jimmy Page.
By "last" I meant that there were people doing guitar harmonies after Brian, for example Slash. Or the guys from Metallica
Guitar harmonies before Brian - Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, even the Beatles (Birthday, And Your Bird Can Sing), even though the last example is obviously simpler than Brian`s standards
"Best" guitar harmonies - Again that`s opinion. If you think Brian`s the best at that I totally respect it. But imo, there are/were some people better in that - Mick Ronson, Jimmy Page.
By "last" I meant that there were people doing guitar harmonies after Brian, for example Slash. Or the guys from Metallica