I still don't get grunge...
Maybe I'm an old fart who grew up with 80s hard rock and pop, and I got pissed off to see all of that coming to an end thanks to screaming non-sense lyrics and semi-psychadellic depressing melodies.
Nevertheless there was some good grunge on bands like Nirvana, and Stone Temple Pilots. I also enjoyed bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Alice In Chains that had a grunge sound with a very dark edge. I still don't get Pearl Jam or Soundgarden, they had some good songs but I still don't understand all the fuss around them.
However, by 1996 pretty much every single mainstream band was grunge and there were nothing but a bunch of crappy copycats like Bush, Hole, Sonic Youth and Silverchair. It was then it was time for grunge to die for once and for good.
Yet still I'd take grunge 20 times over nu-metal shit, or nu-punk garbage.
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Yet still I'd take grunge 20 times over nu-metal shit, or nu-punk garbage.
I think I'd go with 200 times over.
I'm a fan of Nirvana, I like them quite a bit. However, I do agree that they are overrated. Everything I read about Kurt Cobain makes him out to be Jesus. Was he talented and creative? Yes. Great? Yes. But I alwasy see these "transcended the face of music" and "changed the course of music history" "the biggest cultural revolution since The Beatles and Woodstock.." and no, it just wasn't...wasn't any of that. They left their mark on music history, but they didn't recreate music entirely.
By the way, Sonic Youth has been around since the early 80's. David Bowie has said that they "helped to shape and form much of the sound of the 80's.
By the way, Sonic Youth has been around since the early 80's. David Bowie has said that they "helped to shape and form much of the sound of the 80's.
Where is this from? I never knew he didn't like Modern woman. I know he didn't like Uptown Girl at one point because of his divorce, obviously, and he also got really tired of "Just the Way You Are" and swore never to play it again (but apparently got over that, because he has played it may times since). Never heard heard this, though...I like Modern Woman :(
http://billyjoel.8k.com/greatesthits3.htm and also here: http://www.turnstiles.org/articles/confess.html but I had to use Google's cache http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Uma_FwdOVvEJ:www.turnstiles.org/articles/confess.html as I couldn't get it to load today.
I'm a fan of Nirvana, I like them quite a bit. However, I do agree that they are overrated. Everything I read about Kurt Cobain makes him out to be Jesus. Was he talented and creative? Yes. Great? Yes. But I alwasy see these "transcended the face of music" and "changed the course of music history" "the biggest cultural revolution since The Beatles and Woodstock.." and no, it just wasn't...wasn't any of that. They left their mark on music history, but they didn't recreate music entirely.
First and foremost, I'd like to admit that Nirvana is a great band. No matter how much you like or dislike them or their style, nothing will change that.
Kurt Cobain? Talent? Definitely! But the thing that really gets me on the edge is when he makes lists of the "greatest" guitarists. He had about as much technical skill as Johnny Ramone, and he did about nothing for the instrument. Seeing the name Kurt Cobain on a "greatest guitarists" list is synonymous with seeing "stop reading now."
Does that deteriorate his value as a musician? No. His legacy to music will forever live on.
I don't mind Silverchair. Just now that Daniel Johns is performing with Paul Mac as The Dissociatives. Apparently.
And he marries Natalie Imbruglia.
And he marries Natalie Imbruglia.
Queen can say that Hot Space was unsuccessful but it still got to number 4 in the U.K. So Queen 'worst' work is still better than most bands. (apart from 3 others).
I'm a fan of Nirvana, I like them quite a bit. However, I do agree that they are overrated. Everything I read about Kurt Cobain makes him out to be Jesus. Was he talented and creative? Yes. Great? Yes. But I alwasy see these "transcended the face of music" and "changed the course of music history" "the biggest cultural revolution since The Beatles and Woodstock.." and no, it just wasn't...wasn't any of that. They left their mark on music history, but they didn't recreate music entirely.
By the way, Sonic Youth has been around since the early 80's. David Bowie has said that they "helped to shape and form much of the sound of the 80's.
David Bowie said that? Bowie??? I suddenly have a newfound respect for him.
And also, as I said earlier, Nevermind and the things it produced were the major contributing factors to Kurt Cobain's eventual suicide.
Brian Wilson was not satisfied with the way "California Girls" was recorded...he thought it was too fast. Also, on Pet Sounds, the last song (Caroline, No) features him on lead vocals, but their manager, his father, sped up the tape to make it sound better. Brian was upset by that also.