You can tell how good a band is by how they perform live. Live music is where it's at. If there's lip-synching throughout or enough haircare products to worsen the ozone hole, the band sucks. If the band thinks Clear Channel is a model of honest capitalism, lock n' load ;)
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I think Jingles is starting to look distiguished with all that gray hair around his temples.
Fogeys have always accused younguns of listening to noise rather than music.
Mind you, I still think "rap" starts with a silent "C". Eh sonny.
Fogeys have always accused younguns of listening to noise rather than music.
Mind you, I still think "rap" starts with a silent "C". Eh sonny.
I think music is in its ARC stage right now.
The problem -
You whippersnappers are getting old.
LOL
One more reason to be nice to new people and thus pass everything on ... augh, sounds like a freaking literary plea. Whatever.
Are you all debating music trends or multinational media conglomerate business practices? These *are* two different things.
There's also some rather narrow minded opinions in here as well (notably the comments on hip-hop).
There's also some rather narrow minded opinions in here as well (notably the comments on hip-hop).
There are lots and lots of good bands around these days. Indeed, listening to the radio doesn't convince one of this fact, but when you go out to a dedicated bar/club whatever, you'll hear plenty of good new songs. Also the internet helps quiet a bit. There are tons of stations that do play quality music. However, you have to search for it. It doesn't come to you just like that.
And as GH said, it's always been like that. However, with the internet nowadays the opportunities to listen to the music you like are bigger then ever.
And as GH said, it's always been like that. However, with the internet nowadays the opportunities to listen to the music you like are bigger then ever.
I heard about DREAM THEATER- checked that out and was blown away- you can't hear that in the radio, can you? Not in London anyway... Than I started to look for their interviews, checking the bands they were listening to, that influenced them (than I discovered Queensryche and Rush), than I started checking their solo collaborations and their COLLABORATORS... Because of TRANSATLANTIC where Mike Portnoy was involved I've heard about SPOCK'S BEARD and THE FLOWER KINGS... And so on, so on... There's plenty of good music out there- you just have to look for it; actually it's more satisfactory to find sth like that rather than turn on the radio and go for some commercial crap or an "artist" that everyone will forget in 3 years time...
Are you all debating music trends or multinational media conglomerate business practices? These *are* two different things.
There's also some rather narrow minded opinions in here as well (notably the comments on hip-hop).
Is this becoming a race issue?
The problem with rap/hip-hop is that it's all the same songs, the same videos, and I could undoubtedly say that 90% or hip-hop/rap is exactly the same crap.
I recall Prince talking on his Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame induction speech saying how black music has been destroyed and become an issue of image and turned into a money making machine instead of keeping the very essence of music.
Besides it was mainly black artists who created rock n' roll by creating a fussion of jazz and blues, genres which they created as well. They have also created other great genres such as soul, funk, and R&B.
People like Sean 'Puffy' Combs are nothing but an insult to all those multi-talented black artists who worked so hard to create great music. Comparing 'Bad Boy Records' to 'Motown' is just absolutely absurd.
The only hip-hop artists today that I have to applaud today for at least trying to be somehow different from other rappers are Outkast and Black Eyed Peas.
"Is this becoming a race issue?"
Not at all. You're just expressing your narrow minded opinion on an entire genre of music. It's no different than saying all jazz is the same set of compositions or all rock is the same set of chords.
You don't have to LIKE a genre to appreciate the skills and contributions it has broughten to the world of music. Rap, Rock, Jazz, Blues, they all have the same roots.
Your opinion of rap is fine...it's your opinion, but you seem to be basing it on the top 20 urban chart or something. EVERYTHING on the radio is crap, so to judge an entire genre based on that is simply being very narrow minded.
Not at all. You're just expressing your narrow minded opinion on an entire genre of music. It's no different than saying all jazz is the same set of compositions or all rock is the same set of chords.
You don't have to LIKE a genre to appreciate the skills and contributions it has broughten to the world of music. Rap, Rock, Jazz, Blues, they all have the same roots.
Your opinion of rap is fine...it's your opinion, but you seem to be basing it on the top 20 urban chart or something. EVERYTHING on the radio is crap, so to judge an entire genre based on that is simply being very narrow minded.
Oh...I suppose I should have read your entire post before replying ;o)
Yes, you definitely seem to be judging the whole of hip hop based on Outkast and Puff Daddy...hardly a comprehensive analysis. ;o)
I certainly understand the reaction to most radio hip-hop. I have the same reaction. I actually have the same reaction to pretty much all genres played on pop-40 radio...which seems as all that there is left these days on the airwaves.
Recent hip-hop that I've taken a shine to is Cee-lo. Some good stuff IMHO.
Yes, you definitely seem to be judging the whole of hip hop based on Outkast and Puff Daddy...hardly a comprehensive analysis. ;o)
I certainly understand the reaction to most radio hip-hop. I have the same reaction. I actually have the same reaction to pretty much all genres played on pop-40 radio...which seems as all that there is left these days on the airwaves.
Recent hip-hop that I've taken a shine to is Cee-lo. Some good stuff IMHO.
I heard about DREAM THEATER- checked that out and was blown away- you can't hear that in the radio, can you? Not in London anyway... Than I started to look for their interviews, checking the bands they were listening to, that influenced them (than I discovered Queensryche and Rush), than I started checking their solo collaborations and their COLLABORATORS... Because of TRANSATLANTIC where Mike Portnoy was involved I've heard about SPOCK'S BEARD and THE FLOWER KINGS... And so on, so on... There's plenty of good music out there- you just have to look for it; actually it's more satisfactory to find sth like that rather than turn on the radio and go for some commercial crap or an "artist" that everyone will forget in 3 years time...
That makes 2 of us!
Dream theater + is waaaayyyyy better then Queen +
Working with other artists is not necessarily a bad thing, you just have to pick the right artist.
And yes, I know about Queen + Bowie, but that is the exception to the rule that Queen (or Brian) always pick the wrong ones
That makes 2 of us!
Three now!
There's also some rather narrow minded opinions in here as well (notably the comments on hip-hop).
Yeah, Jingles had a pretty good post there, but he was describing just the commercial side. Indeed it is a horrible message all around... the language, the womanizing, etc etc.
But there is definitely much underground rap and hip-hop music that doesn't fit that description. I'm still not a fan of the genre, but I definitely respect that there are rap artists out there who are trying to portray positive messages.
Well, there will never be another F.M for sure or anyone close.