So what if Saddam Hussein did not have WMDs?
Neither did Osama bin Laden.
What Hussein DID have was time and power.
So did Osama bin Laden.
When people start talking about how Bush "doesn't care about terrorism", remember: one of those planes was headed for the White House.
Did the U.N. have a plane headed for it?
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Anyone who thinks that Bush is doing right choices when it comes to terrorism should read the '9/11 Comission Report' or Richard Clarke's 'Against All Enemies'. Which I need to mention that Richard Clarke is not a liberal or a democrat trying to bring Bush down for political purposes, but by exposing true facts without taking sides on the political spectrum.
After that, tell me if you still believe that Bush is our brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic commander in chief.
Anyone who thinks that Bush is doing right choices when it comes to terrorism should read the '9/11 Comission Report' or Richard Clarke's 'Against All Enemies'. Which I need to mention that Richard Clarke is not a liberal or a democrat trying to bring Bush down for political purposes, but by exposing true facts without taking sides on the political spectrum.
After that, tell me if you still believe that Bush is our brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic commander in chief.
I dont this board is equiped to handle political conversations. Everytime we do it every one just bitches at each other.
Sour grapes plus $$$ for a book deal ...
http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110004893
"After that, tell me if you still believe that Bush is our brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic commander in chief."
Where in the 9/11 Commission report should I read to draw your brilliant conclusion?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110004893
"After that, tell me if you still believe that Bush is our brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic commander in chief."
Where in the 9/11 Commission report should I read to draw your brilliant conclusion?
Prepare for a long long long fuckin' thread.
Anyone who thinks that Bush is doing right choices when it comes to terrorism should read the '9/11 Comission Report' or Richard Clarke's 'Against All Enemies'. Which I need to mention that Richard Clarke is not a liberal or a democrat trying to bring Bush down for political purposes, but by exposing true facts without taking sides on the political spectrum.
After that, tell me if you still believe that Bush is our brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic commander in chief.
And you think that Clinton was doing a better job?
I agree that Bush was not doing all he could prior to 9/11: had he gotten off his ass and done what he is doing now in Iraq and had taken the Taliban out of power, there is a good chance 9/11 would have not happened.
HOWEVER, you seem to find no problem lambasting Bush's decisions both then and now - you sarcastically talk about Bush not being "brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic", well what the fuck would you prefer him to do? Do YOU have any brillant suggestions for him? If not, stop spouting rhetoric, get your head out of your ass and think about something for once in your life.
I dont this board is equiped to handle political conversations. Everytime we do it every one just bitches at each other.
Word.
"...what the fuck would you prefer him to do? Do YOU have any brillant suggestions for him? If not, stop spouting rhetoric, get your head out of your ass and think about something for once in your life"
Maybe you should've called this thread "Some thoughts on Iraq I don't want anyone to disagree with or I'll start ranting and swearing like an idiot"
Maybe you should've called this thread "Some thoughts on Iraq I don't want anyone to disagree with or I'll start ranting and swearing like an idiot"
HOWEVER, you seem to find no problem lambasting Bush's decisions both then and now - you sarcastically talk about Bush not being "brave, encouraging, determined, and patriotic", well what the fuck would you prefer him to do? Do YOU have any brillant suggestions for him? If not, stop spouting rhetoric, get your head out of your ass and think about something for once in your life.
Cool it down, dude. I respect your position for not liking Clinton, and like most presidents he did wrong decisions (which I believe were few compared to other presidents), but even if he did a lot of mistakes does that make Bush a saint?
Suggestions are too many to mention, and they're basically the same ones that everyone talks about...
- Raising taxes for the wealthy to cope with the deficit instead of making it worse by giving tax cuts to even those who DON'T NEED THEM.
- International environmental policies that the Bush administration hasn't worried about because they think that things like global warming are just NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
- And of course... http://www.costofwar.com/ ...we all know that there are far better things to do with all this tax payers money for something other than killing.
Anyways, I really can't blame Bush because you have all these people saying things like 'Bush is Evil' or 'Bush is Nazi', and I truly believe that Bush is not the one to blame here. Obviously the guy is not very brilliant, but that's mainly because he's a puppet of Dick Cheney and all those bastards who want to brainwash America by selling them fear. How could you expect people not being dissapointed about this administration when corporate greedy bastards from Halliburton are running the nation for their own benefit?
FreddiesGhettoTrench, did you even read what you typed? Did the lack of any actual logic connecting the dots bother you?
The reality is that Iraq has nothing to do with the planes crashing into the US. In fact, there are more ties to the US with Saddam, and more ties to the Bush clan with the Saudi's than there are between Iraq and either country.
But, alas, american voters don't seem too concerned with logic these days. I'm worried.
"And you think that Clinton was doing a better job?"
What does that have to do with anything?
": had he gotten off his ass and done what he is doing now in Iraq and had taken the Taliban out of power"
And what would him attacking Iraq have done to prevent 9/11?
"Do YOU have any brillant suggestions for him?"
Yes. Admit to his misdeeds. Pull out of Iraq and start addressing the root issues of terrorism. You simply can not fight a war against it. Many countries have already learned this lesson.
Also, throw out the bible thumping, stop the gay bashing, start funding real education iniatives, actually come up with a solution to the health care problem, resolve the free trade issues, stop with the tax breaks to those that don't need it, and for christ's sake, LEARN TO SPEAK IN FULL SENTENCES.
"If not, stop spouting rhetoric, get your head out of your ass and think about something for once in your life."
Ouch. That's some thick irony.
The reality is that Iraq has nothing to do with the planes crashing into the US. In fact, there are more ties to the US with Saddam, and more ties to the Bush clan with the Saudi's than there are between Iraq and either country.
But, alas, american voters don't seem too concerned with logic these days. I'm worried.
"And you think that Clinton was doing a better job?"
What does that have to do with anything?
": had he gotten off his ass and done what he is doing now in Iraq and had taken the Taliban out of power"
And what would him attacking Iraq have done to prevent 9/11?
"Do YOU have any brillant suggestions for him?"
Yes. Admit to his misdeeds. Pull out of Iraq and start addressing the root issues of terrorism. You simply can not fight a war against it. Many countries have already learned this lesson.
Also, throw out the bible thumping, stop the gay bashing, start funding real education iniatives, actually come up with a solution to the health care problem, resolve the free trade issues, stop with the tax breaks to those that don't need it, and for christ's sake, LEARN TO SPEAK IN FULL SENTENCES.
"If not, stop spouting rhetoric, get your head out of your ass and think about something for once in your life."
Ouch. That's some thick irony.
"Pull out of Iraq"
Brilliant idea - reward Saddam's cronies, the religious lunatics and the Al Qaeda beheading terrorists.
Holly always treats everyone with respect. LOL
Brilliant idea - reward Saddam's cronies, the religious lunatics and the Al Qaeda beheading terrorists.
Holly always treats everyone with respect. LOL
And Jingles is allowed to start the swearing I see, FGT is not allowed to respond in kind? Pot Kettle ...
I said it's going to be a long fuckin' thread.
Was I offending anyone?
Was I offending anyone?
"...what the fuck would you prefer him to do? Do YOU have any brillant suggestions for him? If not, stop spouting rhetoric, get your head out of your ass and think about something for once in your life"
Maybe you should've called this thread "Some thoughts on Iraq I don't want anyone to disagree with or I'll start ranting and swearing like an idiot"
Oh, get off it. Like you don't throw a hissy fit every time someone disagrees with your views. I've seen it - dare anyone say something that compromises your point of you, you fly off the handle!
Cool it down, dude. I respect your position for not liking Clinton, and like most presidents he did wrong decisions (which I believe were few compared to other presidents), but even if he did a lot of mistakes does that make Bush a saint?
Where did I say Bush was a saint? I said he's doing the right thing now by taking a brutal, bloodthirsty dictator out of power.
And I'll reply to the rest of this tomorrow because I need to go...
I said it's going to be a long fuckin' thread.
Was I offending anyone?
How can I be offended by wisdomless youth that is still wet behind the ears. When you hit thirty maybe you will wise up and become Republican.