I think Radio Ga Ga has lots of delay. In the bridges too. But that must be intentional
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what about the lyrics?
Hi!
Yes there are several little mistakes, but keep in mind that they usually did not use a metronome in the early years (maybe until around 1980), so there are more little "mistakes" on the first albums - later on I believe they used more synths, more drum programs, more delay and reverb effects, and they had the possibility to quantize the MIDI tracks, and the usage of digital technique.
(IMHO the 1974-1980 tracks are better produced, they have a richer sound, and sound more human and have more fantasy: did you notice that in "Leroy Brown" Roger used 2 different snares? Nowadays they would click twice on the "Generate Drumroll Snare#47" button ;-) )
Yes there are several little mistakes, but keep in mind that they usually did not use a metronome in the early years (maybe until around 1980), so there are more little "mistakes" on the first albums - later on I believe they used more synths, more drum programs, more delay and reverb effects, and they had the possibility to quantize the MIDI tracks, and the usage of digital technique.
(IMHO the 1974-1980 tracks are better produced, they have a richer sound, and sound more human and have more fantasy: did you notice that in "Leroy Brown" Roger used 2 different snares? Nowadays they would click twice on the "Generate Drumroll Snare#47" button ;-) )
Hi!
Yes there are several little mistakes, but keep in mind that they usually did not use a metronome in the early years (maybe until around 1980), so there are more little "mistakes" on the first albums - later on I believe they used more synths, more drum programs, more delay and reverb effects, and they had the possibility to quantize the MIDI tracks, and the usage of digital technique.
(IMHO the 1974-1980 tracks are better produced, they have a richer sound, and sound more human and have more fantasy: did you notice that in "Leroy Brown" Roger used 2 different snares? Nowadays they would click twice on the "Generate Drumroll Snare#47" button ;-) )
Very good point, Juls... This is the reason for which we would probably listen to such fascinating background guitar harmonies never again (now you've got synths... Why would you need to do them?)... Agree with you about the freshness and the unique flavour of the '70s production too...
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Albyboy
Albyboy,
the problem is, that nowadays the music industry is more business than ever. It is easier to produce something for the masses, which is quite simple in a way, than sitting down and to record f.e. The Millionaire Waltz solo. Of course it has to do with the production costs too, I think.
But as long as there are people like us, queen fans, who can differ quality from quantity, I wonder why Queen productions sometimes are made a bit "cheaper" (see Hot Space, The Miracle f.e. IMO)
For me, it is enjoyable to listen to the delicate BHM soli in the mid 70s, the nice piano work on the first 6-7 albums, the mellow, tight and melodic bass lines played on a Fender Prec and the powerful, tight drums until The Game.
For others maybe Queen is a pop band, and for Pop music you need synths, drum computers, a quite flat sound, catchy tunes - in fact Queen has something for everyone, but it does not mean, that every album is beloved by everyone.
On the other hand I can't imagine Queen in the late 80s recording songs like The March of the Black Queen or My Fary King. Maybe in *this* case doing business is more important...
the problem is, that nowadays the music industry is more business than ever. It is easier to produce something for the masses, which is quite simple in a way, than sitting down and to record f.e. The Millionaire Waltz solo. Of course it has to do with the production costs too, I think.
But as long as there are people like us, queen fans, who can differ quality from quantity, I wonder why Queen productions sometimes are made a bit "cheaper" (see Hot Space, The Miracle f.e. IMO)
For me, it is enjoyable to listen to the delicate BHM soli in the mid 70s, the nice piano work on the first 6-7 albums, the mellow, tight and melodic bass lines played on a Fender Prec and the powerful, tight drums until The Game.
For others maybe Queen is a pop band, and for Pop music you need synths, drum computers, a quite flat sound, catchy tunes - in fact Queen has something for everyone, but it does not mean, that every album is beloved by everyone.
On the other hand I can't imagine Queen in the late 80s recording songs like The March of the Black Queen or My Fary King. Maybe in *this* case doing business is more important...
Still I think they learnt from their synth era and at the end of Fred`s life they (and especially him) were doing a great job of combining keyboards and samplers and computers with guitar, drums and bass rock: Innuendo, Was It All Worth It, Bijou, The Hitman. That`s the beauty of music: can you put acoustic guitars in a heavy metal song? can you put accordeon in a symphonic piece? can you add electric guitar to a tango? For all of that the answer is: yes, as long as you do it well. And Queen were one of those (not the only) band who showed that there are no limitations. You don`t have to make a song acoustic, or metal, or punk, you can combine them, or make each song unique and sui generis.
Some songs (like Headlong) were much better synth-free and they did them that way, which is fine too. Piano wasn`t as important as in early seventies. Still, Robbie Valentine did a beautiful Bijou version with piano which made me picture how would it have sounded if instead of the strings (which anyway sound beautiful) Fred had backed the guitar solo with some Bechstein Debauchery. It would have been great
Some songs (like Headlong) were much better synth-free and they did them that way, which is fine too. Piano wasn`t as important as in early seventies. Still, Robbie Valentine did a beautiful Bijou version with piano which made me picture how would it have sounded if instead of the strings (which anyway sound beautiful) Fred had backed the guitar solo with some Bechstein Debauchery. It would have been great
PTG guitar mistake is one of my favourites. Another Brian glitch from that album is at the end of Sail Away Sweet Sister, in the final 'you' (just before the 'Oh boy!' - ???) - it is overdubbed ...badly.
in radio gaga:
when it's the "all we here is radio gaga..."
roger's voice seems to be continuing after freddie & co.
Yah, his vibratto continues for a bit after Fred and Bri, which is bit awkward in the song. Meh.
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The high galliao's on bo rhap (sung by roger) were not orginaly supposed to held out that long. and freddies vocals in the heavy section on the verse "leave me to die" were not supposed to be disanated but be in unison. When he double tracked him self he added it at the last minute.
not related to queen but to ozzy on blizzard. In Crazy train the part where ozzy goes "all aboard ha ha ha" is really a delay. you can barely here the initial speaking but its there.
crazy train? bah -- it's about gay sex.
can we stay on topic here?
can we stay on topic here?
That thing about Roger's drum tracks missing on Hot Space, Side 1... is that really a mistake or was it intentional?
Nah, I was kidding! Many people here would have preferred real drums as opposed to the drum machines.
I've always wondred that sound at the beginning of Fat Bottomed Girls, at around 0:05 or 0:06, sounds like snapping fingers once. Is that intentional or not?
I don't hear such thing at the beginning ..
you mean when they sing the line 'oohh .. you gonna take me home tonight..', I suppose?
you mean when they sing the line 'oohh .. you gonna take me home tonight..', I suppose?