There is no doubt that The Beatles are the greatest bloody band that ever existed. They took Rock&Roll, mixed it with other influences and invented a whole new type of music!
Queen would not have existed without The Beatles. It's fairly obvious that Freddies voice was better than that of Paul and John. Also, when you look at the technical skills regarding their instruments Queen was higher evolved than the Beatles. But I don't think those are the defining qualities.
(Steve Vai is probably the best technical guitar player in the world today, but his music is too strange to please the majority of the people. So, although he's the best techically, he'll never be the greatest guitarist ever.)
The Beatles had such an impact and were greatly innovative (Sgt. Pepper album, Here comes the sun). Didn't they also help build the 8/16-track recording? I feel they earned the right of being the all-time King of music.
Queen was a great band. They did some really interesting and groundbreaking work (Brighton Rock for example). Queens music is more complex, but that's simple evolution. Evolution didn't stop with Queen. MUSE might have pushed it to another level in 1999.
Personally I like Queens music probably better than that of The Beatles. As I said, it's more complex so you hear new things every time you listen to it. So I'd say that queen earned the right to be the all-time Queen of music. =)
As Sir GH put it: "The Beatles changed the world."
P.S. Elton John doesn't write songs. He steals his melodies from Mozart.
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There is no doubt that The Beatles are the greatest bloody band that ever existed.
Err, I actually think there is :)...
Queen would not have existed without The Beatles.
Well, many people agree with you, but the truth is you can't say that Queen wouldn't have existed without the Beatles. They wouldn't have made the same music (that's for sure), but, if they had formed a band, they would have made some awesome music... Maybe not glam, hard rock or anything, but their talents would still have done them justice. So Queen may have existed without The Beatles, only different, but no less fine...
Yes, but you have to ask yourself "Would those bands even exist(or if they would, would they be any good?) if it hadn't been for the Beatles?" I doubt it.
I'm not choosing. The Beatles invented it and Queen perfected it.
Without Bach, Vivaldi and Haydn, Beethoven wouldn't have written his awesome symphonies. Still Beethoven is greater than Bach, Vivaldi or Bach... And QUEEN are greatest band ever.
Just to add one thing- The Beatles as a band grew and changed so much over their 10 years. Their early stuff was simple, catchy boy band material. Then George's sitar music, and John's psychedelia gave birth to Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. The White Album, I always see as not so much the Beatles as a band. More that each song is "Paul and the band" or "John and the band", etc., etc. A seperation of Lennon/McCartney. They took another direction with Abbey Road, which is IMO, their best album. Queen reached into a ton of different genres, too, not to such an extent, I think, but it was the Beatles' concept.
Couldn't agree more, LOML...
the beatles (my second favourite band) lead the way on innovation - look what they did with only four track-recording!
look at the way they pioneered the early synths (mellatrons?) and cut up endless tapeloops - the stuff they did from 66-70 forged a brand new path for popular music and bands like queen (who will always be my favourite) picked up the torch and ran with it
and whoever cited elton john as a great songwriter - forget it! he writes great music - but he doesn't do lyrics - in fact the only lyrics he actually wrote up to 1982 were perhaps his worst - see Little Jeannie - elton's lyricist Bernie taupin did most of the hard work
look at the way they pioneered the early synths (mellatrons?) and cut up endless tapeloops - the stuff they did from 66-70 forged a brand new path for popular music and bands like queen (who will always be my favourite) picked up the torch and ran with it
and whoever cited elton john as a great songwriter - forget it! he writes great music - but he doesn't do lyrics - in fact the only lyrics he actually wrote up to 1982 were perhaps his worst - see Little Jeannie - elton's lyricist Bernie taupin did most of the hard work
Queen ofcourse,i don't like the Beatles!!..But i love Queen!!!
Its totally Queen..no boubt about that!!!;D
-Hildur Helga-
Its totally Queen..no boubt about that!!!;D
-Hildur Helga-
Hangman and his friend said it best. The Beatles were great. But it goes
1. Queen
2. Led Zeppelin
3. The Beatles
4. The Rolling Stones
...and thats fact!
1. Queen
2. Led Zeppelin
3. The Beatles
4. The Rolling Stones
...and thats fact!
I don`t really like The Beatles material, but I respect their talent and influence to the world of music. However Queen mastered their tracks to absolute perfection and I adore them, I always will.
Damnit - I`m on the QUEENzone message board! So my answer is Queen!
Damnit - I`m on the QUEENzone message board! So my answer is Queen!
Roger and Brian don't even consider thmselves to be better than the Beatles. But well done QUEEN FANS yes QUEEN FANS...some ppl just havnt heard those words on here
Queen were better musicians, singers, producers and arrangers than the Beatles.
I'll agree with all of those points with the exception of "producers". We must keep in mind that the technology in the 60s was much inferior to the 70s. Stereo came out only in 1965. Considering what George Martin and The Beatles had to work with, their later material is incredible.
Sure I liked a few of their songs but most of them sound the same
Ignorance to the Nth degree. No two Beatles songs sound even remotely alike.
Talent: Queen > Beatles - OPINION
Songs: Queen > Beatles - OPINION
Longevity & Resilience (are their songs listenable over time): Queen > Beatles - OPINION
Opinions, not facts.
Of course Queen had superior talent over everybody.
Oh boy... folks, where do I begin with this one?
thanks Sir GH for agreeing with my point.
without the beatles - and all they did with fourtracks - read that again people! four tracks - no the 24 that queen had to work with
there would be no queen
the beatles work from rubber soul/revolver/sgt pepper/white album/abbey rd blazed a trail for future band to expand on and their expeirmentation with the mellatron and tape loops encouraged later bands to try stuff
ffs - even oasis's "be here now" is like listening to revolver thru again
yes queen are great - and will always be my no1 band - but the beatles were/are the greatest band ever, our prblem is objectivity ...and let's face it -the overwhelming defence of our band would be mirrored perfectly by our beatles couterparts on their forum
without the beatles - and all they did with fourtracks - read that again people! four tracks - no the 24 that queen had to work with
there would be no queen
the beatles work from rubber soul/revolver/sgt pepper/white album/abbey rd blazed a trail for future band to expand on and their expeirmentation with the mellatron and tape loops encouraged later bands to try stuff
ffs - even oasis's "be here now" is like listening to revolver thru again
yes queen are great - and will always be my no1 band - but the beatles were/are the greatest band ever, our prblem is objectivity ...and let's face it -the overwhelming defence of our band would be mirrored perfectly by our beatles couterparts on their forum
You're totally right Brenski.
If you'd ask ALL people in the world about the biggest band ever, I bet The Beatles would be no. 1. Probably with... say... 80% of the votes?
If you'd ask ALL people in the world about the biggest band ever, I bet The Beatles would be no. 1. Probably with... say... 80% of the votes?
Queen really picked up the baton were the Beetles ended.
Out of the two bands I prefer Queen because of there live performances and of course Bohemian Rhapsody, which really is the crown jewels of all there early work.
My opinion isn’t help by old Macca’s actions over the last few years as he is really acted like an A** H**e with regards to crediting of songs. By the way Paul, as the song goes “only the GOOD die young”, which must mean your shit!
Out of the two bands I prefer Queen because of there live performances and of course Bohemian Rhapsody, which really is the crown jewels of all there early work.
My opinion isn’t help by old Macca’s actions over the last few years as he is really acted like an A** H**e with regards to crediting of songs. By the way Paul, as the song goes “only the GOOD die young”, which must mean your shit!
In answer to this rather complex question I shall have to say Queen. They've become very important to me, seeing me through some very rough times in my life. So for me, greatest band ever: Queen (I am slightly obligated to pick them as I am the mistress of mercury for cryin' out loud :)
Love,
The Mistress
Love,
The Mistress
What I meant to say Bob, is that the four entities of Queen were better producers than the four entities of the Beatles. I believe that Brian, Freddie, Roger and John contributed more to a "Queen" sound, than George, John, Paul and Ringo did a "Beatles" sound. I think George Marin was the genius behind the Beatles sound, where Roy Thomas Baker was more a collaborator after Queen II. Hard to define "better" anyhow.
What I meant to say Bob, is that the four entities of Queen were better producers than the four entities of the Beatles. I believe that Brian, Freddie, Roger and John contributed more to a "Queen" sound, than George, John, Paul and Ringo did a "Beatles" sound. I think George Marin was the genius behind the Beatles sound, where Roy Thomas Baker was more a collaborator after Queen II. Hard to define "better" anyhow.
Okay, there I agree. :) How'd you know my first name? Have we acquainted?