I dont give a rats ass whether the US likes Queen or not. There are tons of brilliant bands that never make it anywhere that always get overlooked so I reckon Queen did pretty damn well.
Also people fail to take into consideration that gay hating was in its prime in the 80s especially in ignorant, backwards minded america. So of course Queen is going to ignored in favour of less talented completely straight rock bands.
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You UK folks could not sellout 2 dumps in that shit hole Ireland so stop giving shots to USA.
Why would UK folk go the Irish show(s), when they had half dozen shows in their own country?
And just to confuse you with statistics... Out of 5 million Irish people, approx. one in thousand went to see QPR. The same percentage of Americans would be around 280,000.
Overlooked?
R.E.M. s recent albom debuted at number 12 and it still not certified so if queen can debute at number 54 and still get certificed that's vary good for a 70s rock band.
R.E.M. s recent albom debuted at number 12 and it still not certified so if queen can debute at number 54 and still get certificed that's vary good for a 70s rock band.
I dont give a rats ass whether the US likes Queen or not. There are tons of brilliant bands that never make it anywhere that always get overlooked so I reckon Queen did pretty damn well.
Also people fail to take into consideration that gay hating was in its prime in the 80s especially in ignorant, backwards minded america. So of course Queen is going to ignored in favour of less talented completely straight rock bands.
What about Boy George? He was big in the states.
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R.E.M. s recent albom debuted at number 12 and it still not certified so if queen can debute at number 54 and still get certificed that's vary good for a 70s rock band.
What do you mean by 'certified'?
As an American let me just say this, don't ever use popularity in the USA as a barometer for how good a band is. In just about every category of music, American taste is awful, just awful. The most popular musical style here is Rap/R&B, which is simply shit. Other popular music is crap like Birtney Spears and Hilary Duff, people who have NO talent and almost no involvment in the making and production of the actual music. And if you think you can find an escape from this garbage in rock and roll, I'm sorry to tell you that it's just not going to happen. There is almost ZERO originally in rock anymore. Green Day (they're not bad just vastly overrated, and I personally have a grudge against them for their butchering of WATC at Live 8), Taking Back Sunday, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte...ugh, do I have to go on. They may not be awful, but compare them to what I grew up on...Queen, U2, Floyd, Led Zep...it's not even close. Then you got underground, which is a bunch of talentless emo/screamo bands that serve as merely an escape for the depressed teens of America.
It's really sad anymore, though there are some bands that come along, try their own thing and really do something great. Coheed and Cambria, a little to punkish for my tastes at times, but you got to admire their concept and originality. "Welcome Home" by Coheed is an incredible song. is Jet, great sound. Foo Fighters, Goo Dolls, another couple good ones. If you want to find good music coming out of America though, your gonna have to look and swim through a sea of crap to find it.
I think England still holds the crown and rock haven of the world. I especially love The Darkness. They really have to get another album out. Permission to Land, IMO, is the best album to be released by ANYBODY since...well...a long damn time. If you haven't listened (I'm sure most of you have) please do. That band just flat out ROCKS.
It's really sad anymore, though there are some bands that come along, try their own thing and really do something great. Coheed and Cambria, a little to punkish for my tastes at times, but you got to admire their concept and originality. "Welcome Home" by Coheed is an incredible song. is Jet, great sound. Foo Fighters, Goo Dolls, another couple good ones. If you want to find good music coming out of America though, your gonna have to look and swim through a sea of crap to find it.
I think England still holds the crown and rock haven of the world. I especially love The Darkness. They really have to get another album out. Permission to Land, IMO, is the best album to be released by ANYBODY since...well...a long damn time. If you haven't listened (I'm sure most of you have) please do. That band just flat out ROCKS.
Its very interesting to hear about "Made in heaven"success/ lack of, being discussed. Here in Australia there has always been a strong following of Queen, they have been my fav band since 1992 when I was 15, I just couldnt get enough of them when I first heard of them, I couldn't compare them to anyone else, everyone at High School was into Metallica, Gun's n Roses and Nirvana.
Australia and America are considered very alike, however in regards to Queen, for some reason the popularity is very different.
Queen has never had a down period here from 1974 to the present, and yet they only did two major tours here, 1976 and 1985, (any Aussie's reading this, discount the Sunbury shows in 1974, means fuck nothing) I too have read numerous readings on Queen's downfall in the USA, and to me, even as as Australian, I do take into a bands success by what they achieved in the USA, compared to the rest of the world, Queen made it big in the USA from 1976-1980, then fell away for many different reasons. Queen were more of an international band, and Roger has even said they had become so big elsewhere, they kinda forgot about America, thats coming from him.
SOngs like "I want to break free" was a flop in the States, but number 1 here, and Radio Ga Ga was top 5 here as well. "I want it All" " One Vision" and "Kind of Magic" were top 10 hits here too. They were considered tough/macho songs here, ...obviously the States thought otherwise.
I thinks what didnt help Queen's cause in the mid to late 1980's in the States was that Queen probably sounded too Euro, I have read this being said before, Euro music then was very synth sounding, however its a shame that Queen did dissapate in the States from 1982 onwards (last USA tour) I think has Queen taken the Magic tour there in 85/86, word would of got around and they would have grabbed some great attention for there shows, even though they may have not been abl to play places like Madison Square Garden or the Forum.
Well this is just my perspective anyway, im not trying to make a point, just wanted to have some input into this interesting topic. By the way Made in Heaven was an ok album, its been 10 years since its release (top 10 here in 1995)
Australia and America are considered very alike, however in regards to Queen, for some reason the popularity is very different.
Queen has never had a down period here from 1974 to the present, and yet they only did two major tours here, 1976 and 1985, (any Aussie's reading this, discount the Sunbury shows in 1974, means fuck nothing) I too have read numerous readings on Queen's downfall in the USA, and to me, even as as Australian, I do take into a bands success by what they achieved in the USA, compared to the rest of the world, Queen made it big in the USA from 1976-1980, then fell away for many different reasons. Queen were more of an international band, and Roger has even said they had become so big elsewhere, they kinda forgot about America, thats coming from him.
SOngs like "I want to break free" was a flop in the States, but number 1 here, and Radio Ga Ga was top 5 here as well. "I want it All" " One Vision" and "Kind of Magic" were top 10 hits here too. They were considered tough/macho songs here, ...obviously the States thought otherwise.
I thinks what didnt help Queen's cause in the mid to late 1980's in the States was that Queen probably sounded too Euro, I have read this being said before, Euro music then was very synth sounding, however its a shame that Queen did dissapate in the States from 1982 onwards (last USA tour) I think has Queen taken the Magic tour there in 85/86, word would of got around and they would have grabbed some great attention for there shows, even though they may have not been abl to play places like Madison Square Garden or the Forum.
Well this is just my perspective anyway, im not trying to make a point, just wanted to have some input into this interesting topic. By the way Made in Heaven was an ok album, its been 10 years since its release (top 10 here in 1995)
Certified
500 000 or more sales.
500 000 or more sales.
ive read all the posts and i think everyone is missing the point. the charts anywhere in the world isnt about how good the music is, its how good your marketing is and whether it fits into the mtv demographic. if it was all about the music the charts would be very very different. unfortunately there time had come and gone. nothing to do with the quality of their music at all, just their time had passed. david bowie, rolling stones, living legends but cant buy a hit. doesnt mean that they arent hugely respected by their peers though, and getting a no1 hit single doesnt validate how good your music is either. Eventually there comes a time when its over.
Excellent point g2000. Queen had their time as all time legends making some of the greatest music the worl has ever seen. That didn't last their entire career, and they did a better job than any band in diversifying. Unfortunately, in the eyes of North America, Abe hit the nail on the head when he correctly stated that mid to late 1980's Queen probably sounded too Euro. North America likes guitar rock and is a fragmented marketplace. Pop Queen did well with the broader public (single success of CLTCL & AOBTD) but they lost the rock audience. Queen fans can't accept that they are different in North America and Europe. Legends in both places, but Queen were effectively done as a force after 1980 in North America. They had a nice five year run and were pretty much an afterthought until Freddie's death. Their smooth keyboard based stuff didn't catch on well here.