eggy
P.S. Lisser something like that would be grand.
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Benn
Nowhere's too small for a rock show IMO. I absolutely hate and detest stadiums and arenas because, even if you're at the front, you're too far removed from the band - the barriers are at least 6 feet from the stage and the stage itself is usually too high.
At a club or ballroom, the stage is no more than three feet above the floor and you can see the band as real people rather than ants in the distance. You also get a true feeling for the music through the floor rather than rely on TV screens and delay towers.
At a club or ballroom, the stage is no more than three feet above the floor and you can see the band as real people rather than ants in the distance. You also get a true feeling for the music through the floor rather than rely on TV screens and delay towers.
eggy
True, but a band the size of Queen, is not going to play a 1500-2000 capacity venue or smaller than that.
Benn
Why not? What *size* is Queen then? Just because they played stadiums in the past doesn't mean that they can't down-size.
Iron Maiden did it, The Who played Watford Colliseum in 2002 for 1100 people. The stones played The Astoria last year and that's only about 1300 capacity. All sorts of bands do it, because it gets them closer to their audience - why do you think Brian played places like record stores to promote Another World?
Iron Maiden did it, The Who played Watford Colliseum in 2002 for 1100 people. The stones played The Astoria last year and that's only about 1300 capacity. All sorts of bands do it, because it gets them closer to their audience - why do you think Brian played places like record stores to promote Another World?
The Mir@cle
You're right Benn, Toto played in even smaller venues (<1000). And those concerts were great.
eggy
This is a comeback tour, not a back to basics tour.
The venues will be 7500 - 20000 venues.
Brixton is the "thank you" to the fans/mugs. They won't play places half the size of that.
The venues will be 7500 - 20000 venues.
Brixton is the "thank you" to the fans/mugs. They won't play places half the size of that.
Benn
> They won't play places half the size of that.
But, and this may really shock you, THEY ARE, aren't they.
It would lead me to think that because The Stones had such great success with that formula last year, Queen may try to follow suit - it gave The Stones the opportunity to change the set list around featuring material that suited different kinds of venue. More intimate / rarer material at the more intimate / rarer venues and the crowd pleasers at the venues where people were *less likely* to demand the rare stuff.
But, and this may really shock you, THEY ARE, aren't they.
It would lead me to think that because The Stones had such great success with that formula last year, Queen may try to follow suit - it gave The Stones the opportunity to change the set list around featuring material that suited different kinds of venue. More intimate / rarer material at the more intimate / rarer venues and the crowd pleasers at the venues where people were *less likely* to demand the rare stuff.
eggy
If they play the Astoria or Shephard's Bush / Islington Academy I would be willing to turn up starkers!!
It won't happen in London. Why would they want to sell out 1500 capacity place when they could do 15000 on a first gig back in the country they come from.
Playing smaller venues over here (apart from a fan club only gig which Brixton passes as) to me would say to the neautral fan that Queen have kind of lost it.
Maybe where their fan base is smaller they would go for smaller places, but not here and not as small as Shepherds Bush - there would be a riot.
It won't happen in London. Why would they want to sell out 1500 capacity place when they could do 15000 on a first gig back in the country they come from.
Playing smaller venues over here (apart from a fan club only gig which Brixton passes as) to me would say to the neautral fan that Queen have kind of lost it.
Maybe where their fan base is smaller they would go for smaller places, but not here and not as small as Shepherds Bush - there would be a riot.
Benn
You obviously have no idea why the BAND THEMSELVES would prefer to play in a more intimate setting then........ The problem with the "stadium rock" thing is that the players have little sense of the audience, because so many of them are so far away.
Let's see how the tour pans out - my money's on a number of small venues as they travel.
Let's see how the tour pans out - my money's on a number of small venues as they travel.
Penetration_Guru
I have an idea about Brixton, and the reasons for a high price/fan only/ fairly intimate venue.
If it comes off, I will claim to have foreseen it. If it does not, I will admit it.
But I'm not telling yet.
If it comes off, I will claim to have foreseen it. If it does not, I will admit it.
But I'm not telling yet.
Deacons 1st Choice
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
Well i look forward to finally hearing from you mate!
Well i look forward to finally hearing from you mate!
eggy
That's not very sporting PG.
And Benn, you obviously seem blind to the fact of business logic. Bands play venues 98% of the time to a supply demand basis. Queen have demand to fill higher venues of 1500. So business behind the band will mean they will play larger venues.
Why earn £10,000 from a gig when you earn £100,000 from playing Earls Court. Fans can get close enough there, its just a shit venue.
Brixton is the intimate thank you to the fans, they have no need to do any more.
And Benn, you obviously seem blind to the fact of business logic. Bands play venues 98% of the time to a supply demand basis. Queen have demand to fill higher venues of 1500. So business behind the band will mean they will play larger venues.
Why earn £10,000 from a gig when you earn £100,000 from playing Earls Court. Fans can get close enough there, its just a shit venue.
Brixton is the intimate thank you to the fans, they have no need to do any more.
Fenderek
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I have an idea about Brixton, and the reasons for a high price/fan only/ fairly intimate venue.
If it comes off, I will claim to have foreseen it. If it does not, I will admit it.
But I'm not telling yet.[/QUOTE]
Recording a live album or DVD out of it...?
If it comes off, I will claim to have foreseen it. If it does not, I will admit it.
But I'm not telling yet.[/QUOTE]
Recording a live album or DVD out of it...?
Benn
Eggy, if you actually bothered to READ my posts, rather than just concentrating on responding no matter what, then you would have seen that, thoroughout this thread, I have suggested that the band will play small venues:
"As the tour progresses" and "Just as The Stones did".
That is to say, IN ADDITION to the standard tour format of arenas / stadia.
I'm not sure how much simpler you want me to put that in order for you to understand that it's SIMPLE business logic for them to dangle the carrott to the hard-core fans of a timy venue, where you will never be more than 80m from the stage.
If you've ever been to Earls Court, you will know how close to the stage you can get and it's not very close at all, comparatively, regardless of whether you're at the front or not.
"As the tour progresses" and "Just as The Stones did".
That is to say, IN ADDITION to the standard tour format of arenas / stadia.
I'm not sure how much simpler you want me to put that in order for you to understand that it's SIMPLE business logic for them to dangle the carrott to the hard-core fans of a timy venue, where you will never be more than 80m from the stage.
If you've ever been to Earls Court, you will know how close to the stage you can get and it's not very close at all, comparatively, regardless of whether you're at the front or not.
eggy
As I reply no matter what I'll reply again...
I was at Earls Court twice less then three weeks ago, and its close enough and I didn't go right to the front as its pure carnage. If you're in the seating blocks at the back I'd agree with you in that the atmosphere can be lost a little for the audience. Saying that Muse got everyone to get their phones out instead of lighters and the atmosphere that created around the place was electric and the band seemed to kick a real kick out of that as well.
Obviously at Hammersmith at Sherpherd Bush you can get right to touching level but you can't at Brixton either.
I don't know these forgein venues,but they all seem stadia to me. Queen are a stadia band. Hence I think they will stay in them.
There is nothing wrong with harmless debate, you think they will I think they won't. I'm just saying my reasons why I think they won't whereas you like to make it into some sort of disagreement.
There is no use in using CAPSLOCK for emphasis as it really does not do anything.
I was at Earls Court twice less then three weeks ago, and its close enough and I didn't go right to the front as its pure carnage. If you're in the seating blocks at the back I'd agree with you in that the atmosphere can be lost a little for the audience. Saying that Muse got everyone to get their phones out instead of lighters and the atmosphere that created around the place was electric and the band seemed to kick a real kick out of that as well.
Obviously at Hammersmith at Sherpherd Bush you can get right to touching level but you can't at Brixton either.
I don't know these forgein venues,but they all seem stadia to me. Queen are a stadia band. Hence I think they will stay in them.
There is nothing wrong with harmless debate, you think they will I think they won't. I'm just saying my reasons why I think they won't whereas you like to make it into some sort of disagreement.
There is no use in using CAPSLOCK for emphasis as it really does not do anything.