Don't Let Queenzone Die

No any censorship, for God's sake!

If people want to say crap - they would say it, no matter of what we think about it.

There's no cure for such things - moderator would have his own tastes and points of view and would be able to delete what he/she just doesn't like. That's wrong.

Maybe we need more forums here, just like it was done with Paul/Tour case. And if guys would go on to post their thoughts about Paul on Queen forum you could remove it into special forum.

That's it.

I'd gladly see the postcounts gone (and the REGISTRATION date returned in the postcounts place).

As to what I consider the biggest problem on queenzone? Well, after lack of phpbb ;-)
there's "postwhoring" and removing the postcount/status and OR starting a new "freezone" section (a section where posting doesn't increase your count) could solve a few problems.

But I guess I could always bugger off, three years as a poster is enough. :-P

I don't like moderation as they do on QOL (where my posts are deleted without explanations). But I also find difficult and tiring to check the board to find maybe 10 interesting threads out of 100. If we could just move Charles Baer's threads into the Queenzone.com foum, that would really improve the readability and pleasantness of the board.

Jess, I don't think you would be included in the bunch of "spoiled" posters, because you actually contribute to the board. I more so think the complaints are directed towards Baer clones (who, I might add, are not funny, nor do they add anything to the board except for inane crap and crass subject titles. Anyone who finds the clones' posts funny obvious has the mentality of an 11 year old).

I may be in the minorty, but I am finding Megamike's goodbye topics to be extremely tedious. Were they ever funny? I'm surprised he is resorting to such childish posts...

Anyway...I thought Zeni's suggestions were good, but I really don't think much will change around here.

The solution is simple. Add a new forum - perhaps call it something innocuous like the "QueenZone Coffee Room" - and get the moderator to move all of the crap and mind-numbing threads into this section, leaving the cream of the discussions in the Personal section.

This is not censorship and leaves each individual poster's right to free speech intact. It will certainly make it easier for people to sort the Wheat from the Chaff, so to speak. If you should fancy wandering down to the Coffee Room to find out whose anus Charles Baer is sniffing today, then you can do so. However, no doubt the majority will avoid this proposed extra forum at all costs.

The only major decision to make would be to decide who should be moderator. If Barbara volunteers to take on the role in a more active capacity, there will be no arguments from me.

You should stay, KillerQueen840. If you read all this without moving on to a "lighter" topic you are certainly not someone I have in mind. - Although you would not be any less respected if you remove the ugly green colour from your username :)

I've only been on this board for about six months. I was attracted by my love of Queen and with the hopes of meeting other like-minded people. I haven't been here long enough to see what the board was like before the influx of useless posts but can only imagine that it was probably what I'm looking for.
Fatty,Zeni,YV and a few others have made a lot of excellent points and I can only reiterate what they have said. I don't believe moderation is the answer and I hate to admit I have been drawn into the stupid threads (Baer,often HeM and Megamike) on more than one occasion. Maybe there should be a separate forum for Stupid Threads. Maybe there should be a caretaker who moves them from section to section. I really don't have the answer. I think the only way we can move forward is if those responsible for the state of the board grow up and learn some respect for it.
We should all be accountable for what we post. Let's look at ourselves and try to bring this board back from the brink.
Another excellent point that YV made: maybe we should be ganging up on the idiots to force them to leave or fit in.
I know I'm babbling and doubt I've added anything constructive but that's my two cents for now.

Rob

I think it's too late. The lunatics have already taken over, and you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

The days of the board being self-moderated went when people started whinging about the treatment inane, repetitive and pointless topics got from the more long-term members. THis led to less abuse towards newbies, which led to more newbies posting shite unmolested, which then decreases the average intelligence of the board's content.

So, all the sanctimonious "lay off the new guys", IN MY VIEW has given you (the generalised population) THIS forum.

I think there may be a need for an invitation-only private forum. Unfortunately, most of the people who would enrich it have already given up and left, and half of the rest no longer have the energy to go to more forums.

So we're all doomed. Happy days...

Basically, you gave the answer yourself, Jericho05: just don't post in the crappy threads.

I am totally against this moving around of topics and creating extra forums for useless posts - come on. Occasional nonsense topics are fun and do not hurt anybody. It's the sheer number of these threads that choke the board. Nobody gets a heart attack when a topic is in the wrong forum - who cares. But 20 "I hate newbie" threads per week in the Queen forum can kill the board as well as opening the Personal Forum and seeing the same name as a last poster in each and every thread. We all must know that it's impossible that someone has to contribute something useful to any given thread. When I see that I don't even want to open the threads anymore. A little bit of self control and responsibility can do more than 100 mods.

Things are dire and have been for some time. its a great shame because a lot of effort has been put in by so many people especially the whole sharing the music / bittorrent scheme.

Hopefully things will improve once the tour begins and people will once again discuss interesting issues.

It was said before, and I say it once more: if you know the thread is filled with BS, why bother posting in it? Some people just don't quite get the fact that what these spammers enjoy is attention and more attention.

And another thing, do we have to resort to the strictest moderation?

I began coming to Queenzone back in late 1997. There have been times when it was great fun, there have been times when I was bored...angry...whatever. There have been times when I wanted a break, sometimes 6 or 8 weeks would pass without me even looking at it. But I've not thought of leaving.

Everyone always thinks that the time when Queenzone was the best was when THEY arrived on the scene. And then almost everyone eventually claims it has gone to the dogs. I can remember..when QueenRocker crashed, and all the members there flooded Queenzone. We were all horrified, being a tight-knit little group, and alot of the 'originals' left because they felt Queenzone was ruined beyond repair. But soon the personalities meshed (after alot of bickering and some real fights, lol), we got along, and at least some of the Queen Rocker people became some of Queenzone's best loved and funny, and intelligent posters.

I really don't think moderation is the answer. Yes, there alot of posts that I think Queenzone could do without...for all I know, others feel that way about MY posts! Someone might hate birthday threads, others hate Baer, and some love him, etc etc... I also thinks its rediculous of people to post of leaving, never coming back, etc. To me, its simple, you either pick and chose what you would like to respond to, or you go, simple as that. Posting dramatic goodbyes is always a wrong idea...almost everyone comes back at one time or another.

Queenzone will only be as good as the posters here are willing to make it. As Barbara says, there's nothing wrong with a bit of nonsense and mischief now and again. And the people who can't deal with it need to lighten up! The place is full of people from different ages, locations, walks of life, etc. Not everyone is going to get along, or find all jokes funny, or approve of everyone's behavior. And because its unmoderated, you have every right to say so! Its the differences of people, that made the board interesting in the past, and I think that if people just took a little care with what they do and don't post on, it could be that way again.

"I think there may be a need for an invitation-only private forum."

... I was going to say that....

"Unfortunately, most of the people who would enrich it have already given up and left, and half of the rest no longer have the energy to go to more forums."

...but then I too thought of that. A no win situation it seems.



Janet, love the new signature ;-)

And who says who is good enough to enter the private sanctuary? Who picks?

Perhaps the elite few should just converse on IM. Then they wouldn't have to deal with the rabble at all.


Thanks :-)

I have to agree with Janet - who is going to pick members for an invitation only forum? Silly idea if you ask me.