It seems like the money that is being donated to the victims of the tsunami is more about outdoing the other country than doing something good. I can't believe that people actually say that the U.S. hasn't given enough...
It also pisses me off when I see celebrities asking people to donate money, I don't understand why they don't just give away their own damn money, when some of the movie stars make 20 million a picture...
So I guess this is just a topic with me saying I'm disgusted with the way the money is talked about during this disaster.
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Yeah, I understand now. Maybe it's nice to go to Europe once, where people live with each other instead of the American ego-culture.
Yeah, I understand now. Maybe it's nice to go to Europe once, where people live with each other instead of the American ego-culture.
American ego-culture? Are you serious?
I'm a Polish immigrant to this country and I have never seen people more generous. Contrary to popular belief, the streets of America are not paved in gold.
I'm a Polish immigrant to this country and I have never seen people more generous. Contrary to popular belief, the streets of America are not paved in gold.
Off the subject just slightlty. I'm gonna donate some money tomorrow. Probably only around £5.00 though but still it's better than nothing. Starting next week i should be doing some paper work for my dads buisiness. If i do enough i'll earn anything between £60-£90 a week!!! When i get that money i'll send at least £40 to the Tsunami Aid. Possibly more.
American ego-culture? Are you serious?
I'm a Polish immigrant to this country and I have never seen people more generous. Contrary to popular belief, the streets of America are not paved in gold.
A (Dutch) friend of my is soccer trainer in America, and he told me about the differences between people in Holland and America. So it isn's based on a wild gues or preconceptions.
right, just one person's opinion...
I don't find it too surprising that your friend from Holland prefers his own country to another...
It seems like the money that is being donated to the victims of the tsunami is more about outdoing the other country than doing something good. I can't believe that people actually say that the U.S. hasn't given enough...
It also pisses me off when I see celebrities asking people to donate money, I don't understand why they don't just give away their own damn money, when some of the movie stars make 20 million a picture...
So I guess this is just a topic with me saying I'm disgusted with the way the money is talked about during this disaster.
I see it from a completely different point of view actually...
First of all, I think it's great to see how all the countries are able to stick together in this case. It shows that there's still humanity on earth and that we ARE able to collaborate, although it's sad that it takes more than 150.000 deaths and mass destruction until this works...
I don't think that America is not giving enough money, but compared to other countries like Australia, England, Germany, etc they are giving relatively little money considering that America is supposed to be "the most powerful country in the world" and has a bigger population and more money than these other countries.
What annoys me more, is that America spends Millions or Billions on a stupid and useless war and when it comes to such a disaster they won't give more than 350 mio dollars.
It does look like a kind of competition between the countries... like...which country gives more, which country's the best and most helpful, etc...
But the money is needed urgently. What are these countries in South Asia supposed to do? They've lost everything. And all the money that's been given and promised so far won't be enough yet to build up the countries again.
Celebreties: they DO give away their own money. Of course that's a good opportunity to promote themselves, but why not if it helps?
I prefer to see them promoting themselves by asking people to donate money instead of making stupid advertising for drinks or cosmetics!
It seems like the money that is being donated to the victims of the tsunami is more about outdoing the other country than doing something good. I can't believe that people actually say that the U.S. hasn't given enough...
It also pisses me off when I see celebrities asking people to donate money, I don't understand why they don't just give away their own damn money, when some of the movie stars make 20 million a picture...
So I guess this is just a topic with me saying I'm disgusted with the way the money is talked about during this disaster.
Some celebrities prefer to keep quiet about the amount they are donating, and some others prefer not to mention donating money when in fact they do.
Steven Spielberg is one of those who doesn't usually mention how much money he sends to charity, but he mentioned that he donated 1.5 million dollars for the tsunami aid as to encourage other wealthy celebrities to donate as much money as possible.
Sandra Bullock who doesn't have as much as the wealthiest director of all time, donated 1 million.
George W. Bush donate 10.000 from his own pocket, but I don't want to criticize him for that. We all know that he could have given more, but at least he gave something.
As a bad example of celebrities donating for the Tsunami, we have Madonna who donated 10.000 bottles of Kabbalah water. Probably expecting victims to join her new fad,... err, I mean "religion".
But at least Madonna has donated something. In the case of FOX News host Bill O'Reilly, who hasn't publicly admited donating anything for the Tsunami aid relief, but he also has strongly criticized and poked fun at George Clooney among other celebrities who have organized a tsunami aid telethon. O'Reilly called the event a not very reliable one, and a publicity stunt for all the celebrities involved.
George Clooney couldn't have given a better response than this one:
"Former Presidents Bush and Clinton believe this is an important enough event to participate in. We're not playing games here, we're trying to save lives. It's as simple as this; you're either with this joint effort or against it. We need an answer immediately."
So it was once again, time for Billy O'Reilly to SHUT UP!
The Americans are also sending 2 aircraft carriers, 2 flotilla's of ships, 15,000 troops, aircraft & helicopters - they all cost money as well.
I know it sounds awful, but I'm afraid I've got Donation Fatigue.
The government say they'll match the public's money - with the fucking public's money!
The government say they'll match the public's money - with the fucking public's money!
I don't find it too surprising that your friend from Holland prefers his own country to another...
He goes back to America every year, so I think he likes it in your country. He's already ordered a new Visa for the next half year. He only told me about the differences, people live more for their own. As I told, he's a soccer trainer and it's hard for him to built a team of American players. The players do not think of what’s the best for the team, they only think of themselves.
Last week we had a land-wide action to gather money for the Tsunami victims. And everyone donated something that day, old and young, poor and rich; children where on the streets selling things, all businesses where earning money and there where spontaneous collections everywhere. There was also an united Radio and TV-broadcast by several (commercial and non-commercial) channels. The result? 130.000.000 euro (population 16 million)!!! I don’t think something like this is possible in America.
Mir@cle...
I want to remind you that not all of us here in America are narrow minded, right-wing nuts, superficial, selfish, greedy, arrogant, and ultra-conservative.
The majority of people here is very concerned about the tsunami, and we feel this tragedy as our own because we haven't seen so much humanitarian effort to help those in need since 9/11.
Of course there's always morons like Bill O'Reilly (see my previous post) who don't give a flying shit about how many people have died in any tragedy of this kind on foreign nations, and probably think that the tsunami was nothing but a punishment from God against non-christian and muslim majority nations. For all that people like him think, it was good to wipe some poverty out of the face of the earth. Yet again, there's only a very few percentage of people who think this way.
Everyone else is very concerned about this issue, and want to help in anyway they can.
And yes, things like that are possible in America. In fact, George Clooney among other celebrities are organizing a telethon to raise money for the tsunami victims. That just to mention that particular event, because many Americans poor and rich, old and young, have put an effort into raising money for the tsunami cause.
Besides, why should this be a competition between who donates more or less. It's all about a great cause.
I want to remind you that not all of us here in America are narrow minded, right-wing nuts, superficial, selfish, greedy, arrogant, and ultra-conservative.
The majority of people here is very concerned about the tsunami, and we feel this tragedy as our own because we haven't seen so much humanitarian effort to help those in need since 9/11.
Of course there's always morons like Bill O'Reilly (see my previous post) who don't give a flying shit about how many people have died in any tragedy of this kind on foreign nations, and probably think that the tsunami was nothing but a punishment from God against non-christian and muslim majority nations. For all that people like him think, it was good to wipe some poverty out of the face of the earth. Yet again, there's only a very few percentage of people who think this way.
Everyone else is very concerned about this issue, and want to help in anyway they can.
And yes, things like that are possible in America. In fact, George Clooney among other celebrities are organizing a telethon to raise money for the tsunami victims. That just to mention that particular event, because many Americans poor and rich, old and young, have put an effort into raising money for the tsunami cause.
Besides, why should this be a competition between who donates more or less. It's all about a great cause.
Mir@cle...
I want to remind you that not all of us here in America are narrow minded, right-wing nuts, superficial, selfish, greedy, arrogant, and ultra-conservative.
The majority of people here is very concerned about the tsunami, and we feel this tragedy as our own because we haven't seen so much humanitarian effort to help those in need since 9/11.
Of course there's always morons like Bill O'Reilly (see my previous post) who don't give a flying shit about how many people have died in any tragedy of this kind on foreign nations, and probably think that the tsunami was nothing but a punishment from God against non-christian and muslim majority nations. For all that people like him think, it was good to wipe some poverty out of the face of the earth. Yet again, there's only a very few percentage of people who think this way.
Everyone else is very concerned about this issue, and want to help in anyway they can.
And yes, things like that are possible in America. In fact, George Clooney among other celebrities are organizing a telethon to raise money for the tsunami victims. That just to mention that particular event, because many Americans poor and rich, old and young, have put an effort into raising money for the tsunami cause.
Besides, why should this be a competition between who donates more or less. It's all about a great cause.
I think you're right. My opinion is maybe too much based on the Bush and O'Reilly figures in the USA. But they are chosen by Americans, aren't they??
Well....the first time Bush was chosen by less people than who chose his opponent, and the 2nd time had the narrowest percentage margin of victory for an incumbent since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.
Bill O'Reilly works for FOX, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch. 'nuff said there.
I used to watch O'Reilly once a week. I have differing views of the world, but the man did make sense, and, painful that it is to say, was correct in many of his opinions. Nowadays, there seems to be more 'hate' and viciousness in his approach, to the point where I can't stomach him for more than ten minutes. No idea what he's trying to prove anymore. He was spiteful in his remarks concerning the celebrity fundraising for the 9/11 victims, and now this. Perhaps his mind is elsewhere at times, wishing he could make obscene phone calls to female associates...
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Bill O'Reilly works for FOX, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch. 'nuff said there.
I used to watch O'Reilly once a week. I have differing views of the world, but the man did make sense, and, painful that it is to say, was correct in many of his opinions. Nowadays, there seems to be more 'hate' and viciousness in his approach, to the point where I can't stomach him for more than ten minutes. No idea what he's trying to prove anymore. He was spiteful in his remarks concerning the celebrity fundraising for the 9/11 victims, and now this. Perhaps his mind is elsewhere at times, wishing he could make obscene phone calls to female associates...
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