i've heard a couple of little niggles lately about this great song - i think one was during the "making of " bbc docu where Brian is beginning to play down the greatness of the song...and also he's "bigging up" his part in it....
i'm beginning to think he's trying to rewrite history a little. and now i'm convinced of it - and worse still i think it's through petty jealously - because he didn't "create" queen's finest moment
read this month's "UNCUT" mag and tell me he's just not-so-ever-so-slightly starting to belittle this great song....what next Bri? WWRY is queen's defining moment? and Bo Rhap just a bit part?
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How about telling us the part you're talking about so we can listen for ourselves. I don't remember anything bad about it.
Peace,
Adam.
Peace,
Adam.
as i said they were just "niggles" in the bo rhap story - - i felt he was trying to take credit for huge chunks of the song - esp as he said " the other three did the backing track and then Fred left him to fill in all the guitar parts" - surely the song-writer would be "directing traffic" - esp THAT early in queen's career....
but here's the latest niggle from UNCUT magazine
Did Bohemian Rhapsody change everything?
Brian: quite honestly bo rap wasn't that big a deal to us. It was a pivotal momment for us. But it was one of many, many pivotal moments.
but here's the latest niggle from UNCUT magazine
Did Bohemian Rhapsody change everything?
Brian: quite honestly bo rap wasn't that big a deal to us. It was a pivotal momment for us. But it was one of many, many pivotal moments.
I don't see it. Sorry. Especially not that second quote.
peace,
Adam.
peace,
Adam.
I don't see it. Sorry. Especially not that second quote.
peace,
Adam.
sorry Adam - what DON'T you see? that 2nd quote os from this month's UNCUT magazine
it also heavily promotes the new queen - ie for their tour - but those comments re Bo-Rap not being a big deal are fairly astounding - is brian trying to understate Queen's (and Freddie's) greatest song - and the song that consistently tops world-wide greatest song polls? - why is that? i think he's jealous of that song
Without knowing the context of this utterance, it sounds to me as if he is talking about the feelings they had when they recorded the song. It's perfectly understandable that recording Bo Rhap was not a life-changing experience, since they already had equally complex songs in their repertoire. No jealousy there for me.
What I meant by not seeing what you're talking about, is that it sounds like it refers to the band's usual stance. Freddie's comment at the end of the BBC docu states a more direct response about it, i.e. belongs to a different era, a different time and that's over. So why would they say any different from their usual response.
No need to get heated about it! lol
Peace,
Adam.
No need to get heated about it! lol
Peace,
Adam.
Perhaps the royalty thing did affect Brian, moe in terms of respect and admiration than money, and that`s why he took credit of I Want It All, for instance, it can be possible. I mean Brian`s a great person but as nearly everyone, he`s got some flaws, his is to be falsly modest and subtly claim himself as a hero. IMHO.
What I meant by not seeing what you're talking about, is that it sounds like it refers to the band's usual stance. Freddie's comment at the end of the BBC docu states a more direct response about it, i.e. belongs to a different era, a different time and that's over. So why would they say any different from their usual response.
No need to get heated about it! lol
Peace,
Adam.
sorry Adam, wasn't getting heated
but the question was clearly :
Did Bohemian Rhapsody change everything?
and Brian's response was:
"quite honestly bo rap wasn't that big a deal to us. It was a pivotal momment for us. But it was one of many, many pivotal moments."
now to my mind - as the interviewer is asking if the song changed everything, then Brian's trying to say it didn't...well of course it did!!! and that makes him a little jealoous in my book
it smacks a little of Mccartney's (god love and respect him) attempt last year to get all the writing credits changed ffrom Lennon/McCartney to Mccartney/Lennon
- on the surface it doesn't change much, but when you look below the surface it is a little bit of inferiority andjealousy slipping through - brian can't change the past - but he is trying to alter the populist view of that past - but it don't wash with me.
What I meant by not seeing what you're talking about, is that it sounds like it refers to the band's usual stance. Freddie's comment at the end of the BBC docu states a more direct response about it, i.e. belongs to a different era, a different time and that's over. So why would they say any different from their usual response.
No need to get heated about it! lol
Peace,
Adam.
sorry Adam, wasn't getting heated
but the question was clearly :
Did Bohemian Rhapsody change everything?
and Brian's response was:
"quite honestly bo rap wasn't that big a deal to us. It was a pivotal momment for us. But it was one of many, many pivotal moments."
now to my mind - as the interviewer is asking if the song changed everything, then Brian's trying to say it didn't...well of course it did!!! and that makes him a little jealoous in my book
it smacks a little of Mccartney's (god love and respect him) attempt last year to get all the writing credits changed ffrom Lennon/McCartney to Mccartney/Lennon
- on the surface it doesn't change much, but when you look below the surface it is a little bit of inferiority andjealousy slipping through - brian can't change the past - but he is trying to alter the populist view of that past - but it don't wash with me.
oops double post - apols
What I meant by not seeing what you're talking about, is that it sounds like it refers to the band's usual stance. Freddie's comment at the end of the BBC docu states a more direct response about it, i.e. belongs to a different era, a different time and that's over. So why would they say any different from their usual response.
No need to get heated about it! lol
Peace,
Adam.
sorry Adam, wasn't getting heated
but the question was clearly :
Did Bohemian Rhapsody change everything?
and Brian's response was:
"quite honestly bo rap wasn't that big a deal to us. It was a pivotal momment for us. But it was one of many, many pivotal moments."
now to my mind - as the interviewer is asking if the song changed everything, then Brian's trying to say it didn't...well of course it did!!! and that makes him a little jealoous in my book
it smacks a little of Mccartney's (god love and respect him) attempt last year to get all the writing credits changed ffrom Lennon/McCartney to Mccartney/Lennon
- on the surface it doesn't change much, but when you look below the surface it is a little bit of inferiority andjealousy slipping through - brian can't change the past - but he is trying to alter the populist view of that past - but it don't wash with me.
Well....the truth is it DIDNT "change everything"...you may want to pin some mystical historical signficance to the song....but it really has none. Its a great song....interesting...and unique in its time.....but so what? Pop music in general....is incredibly easy to compose....for a musician. Non-musicians dont realize this. For him to say "not a huge deal"....is him being honest. Its just another pop/rock and roll song....although a bit longer than most....and it has some operatic stuff thrown in the middle. It AINT that big a deal. Fun song? Yes. Classic Queen? Yes. Important in the grand scheme of things? Nope.
I agree. Bo Rhap is unique and imo very important historically, but still it didn`t change everything. How many Bo Rhap-like pieces do you find in the radio today? Or any year?
So just because Brian mentions that he wrote the guitar parts on Boh Rap does it mean that he's a cocky and arrogant?
C'mon people! Freddie and Roy Thomas Baker have also mentioned that Brian indeed wrote those guitar parts. Is it a problem if Brian just mentions it again?
Bohemian Rhapsody was perhaps Queen's finest moment, but arguably there were other great moments as well (which were as big, or perhaps even bigger) and I think that what Brian meant is that 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is not seen by Queen as their finest moment as "one hit-wonders" enjoy their moment of popularity with one single song.
C'mon people! Freddie and Roy Thomas Baker have also mentioned that Brian indeed wrote those guitar parts. Is it a problem if Brian just mentions it again?
Bohemian Rhapsody was perhaps Queen's finest moment, but arguably there were other great moments as well (which were as big, or perhaps even bigger) and I think that what Brian meant is that 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is not seen by Queen as their finest moment as "one hit-wonders" enjoy their moment of popularity with one single song.
well it wasn't easy to compose, freddie himself said it wasn't easy...and i really can't think of any songs like bo rhap on the radio right now and even if there were, would they be memorable? probably not
I thought Bo Rhap finally established Queen as a professional band. If I understand correctly, they would have been just about bankrupt if the single hadn't worked. Sounds like a very important pivotal point to me! No Bo Rhap= possibly no more Queen.