(Hello, I am new here and I am 18 years old. Queen were my first favorite band when I was in 5th grade and I love everything they do. With that said...)
I was listening to things like Ogre Battle, March of the Black Queen, Death on Two Legs, and why not, Bohemian Rhapsody and I see that these were awesome compositions. And then I move forward in Queen's timeline and I listen to songs like "It's a Kind of Magic" and even "Body Language" and I think: where did their ambition go? Why did they lose it?
Why did Freddie stop creating these masterpieces? Now that he's gone (RIP) sadly, we cannot know this for sure. But really, I would like to know what happened?
Thanks.
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They just changed their style to suit the new age.. i love alot of their newer stuff
I think they unfortunately learned how to write hits. Good for success, bad for art. It was probably for the best in the end, but it did result in a lack of innovation in later years for them, I think.
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Well, I don't think they've lost their ambition to write good songs nor was there a lack of innovation. They just grew with the time... Like they changed their outfits and style they also changed their music.
When they started, glam rock was the thing and that's what they did and that's what they looked like. To me a band is a real good band only when you hear their development and growing and changing from album to album. I think they wrote brilliant songs till the last album...actually, Innuendo is one of their best albums!
It's just the fact that "music changes through the years"...
Well, I don't think they've lost their ambition to write good songs nor was there a lack of innovation. They just grew with the time... Like they changed their outfits and style they also changed their music.
When they started, glam rock was the thing and that's what they did and that's what they looked like. To me a band is a real good band only when you hear their development and growing and changing from album to album. I think they wrote brilliant songs till the last album...actually, Innuendo is one of their best albums!
It's just the fact that "music changes through the years"...
(Hello, I am new here and I am 18 years old. Queen were my first favorite band when I was in 5th grade and I love everything they do. With that said...)
I was listening to things like Ogre Battle, March of the Black Queen, Death on Two Legs, and why not, Bohemian Rhapsody and I see that these were awesome compositions. And then I move forward in Queen's timeline and I listen to songs like "It's a Kind of Magic" and even "Body Language" and I think: where did their ambition go? Why did they lose it?
Why did Freddie stop creating these masterpieces? Now that he's gone (RIP) sadly, we cannot know this for sure. But really, I would like to know what happened?
Thanks.
Crap ... Innuendo is a song Freddie created in 1990 and it is better than any song from Queen II.
Also, Radio Ga Ga, Its a Hard Life or Who Wants To Live Forever are awesome songs.
only successful bands area able to grow over time, and good fans should realize that too.
I base most modern bands who release drastically different or diverse albums albums on the Queen formula, in my opinion, those bands will be around a long time. As artists you have to grow and not keep doing the same thing forever or you will lose interest, eventually people will catch on and hate you for being a one trick pony.
As much as I like those alubms, I'm sure Queen would never be as popular as they were today if they churned out 73-75 ish sounding material their whole career, fans grow with a band.
I base most modern bands who release drastically different or diverse albums albums on the Queen formula, in my opinion, those bands will be around a long time. As artists you have to grow and not keep doing the same thing forever or you will lose interest, eventually people will catch on and hate you for being a one trick pony.
As much as I like those alubms, I'm sure Queen would never be as popular as they were today if they churned out 73-75 ish sounding material their whole career, fans grow with a band.
I agree with Peter and Sonja... The songs are different, but they've made masperpieces in every period of their carreers. Innuendo is an good example.
Welcome by the way... good question for a newbie. It's important here to have a good start. You'll soon know why :-)
Welcome by the way... good question for a newbie. It's important here to have a good start. You'll soon know why :-)
Would you be a Queen fan if they have released 15 albums only with songs like March Of The Black Queen?
"only successful bands area able to grow over time, and good fans should realize that too."
How true. Check out 3 Doors Down, Nickelback, and the rest of Corporate rock to see bands that NEVER change what they do. All of the fucking songs sound the same...
How true. Check out 3 Doors Down, Nickelback, and the rest of Corporate rock to see bands that NEVER change what they do. All of the fucking songs sound the same...
Good question!!
I think their last great album is Jazz. MIH and Innuendo both have some great songs on them, but Jazz is where the real consistent brilliance finishes up, although god knows they came up with some class things later on in life too.
I think it is because they learned to write hits, it's an excellent point.
I think their last great album is Jazz. MIH and Innuendo both have some great songs on them, but Jazz is where the real consistent brilliance finishes up, although god knows they came up with some class things later on in life too.
I think it is because they learned to write hits, it's an excellent point.
That is a really good question. I must admit I felt the same way for ages, but I've Queen's later material grew on me. I know styles change, but there's nothing wrong with prefering one era of Queen over another. Everything up to Hot Space are my favorites. Personally I just don't feel the same magic in any of Queen's music past that era, but that's just me and my tastes.
All the albums like Queen, Queen II, A night..., A day at..., Sheer Heart Attack have the same style but none of the songs sound the same so I have to disagree with someone who asked if I would still like them if they did the same thing forever.
It's just that one would think that through practice and repetition someone would perfect their art and not, I feel, take a step back and come up with poppy hits.
Objectively, I am sure they had an easier time recording "It's a Kind of Magic" than say, "Brighton Rock".
Their music went from incredibly to interesting to just ...swell.
And no, I am not saying that they had bad albums in the end. I love Innuendo but I just can't see where they chose to make things simpler ...a lot simpler.
It's just that one would think that through practice and repetition someone would perfect their art and not, I feel, take a step back and come up with poppy hits.
Objectively, I am sure they had an easier time recording "It's a Kind of Magic" than say, "Brighton Rock".
Their music went from incredibly to interesting to just ...swell.
And no, I am not saying that they had bad albums in the end. I love Innuendo but I just can't see where they chose to make things simpler ...a lot simpler.
I don`t see they had a formula for the first albums. Some say they were into multi-track vocals and guitars, but I don`t find much of that in Spread Your Wings or Stone Cold Crazy. Their musical style isn`t something you could label even if you pick just one side of an album. Take, for instance, the Black Side of Queen II. In which genre can you pigeon-hole Ogre Battle, Masterstroke, Nevermore, Black Queen, Funny and Seven Seas? They`re all so different.
Probably they`ve lasted the same (or even more) in A Kind Of Magic than they spent in Brighton Rock imo. Sometimes it`s even easier to try out all ideas you`ve got, than to be able to stay minimalist and pick the right note at the right moment. Same for Brian`s guitar work, sometimes it`d be easier to just overdub a handful of block harmonies than to risk yourself to record just one guitar track, but do it so well that you wouldn`t need anymore (e.g. Bijou).
Probably they`ve lasted the same (or even more) in A Kind Of Magic than they spent in Brighton Rock imo. Sometimes it`s even easier to try out all ideas you`ve got, than to be able to stay minimalist and pick the right note at the right moment. Same for Brian`s guitar work, sometimes it`d be easier to just overdub a handful of block harmonies than to risk yourself to record just one guitar track, but do it so well that you wouldn`t need anymore (e.g. Bijou).
And no, I am not saying that they had bad albums in the end. I love Innuendo but I just can't see where they chose to make things simpler ...a lot simpler.
Just one example: Innuendo.
Where is this song simple?
I believe they NEVER made "simple" things. They always put everything they could into their work. Maybe technical development and improvement made it easier for them to realize their ideas but that doesn't mean that they didn't put as much work into the last albums as they did in the beginning.
I don't think they lost their ambition exactly, but they just cared about different things. All of their lives changed in those years to the point that Freddie preferred writing about his trouble with love instead of the more mythical songs of the seventies.