Flac files

tilomagnet wrote:

Rip Van Winkle wrote:

Both types of sharing can coexist harmoniously, but you insist on implying that mp3 traders are selfish, ignorant and tone-deaf.

To insist that everyone trade or share flac is ludicrous and causes these issues to mp3 users:

Actually mp3 should never be a format to trade music. Trading means to share music and to preserve the quality of the material traded, even if it´s a poor 30-year-old audience recording.
That doesn´t mean mp3 is not a useful format, it´s ok for your personal use, but mp3 should not be traded.
To me a person who shares mp3 is not a trader, because the aim of a trader is to preserve the original quality of the recording as far as possible.

Yep, preservation of the original. That's the key.
And those of us who wish to do so, should be allowed to do so without any whinging :-)

Mp3-boots shared always managed to infect trading pools when there ALWAYS is and ALWAYS will be some profiteers etc. who will try to pass the mp3'files as lossless material (instead of mp3 for mp3 swaps) and trade them.

Sharing in FLAC/SHN preserves the original quality, gives the community FREE boots in their preserved original quality (no matter how bad/good it is), hopefully cuts profits from bootleg-selling nimrods and helps keep the "trading pool" clean of lossy copies passed as lossless.

foxxy_moron wrote:

Yes yes, flac consumes space..
and i found that the sound quality on them werent that great.. although.. it was from the apollo theatre 77 concert that i wanted winamp for.
the concert itself was brilliant but all i could hear was the audience.

I don´t understand your point at all. If you have a so called poor 30-year-old recording, then it doesn´t matter if you make it even worse by encoding it to mp3? That doesn´t make sense.

We are all very lucky that we can listen to these concerts from the 70s and 80s. Most of these shows will probably never be officially released. Some people here seem to take it for granted that we can listen to these recordings and that they can do with them whatever they want. That is wrong.
We should preserve the quality of these recordings as good as we can, they are unique and they deserve to be treated like this.

And if you say you can´t hear the difference between an mp3 and a flac copy, then it doesn´t mean nobody can hear the difference. Think about that.

I think this can be continue on and on with the same topic, but I think it is useless. The main thing of the pro-FLACers's argument that I don't agree is that you should conserve 100.00% a crappy recording in which you can barely destinguish the crowd from the band. Why not convert some old VHS bootleg tape to a DVD like format so you don't lose anything there?

But if that's your choice go ahead! Keep sharing the superb free lossless audio codec (FLAC) used on shitty recordings.

ghandi wrote:

But if that's your choice go ahead! Keep sharing the superb free lossless audio codec (FLAC) used on shitty recordings.

If the recordings all sound "shitty" anyway, why don´t you just delete all of them and listen to your perfect sounding studio material exclusively?
Maybe that would make it easier.

Another objection to Flac is that there is usually at least one song that will not decode using Flacfrontend ... so one must download another Flac conversion package to convert the "unconvertable" files (fortunately for me this has worked).

Why must those of us who are happy with mp3 be forced to do Flac backflips just to appease a few Flac hardliners? It sounds like the Moral Majority is trying to shove their beliefs on the heathen mp3 users. I mean, come on, in this age of Queen hubs and Bittorrents (not to mention QOL beating the bootleggers), who in their right mind would convert mp3 to flac?

Rip Van Winkle wrote:

Another objection to Flac is that there is usually at least one song that will not decode using Flacfrontend ... so one must download another Flac conversion package to convert the "unconvertable" files (fortunately for me this has worked).

The only problems I have ever had when converting Flac files came on a few boots available here on QZ. That was due to the strange apostrophe, and once I either deleted it or changed it, the files converted just fine with FlacFrontend.

In the 50+ boots I've converted from Flac, I've never had to use another program.

DbPowerAMP does not have problems with apostrophe's. I just converted New York 1977-12-01 and had problems with apostrophe's on 6 songs with Frontend. Now that you mention it I seem to remember some apostrophe comments regarding FlacFrontEnd a while back ... one tends not to remember such things when you get a cryptic DOS error. Anyway, again, it worked with DbPoweramp.

A while ago I deleted FlacFrontEnd, BitTornado, DbPowerAmp due to lack of Hard drive space (I've since bought an external hard drive). Late this afternoon, I've since downloaded FlacFrontEnd and DbPowerAmp again. I am 2/3 of the way through convert wav to mp3. It is long tedius process compared to just downloading an mp3. Oh well ... I wanted the complete version of 19770\-12-01 New York but it was only available on flac (but not mp3).

Rip Van Winkle wrote:

Now that you mention it I seem to remember some apostrophe comments regarding FlacFrontEnd a while back ... one tends not to remember such things when you get a cryptic DOS error.

It was on Whitemanadmin's torrents. The apostrophes in his track titles were different than what you would see on a normal Western keyboard. I'm assuming that led to a conversion error as FlacFrontend could not recognize it.

Finally finished converting to mp3. Roxio crashed 3 times (never done that to me before). Oh well.

I will be sharing Flac, Wav and mpe versions of this concert on the hub for a while.

ohhhhhhh i think some of u are missunderstood by what i said. i wasnt slagging off flac files.. i guess i just had high hopes...