how about the beatles and the rubettes then?
last time i looked there were two original slade members in 'slade', the guitarist and the drummer.
believe it or not i think the sweet were absolutely fantastic at their peak. actually at the time they would of been my second favourite group.
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Hi again Purplepiepete
I am glad that you rated Sweet so highly years ago. As I said, check out the song I placed on here from their latest cover albu if you haven't. It definitely seems to be a return to form to me. I love Andy's guitar on this album.
Regarding your comparison to the Rubettes now (instead of The Wurzels), I was just wondering how much Sweet you really know. I mean, have you listened to many of their albums at all? I say that, because Sweet attempted to change their direction from an emphasis on singles to albums after their biggest glam rock successes. And while this didn't turn out to be all that successful unfortunately, I and many others have a very high respect for those albums. One thing that is particularly interesting about them is the evolution of the band that occurred on them. In the 1970's they went from bubblegum to glam (melodic) rock to heavy metal, back to melodic rock, then semi classical AOR and finally prog. Many fans only like certain albums and were miffed wheh the style changed, but as a whole, they make an interesting body of work. I moved with the band at the time and love them all.
PS Just to correct what I said earlier, Sweet actually had 8 number 1's in Germany (7 consecutively) and no less than 11 in Denmark. Just the one in the UK, but they also had 5 number 2's and many other chart hits of course.
I am glad that you rated Sweet so highly years ago. As I said, check out the song I placed on here from their latest cover albu if you haven't. It definitely seems to be a return to form to me. I love Andy's guitar on this album.
Regarding your comparison to the Rubettes now (instead of The Wurzels), I was just wondering how much Sweet you really know. I mean, have you listened to many of their albums at all? I say that, because Sweet attempted to change their direction from an emphasis on singles to albums after their biggest glam rock successes. And while this didn't turn out to be all that successful unfortunately, I and many others have a very high respect for those albums. One thing that is particularly interesting about them is the evolution of the band that occurred on them. In the 1970's they went from bubblegum to glam (melodic) rock to heavy metal, back to melodic rock, then semi classical AOR and finally prog. Many fans only like certain albums and were miffed wheh the style changed, but as a whole, they make an interesting body of work. I moved with the band at the time and love them all.
PS Just to correct what I said earlier, Sweet actually had 8 number 1's in Germany (7 consecutively) and no less than 11 in Denmark. Just the one in the UK, but they also had 5 number 2's and many other chart hits of course.
i didn't literally mean they are like the rubettes or the wurzels, i was joking.
i think i know a fair amount of their music from their golden period in the seventies. in fact i probably had everything they released from that time. well, from little willy to action anyway. plus two lps.
i use to look forward to the b-sides of their singles, these were usually rockers, weren't they?
i like 'need a lot of lovin,' burn on the flame,'
'new york connection,' 'sweet fa,' someone else will,' 'burning,'[especially like this one.]
actually i think there is an album with all the b-sides on, i may have to buy it!
slade.
guitar solos were few and far between in slade. however the thing you do notice about the band is the guitars even without solos. loud and rocking rhythm and riffs, like my favourite, 'take me ba'k 'ome.
also the guitars on 'slade alive' are rowdy and fantastic especially on their cover of 'born to be wild.'
actually that was my very first lp. my favourite live album, i rarely like live records but that one is a corker.
it was before they were famous.
i love the tone of andy scott's guitar.
i think i know a fair amount of their music from their golden period in the seventies. in fact i probably had everything they released from that time. well, from little willy to action anyway. plus two lps.
i use to look forward to the b-sides of their singles, these were usually rockers, weren't they?
i like 'need a lot of lovin,' burn on the flame,'
'new york connection,' 'sweet fa,' someone else will,' 'burning,'[especially like this one.]
actually i think there is an album with all the b-sides on, i may have to buy it!
slade.
guitar solos were few and far between in slade. however the thing you do notice about the band is the guitars even without solos. loud and rocking rhythm and riffs, like my favourite, 'take me ba'k 'ome.
also the guitars on 'slade alive' are rowdy and fantastic especially on their cover of 'born to be wild.'
actually that was my very first lp. my favourite live album, i rarely like live records but that one is a corker.
it was before they were famous.
i love the tone of andy scott's guitar.
the sweet had something, but didn't evolve quickly enough
their early to mid 70s stuff, excellent and fully in keeping with the style of the times, Love Is Like....was cool but was really (as far as hits were concerned) their swansong
slade were fun and noddy is a great british institution...their obsession with mis-spelled titles became a bit tired quickly. take the point about their "sound" - but there's a very curious drum sound on one of their later hits "c'est la vie"
their early to mid 70s stuff, excellent and fully in keeping with the style of the times, Love Is Like....was cool but was really (as far as hits were concerned) their swansong
slade were fun and noddy is a great british institution...their obsession with mis-spelled titles became a bit tired quickly. take the point about their "sound" - but there's a very curious drum sound on one of their later hits "c'est la vie"
bye, i'm leaving the forum.
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I hope you enjoyed travelling with Queenzone Airlines. Please remember to take all your belongings with you as you leave.
maybe he just wanted to achieve "rocker" status?
25 posts - that's affirmation
25 posts - that's affirmation
I wonder if he's ever going to achieve "Deity" status.
brENsKi wrote:
the sweet had something, but didn't evolve quickly enough
their early to mid 70s stuff, excellent and fully in keeping with the style of the times, Love Is Like....was cool but was really (as far as hits were concerned) their swansong
slade were fun and noddy is a great british institution...their obsession with mis-spelled titles became a bit tired quickly. take the point about their "sound" - but there's a very curious drum sound on one of their later hits "c'est la vie"[/QUOTE]
Hi brENsKi
Sweet deserted the UK and had only 1 concert on the UK mainland between 1975 and 1979 (inclusive). They focussed heavily on breaking into the US with huge tours in 1976 and 1978. In between they also released the 1977 album Off the Record, which was barely promoted at all and wasn't supported by a tour despie being quite a good album.
Love is Like Oxygen was an interesting return for them in 1978 and might have heralded a new era for the band. But sadly Brian Connolly had developed a drinking problem and was sacked at the end of the year during the making of Cut Above The Rest. That album is one of my favourites, but without Brian it sank like stone and effectively meant the end of the classical lineup of the band as a mega selling act. However before leaving, Brian put down a couple of demos, one of which called "That Girl" may have been the next single. Check it out here> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGScl0Kftzo
The remaining three members limped on for two more albums before separating in 1981.
the sweet had something, but didn't evolve quickly enough
their early to mid 70s stuff, excellent and fully in keeping with the style of the times, Love Is Like....was cool but was really (as far as hits were concerned) their swansong
slade were fun and noddy is a great british institution...their obsession with mis-spelled titles became a bit tired quickly. take the point about their "sound" - but there's a very curious drum sound on one of their later hits "c'est la vie"[/QUOTE]
Hi brENsKi
Sweet deserted the UK and had only 1 concert on the UK mainland between 1975 and 1979 (inclusive). They focussed heavily on breaking into the US with huge tours in 1976 and 1978. In between they also released the 1977 album Off the Record, which was barely promoted at all and wasn't supported by a tour despie being quite a good album.
Love is Like Oxygen was an interesting return for them in 1978 and might have heralded a new era for the band. But sadly Brian Connolly had developed a drinking problem and was sacked at the end of the year during the making of Cut Above The Rest. That album is one of my favourites, but without Brian it sank like stone and effectively meant the end of the classical lineup of the band as a mega selling act. However before leaving, Brian put down a couple of demos, one of which called "That Girl" may have been the next single. Check it out here> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGScl0Kftzo
The remaining three members limped on for two more albums before separating in 1981.
I've known very little about Sweet until now, thanks for bringing it to my attention, guys. Maybe I'll find a new musical interest.
As for whether or not Queen ripped off Sweet or whatever: who the hell cares? No ideas are original at this point.
Also, on the forum one person said he didn't really care for the sound of Freddy's voice (I cringe whenever I see that) or Brian's guitar. He referred to it as an "acquired taste." Thought that was interesting.
They do...wink a lot.
I don't see the problem with reviving a really old thread as long as what you're adding is actually useful.
Someday, maybe I will be like one of the great Deities on this site.
Sigh....
Maybe someday....
As for whether or not Queen ripped off Sweet or whatever: who the hell cares? No ideas are original at this point.
Also, on the forum one person said he didn't really care for the sound of Freddy's voice (I cringe whenever I see that) or Brian's guitar. He referred to it as an "acquired taste." Thought that was interesting.
sir john wrote:
"Queen Are A Bunch Of Winkers"
They do...wink a lot.
brENsKi wrote:
well done on reviving a 7½ yr dead, thread
if you wanted to talk abou the Sweet why not start a new one?
this has to be a new "regurgitate expired stuff" world record.... even Howard Carter, on breaking into Tutankhamun's tomb in 1922 found something newer than this thread
I don't see the problem with reviving a really old thread as long as what you're adding is actually useful.
Lostman wrote:
I wonder if he's ever going to achieve "Deity" status.
Someday, maybe I will be like one of the great Deities on this site.
Sigh....
Maybe someday....
Hi Waunakonor
Did you go ahead and get into some Sweet? Hope you did mate. They were very special. They are touring the UK in October/November with Slade, so they would be worth going to see as well.
Did you go ahead and get into some Sweet? Hope you did mate. They were very special. They are touring the UK in October/November with Slade, so they would be worth going to see as well.
Hi again Waunakonor
Just as a bit more of a tempter, here is Sweet's Action. Its a real screamer, and a helluva classic as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6JIMWhERbA
Just as a bit more of a tempter, here is Sweet's Action. Its a real screamer, and a helluva classic as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6JIMWhERbA
Ah! It took me a bit to figure out what you were talking about on the Man on the Prowl forum.
Hi Heavenite:
I've checked out a bunch of tracks on Youtube since I posted that. I generally like what I hear, and Action is a damn good song.
Lots of backing vocals, I like that of course.
I'll probably buy an album or two off itunes, and if I get really interested I may start buying some tangible albums (CDs and such). That's pretty much what I did when I was first getting into Queen.
Thanks for that. Glad I got into them.
Hi Heavenite:
I've checked out a bunch of tracks on Youtube since I posted that. I generally like what I hear, and Action is a damn good song.
Lots of backing vocals, I like that of course.
I'll probably buy an album or two off itunes, and if I get really interested I may start buying some tangible albums (CDs and such). That's pretty much what I did when I was first getting into Queen.
Thanks for that. Glad I got into them.
Excellent! Glad to hear it Waunakonor. I guess the thing most people would do when deciding whether they liked a band would be to get a greatest hits album. The one I would suggest is called the complete a's and b sides, as most of the b-sides never appeared on an album and are where a lot of the playing is.
Although if you're pretty confident you like the band, maybe you can go straight to an album as well. If you're going to get an album (or get both), I would suggest the first album you get is Off the Record. Its a fun album with lots of variety and playing on it. The reason I suggest that one is its about Sweet in the middle. They got a whole lot softer on Level Headed and a whole lot heavier on Give Us A Wink. Its also a very popular album among Sweet's fans, largely I think because of its tunefuleness and also the band's great playing. The one to avoid initially is Desolation Boulevard (UK version) as it was released six months after Sweet Fanny Adams and isn't very well produced and was a bit incomplete I think. Its still got a few absolute crackers on it though.
Anyway lots (but not all) people that love Sweet also love Queen and recently I have discovered on here that it seems to go both ways. Hope you're one of them mate.
Although if you're pretty confident you like the band, maybe you can go straight to an album as well. If you're going to get an album (or get both), I would suggest the first album you get is Off the Record. Its a fun album with lots of variety and playing on it. The reason I suggest that one is its about Sweet in the middle. They got a whole lot softer on Level Headed and a whole lot heavier on Give Us A Wink. Its also a very popular album among Sweet's fans, largely I think because of its tunefuleness and also the band's great playing. The one to avoid initially is Desolation Boulevard (UK version) as it was released six months after Sweet Fanny Adams and isn't very well produced and was a bit incomplete I think. Its still got a few absolute crackers on it though.
Anyway lots (but not all) people that love Sweet also love Queen and recently I have discovered on here that it seems to go both ways. Hope you're one of them mate.
naturally, many bands sound like other bands, and it's always hard to say - in an era when many bands wer starting out at the same time - who actually influenced who?
anyway, the sweet and queen do sound very alike in places, which is probably why i find i liked the sweet when growing up in the 70s....
some of sabbaths (dio) stuff verges into early queen territory also - die young, heaven and hell, children of the sea
also if you want to try something a little different - but with a definite queen feel - try a band called storm....the two albums i have are called (imaginatively but not unlike queen) "storm" and storm II" - they're a fusion of queen and zep i think and although the albums come from 79 and 83, they have a disctinctive early 70s feel
anyway, the sweet and queen do sound very alike in places, which is probably why i find i liked the sweet when growing up in the 70s....
some of sabbaths (dio) stuff verges into early queen territory also - die young, heaven and hell, children of the sea
also if you want to try something a little different - but with a definite queen feel - try a band called storm....the two albums i have are called (imaginatively but not unlike queen) "storm" and storm II" - they're a fusion of queen and zep i think and although the albums come from 79 and 83, they have a disctinctive early 70s feel