>The Who did the same.....
Err......no they didn't. They didn't actually *RECORD* a lot of what they did in the studio - they would warm up and rehearse around the home demos that Pete (and John) brought into the studio and then they would begin cutting a master for each track - there were very few "takes" actually committed to tape.
The Who's archive is also in the same kind of state as Queens - missing masters etc, but there is a WEALTH of material lying around, tht simply no one within the organisation really cares about. EG - A Quick One (Happy Jack) was re-mastered in 1995 (from memory) using mix-down tapes that resided in the band's archive. It was well-known that the Stereo masters were sitting in the archive of Polydor in Germany but NO ONE COULD BE BOTHERED to have them brought over to Polydor UK. I was working for TNT at the time and even offered for them to be collected from there and delivered to the UK FOC, but had the offer ignored. AQO only received it's Stereo re-mastering last year.
At the end of the day, bands regard this stuff as past history - some times the old material that was discarded is the subject of a lot of bad memories - ie it was rejected, but one member of the band may have felt very strongly about it being taken seriously at the time and caused arguements. That's absolutely fine and natural, but SURELY, this is the kind of thing that needs to be taken well out of the hands of the band and it's management so that fresh eyes / opinions can decide whether it is worthy of a band's name.
My ideal scenario would be for the rejected material / demos / alternate takes to be licenced out to specialist labels like Sanctuary or Castle. They then bring in a team of fans / band historians to then wade through the material and then release the results. These labels often do a FAR better job of this than the bigger labels, but the bigger labels also then receive the reward through the terms of the licence agreement.
But, you then get the labels that are overly protective and would never entertain anything as imaginative as that.....
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Lester: Methinks someone recalls a similar conversation on the alternative channel!
I think that merits a gold star award!
Indeed! I just felt too lazy to sift through the conversations on the alternative channel to find exactly what I had written.
You've got a good memory in yer noggin there, Mr Stuart!
BTW - the Innuendo track which opens the musical is nothing but a remix of Freddie's vocals , being played back to a well synchronized band.
If you listen to it there's no new voacl part (or harmonies) in this version.
The one thing I regret is the fact Queen didn't let any video cameras in the studio (except the millions times watched One Vision project).
The least the band could do after the tour finishes is to try to get their shit together about anything regards the boxset.
If you listen to it there's no new voacl part (or harmonies) in this version.
The one thing I regret is the fact Queen didn't let any video cameras in the studio (except the millions times watched One Vision project).
The least the band could do after the tour finishes is to try to get their shit together about anything regards the boxset.
The WWRY Version of Innuendo features vocals that aren't taken from the released version of Innuendo.
Great work, Dennis, but '75 box would be criticize too much - most of fans doesn't like things like 'Rare Live'...
Denny-boy!
And you'd be happy with a '75 DVD set like that? What you have there is nothing more than a rough VHS bootleg equivalent but on DVD. It's amateurish and would be a joke in the industry.
I think they're doing pretty well on the DVD front and the stuff about "the big public" (whatever you think that actually means) having to have WATC, BoRhap etc on a release is rubbish. Queen, as a brand, sells. Regardless of the material, they are a huge commercial property - and the DVD format is a wonderful medium for ANY of their live shows that were filmed.
Denny-Boy! You're not WKMahler (Billy-Boy!) in disguise are you?
And you'd be happy with a '75 DVD set like that? What you have there is nothing more than a rough VHS bootleg equivalent but on DVD. It's amateurish and would be a joke in the industry.
I think they're doing pretty well on the DVD front and the stuff about "the big public" (whatever you think that actually means) having to have WATC, BoRhap etc on a release is rubbish. Queen, as a brand, sells. Regardless of the material, they are a huge commercial property - and the DVD format is a wonderful medium for ANY of their live shows that were filmed.
Denny-Boy! You're not WKMahler (Billy-Boy!) in disguise are you?
Denny-Boy!
>Benn, everybody can say Denny-boy to me except for you, your not saying it with respect :P.
Really, I hadn't spotted that, but if you say so. I'll carry on calling you that just for fun as opposed to with or without respect.....
>What your saying isn't right
Really?
>Queen as a brand would sell yes, but the people want hits at least that's what i think.
So, based on the above, what you are saying *IS* right?
>I would love to place a bet. If they'd release the rainbow look wether it's going to be a hit. It's just do you think the people would like to pay 30 euro's for 50 minutes of DVD wich only includes 2 songs you'd know?
I will wager anything you like that WHATEVER Queen release on DVD it will top the music DVD release chart at some point and for however brief a period. Queen span a number of genres - people ONLY interested in early - mid-70's rock DVDs will by anything from Queen up to 1979. FACT. They are a huge name and people will buy things like that out of curiosity more than as collectors.
>...how Queen was in that year...
So you think putting in "clips" from the 1980's is representative of Queen in 1975?
Come on denny-Boy!
>Benn, everybody can say Denny-boy to me except for you, your not saying it with respect :P.
Really, I hadn't spotted that, but if you say so. I'll carry on calling you that just for fun as opposed to with or without respect.....
>What your saying isn't right
Really?
>Queen as a brand would sell yes, but the people want hits at least that's what i think.
So, based on the above, what you are saying *IS* right?
>I would love to place a bet. If they'd release the rainbow look wether it's going to be a hit. It's just do you think the people would like to pay 30 euro's for 50 minutes of DVD wich only includes 2 songs you'd know?
I will wager anything you like that WHATEVER Queen release on DVD it will top the music DVD release chart at some point and for however brief a period. Queen span a number of genres - people ONLY interested in early - mid-70's rock DVDs will by anything from Queen up to 1979. FACT. They are a huge name and people will buy things like that out of curiosity more than as collectors.
>...how Queen was in that year...
So you think putting in "clips" from the 1980's is representative of Queen in 1975?
Come on denny-Boy!
Dennis - whats the point in these imaginary boxsets you are posting up??
I've always thought it would be a good idea to release the majority of the footage they have only in the regions they were filmed, then people who really wanted them could buy them on import.... or the major chains could import them.
I've always thought it would be a good idea to release the majority of the footage they have only in the regions they were filmed, then people who really wanted them could buy them on import.... or the major chains could import them.
Creep,
Again, that will ever happen. If they were going to do that, they would have done it through Queenonline and offered them as simited releases. EMI / QPL still have a massive amount of money to make out of Queen and limiting something as widely commercially attractive as a live DVD would prevent them from making as much as possible out of the release. They'll make All DVD's available to ALL in ALL regions / territories.
Again, that will ever happen. If they were going to do that, they would have done it through Queenonline and offered them as simited releases. EMI / QPL still have a massive amount of money to make out of Queen and limiting something as widely commercially attractive as a live DVD would prevent them from making as much as possible out of the release. They'll make All DVD's available to ALL in ALL regions / territories.
Dennis, I'm sorry I don't agree with you. Freddie WAS at his top in the Earl's Court'77 show. His voice was in one of the best shapes ever. He was funny, he smiled and talked to the public, very entertaining, he sounded splendid and the three ohter guys were top shape as well. Besides that, the setlist is one of the best they ever had (I mean, I'm very fond of the A Day At The Races tour set list).
Hyde Park'76 - what do you mean they sounded incredibly false? It's true that the sound was different, because it all happened in a tent (and yes, the place were it's recorded does matter) and the worst thing is that even the master tape is not very good quality. But it was one of their most brilliant gigs ever. It's sad they weren't allowed to play all the songs from the usual set list and the encores...
Hyde Park'76 - what do you mean they sounded incredibly false? It's true that the sound was different, because it all happened in a tent (and yes, the place were it's recorded does matter) and the worst thing is that even the master tape is not very good quality. But it was one of their most brilliant gigs ever. It's sad they weren't allowed to play all the songs from the usual set list and the encores...
Greg Brooks should inform and do some more research.
If not Mr. Scully would like to replace him ! lol
The guy has far more knowlegde what;s on the planet concerning Queen Stuff!
If not Mr. Scully would like to replace him ! lol
The guy has far more knowlegde what;s on the planet concerning Queen Stuff!
Brianmay1975
Just remember that Denny-Boy! is delusional in the same way that WKMahler is and you'll get an understanding of where he's at - the guy's a fruit loop who has no idea about the commercial appeal of Queen releases world-wide.
Just remember that Denny-Boy! is delusional in the same way that WKMahler is and you'll get an understanding of where he's at - the guy's a fruit loop who has no idea about the commercial appeal of Queen releases world-wide.
Put it this way - it would be cheaper to release them this way also a live in the US release would do better in the US than it would over here etc etc.
For example: A while a go he was asking on BrianMay.com if anyone had got a copy of the BBC seven seas of Rhye. I think everybody on the HUB, including me, were laughing about his question because the file is on the hub for quite a time.
He could have used rhat one for the greatest video hits dvd 1.
I think he was referring to a broadcast quality version and not the version that Rien had on his site, for instance (I am assuming of course that that is same file in the hub)
I think he was referring to a broadcast quality version and not the version that Rien had on his site, for instance (I am assuming of course that that is same file in the hub)
There is no broadcast quality available because the BBC ( British Butt Corps) removed it from their archive.
( That's not the way you threat Queen material)
There is no broadcast quality available because the BBC ( British Butt Corps) removed it from their archive.
( That's not the way you threat Queen material)