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Serry Funster wrote:
Queen always does the same mistake - they (especially Brian) are trying to explain why they did this or that! Sun City, Rome show etc. - and explanations always are terrible! "You can dance and sing in the day I die" - it's something what I'd preffer not hear at all... I'm not sure if Roger nor Brian sung and danced when Freddie's dead!

Do what you want to and have to do because of your contracts and don't explain it!


1st, I agree that when Freddie died, or in the analogies of when Princess Diana died, or IF Queen Elizabeth had ever died, I truly don't think that Brian & Roger would have continued to hold the concert. If anything, because of their own grief (yes..when it applies to Brian & Roger...I realize they had no personal feelings for The Pope unlike Freddie or Diana..but that is irrelevant),they should have cancelled out of respect for other people's grief.

2nd. I still think no matter what, that Sun City was while I am sure not done out of anything other than sheer lack of common sense...it caused ---YEARS--- of repercussions that Brian & Roger & Queen have to constantly go on the defensive of, do damage control, explain themselves, re-explain themselves over & over, do charity work as a sign of their apology, etc. etc. yes it did hurt their career. I cannot believe that they learned NOTHING from that experience.

This is Not even a case of that the Queen fans with tickets to the Rome concert thought it was fine to continue to hold the concert in Rome, that MANY of us Queenzoners think it was fine, that many people around the world think it was fine. Well alot of people thought Sun City was fine...but alot of people did NOT think it was fine, and took exception to it and have used it to scapegoat and tear Queen down to THIS DAY.

It's a matter of GOOD COMMON SENSE and GOOD PUBLIC RELATIONS, GOOD PERSONAL JUDGEMENT, and GOOD BUSINESS SENSE, like it or not, even if they lost alot of money on cancelling the gig...to cancel the gig and reschedule it later. Brian & Roger have now set themselves up and opened themselves up to another can of worms where ANYONE with an agenda to blacklist or attack them...now has plenty of artillery...

How could they place themselves in so vulnerable a position?

Also, I TOTALLY agree that the Pope did alot of good especially this Pope.

However the Pope did alot of BAD things too, I agree his "Forgiveness and absolvement" of the pedophile criminal priests worldwide, his condemnation of gays (and therefore Freddie's sexual orientation), his condemnation of birth control, his condemnation of women as priests, his cndemnation of same sex marriages, and ESPECIALLY his condemnation of the use of condoms which would have helped stall the spread of AIDS and therefore SAVE MILLIONS of lives worldwide...was Lucicrous, insidious, and out of the dark ages.

But The Vatican, is as alot of you know and said, a city unto itself, and The Pope is it's ACTUAL PRESIDENT/LEADER. If Brian & Roger had been scheduled to play in any nation in the world the week that that nation's leader died, they also probably would have cancelled.

I....am Jewish.--- I TOTALLY disagree with ALOT of what the Pope stands for and did. But...I understand to RESPECT other religions' and nations' cultures.

Brian & Roger can hate the Pope for all I care. It would NOT have been hypocritical to cancel the concert. It would have shown the world...that they learned from Sun City...and showed RESPECT for the views of others, whether or not Brian & Roger do, or do NOT agree with or observe those views...but playing the concert showed total disrespect and a TOTAL lack of good judgement on their part.

I am VERY concerned that again, ANYONE with an Agenda to attack them, now has plenty of reason to twist this and use this against them...
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Queen show in Rome after Pope dies

Shame,shame,shame

NO MORE QUEEN+PAUL ROGERS!!!!!!!
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Oh for fucks sake ralf- now you're gonna make an idiot of yourself HERE as well...? You're fucking boring, you know...?
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For the others- ralf I know from different noticeboard, Polish one... Extremely boring and repetitive individual... You're gonna get now at least 20 posts with pretty much the same message...
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=696327 Wanna trade? Here's my list...
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jasen101 wrote:
i think they should have a party to celebrate the fact that the old bastard is finally dead.




What a nice, cheery comment.....maybe one would say the same thing about you when you die...
GO, GO, GO LITTLE QUEENIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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I totally agree with arlene

Many of you criticise the Pope for his being conservative. I think that he was as liberal as he could be. Remember that the Church is itself conservative as a whole. He couldn't turn the Church upside down during only 25 years, especially if it had existed in this form for almost 2000 years. If he had been too liberal it would have been a revolution and hardly any revolution ends without "bloodshed". It is very simple to say what the Pope should have done but it is not so simple to do it.
Punctuality is the thief of time
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And one more thing.
I don't accept what Brian and Roger did. I don't know whether Freddie would have allowed this or not and I don't care about it. It's a matter of decency and of some conventions to conform to the worldwide mourning.
Punctuality is the thief of time
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Kevin Spacey wrote:
And one more thing.
I don't accept what Brian and Roger did. I don't know whether Freddie would have allowed this or not and I don't care about it. It's a matter of decency and of some conventions to conform to the worldwide mourning.



Uh-oh, watch out, you will be slammed for this opinion :-)
GO, GO, GO LITTLE QUEENIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm shivering all over ;)
Punctuality is the thief of time
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I'm shivering all over ;)
Punctuality is the thief of time
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I know, right?!! I agree with you, but heaven (no pun intended) forbid I state that in this forum....they tried to spit me up and throw me out - notice I said "tried"...hahahaha!
GO, GO, GO LITTLE QUEENIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know that you're with me :) it was to THEM ;)
(by the way sorry for the double post above)
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Kevin Spacey wrote:
I totally agree with arlene

Many of you criticise the Pope for his being conservative. I think that he was as liberal as he could be. Remember that the Church is itself conservative as a whole. He couldn't turn the Church upside down during only 25 years, especially if it had existed in this form for almost 2000 years. If he had been too liberal it would have been a revolution and hardly any revolution ends without "bloodshed". It is very simple to say what the Pope should have done but it is not so simple to do it.


Well no, JP2 was much more conservative than the two popes who came before him (not counting JP1 who lasted just over a month). He got the church off the liberal course that it had been on.

This is ofcourse beside the point, I think that Q+PR should have played even though the pope had been liberal.
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Óli Gneisti Sóleyjarson wrote:
Kevin Spacey wrote:
I totally agree with arlene

Many of you criticise the Pope for his being conservative. I think that he was as liberal as he could be. Remember that the Church is itself conservative as a whole. He couldn't turn the Church upside down during only 25 years, especially if it had existed in this form for almost 2000 years. If he had been too liberal it would have been a revolution and hardly any revolution ends without "bloodshed". It is very simple to say what the Pope should have done but it is not so simple to do it.


Well no, JP2 was much more conservative than the two popes who came before him (not counting JP1 who lasted just over a month). He got the church off the liberal course that it had been on.

This is ofcourse beside the point, I think that Q+PR should have played even though the pope had been liberal.


Kevin, thanks but the one thing you didn't see in my post was that while I thought this Pope DID do some good things, I ALSO thought he did some irresponsible BAD things...please re-read my post.
I said that Brian & Roger may not agree or approve of this Pope..but that out of respsect for those that DID approve of this Pope or "The" Pope, that they should have cancelled the Rome show.

But I thought this Pope did some Terrible, archaic things.
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I DID read your post and I still agree with you. I also think that criticising people for using condoms is archaic and wrong. I only wanted to draw people's attention to some other things which he did.
Punctuality is the thief of time
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Freddie would never have made this mistake.As everyone here knows he was given full Zoroastrian rites when he died.Traditionaly, Zoroastrianism has been opposed to homosexuality for longer than the Catholic Church has been in exsistence.Pope John Paul II has had Zoroastrian leaders in Italy along with so many others.
I never even meant to get into any of these arguments other than to say two members have dragged the name of Queen to a place that's just embarrassing.If Freddie had that much respect for his parent's religion you can be sure he would for the greatest funeral the world has ever seen.