Do they believe in God?

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Scott_Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I have a real hard time believing any member of Queen is atheiest.

Most people who have attained a high level of success usually don't just feel they "lucked out".

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What *are* you on about? What does feeling that someone "lucked out" have to do with atheism?

I'll answer you since you obviously don't know. The answer in nothing. Atheism has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with luck, success or any form of life satisfaction.

Atheism is purely a belief that God does not exist. Atheists are not nihilists. Atheists can be very moral, loving, balanced, emotional, even very spiritual. They just don't believe in God. Of course, individual atheists will have many individuals beliefs and leanings (even nihilism), but the core definition remains.

Religion, as far as I'm concerned, is a despicable waste of time, and I think Roger would totally agree with me on that one...

I personally don't care at all what any member of Queen thinks / thought about religion. I'm just interested in the music.

Arlene Wrote:

Freddie I know used to pray at bedtime according to Jim, and though Freddie's born faith from his family was Zoroastrian, (which was followed for his funeral), he celebrated Christmas..with his family and friends from what I've heard. I don't think he practiced any specific religion, but I think Freddie was deeply spiritual and belived in God and had faith.

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I didn't know Freddie beleived, probably he got closer to the faith when he realised he was going to die. The truth is that Brian says that Freddie wrote the song "the miracle" because he wanted to believe that it was possible that a miracle saved his life.

I have the idea, however, that in the early days he didn't beleive and in fact, after liestening to songs like "Seven seas of Rhye" it seems like a flirt with devil.

If Freddie had been an atheist why then he wrote such TRULY RELIGIOUS songs like:
*Liar (looks like the prayer to God)
*Jesus (Freddie almost retells the Bible)
*Mad The Swine
*My Fairy King (I know that the real zoroastrians say that this song is dedicated to the zoroastrian God - Ahura Mazda - and is full of zoroastrian religious signs)
*All God's People
etc.
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I Believe in Freddie! ;)

I know That Freddie was Zoroastrian, I read In Ahundova Book That Brian, Roger and John are Anglicans, Probably they Believe in God all Powerfull and in Jesus, but they are not an religeous exhivicionist, they Believe and love God in their own way.. not like the people who makes a propaganda about the religion and etc etc, I think the Catholic religion and others have many protocols,and many of them contains nonsense things that made people quit this religion, there are no inscription in the Bible or that Rock music is the EVIL music, where religious people take that atrocity from?, is a Sin lie? is a Sin judge without know?, is not a sin love every people and every creatures of the earth without judge, without any discrimination.... ROGER IS RIGHT in his song The Key "A Sensible Religion Is A Contradiction In Terms". . . Loving God is doing good acts!and not doing Bad things to yourself and others... thats simple! Religions are protocols, is like everything is bad in excess!! The Church are poluted by sinners!!

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think John is atheist (at least that's my conclusion) because on www.deaky.com in an interview he states he doesn't believe in any form of afterlife.[/QUOTE]

Just because someone doesn't believe in an afterlife doesn't mean they deny the existence of some kind of God or higher power.

Beautiful article, Arlene!

Which is precisely why I said "my conclusion." I agree that the statement doesn't marry him to atheism with absolute certainty; however, it makes it far more likely than otherwise.

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I think you can't write such marvellous, heartfelt songs about God and the spiritual aspects of life if you don't believe, or at least hope, in a superior being.

If you listen closely to the messages of his songs, you can see that Freddie is a very spiritual person - he was even in the early years, but probably his illness brought him closer to these aspects of life. I think it happens to most people: when times get hard that's when we turn our attention to something that goes beyond our earthly life.

I love you Freddie!

Fairy

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think you can't write such marvellous, heartfelt songs about God and the spiritual aspects of life if you don't believe, or at least hope, in a superior being.

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I think when you DON'T believe in God, an afterlife, rebirth or anything like that, you can (as just as easily as anyone else) write incredibly deep, heartfelt songs about life itself, because then it has even more value. How many overly religous folk have one foot on Earth and one in Heaven / Paradise?

Sprituality is not about God or religion. It is about the unknown, the mysterious, the deepness within humankind. It requires no belief in anything except the wonderousness of life itself.

Is Roger really an atheist? I do know that he does not like organized religion. But does that mean he isn't spiritual? I was raised a Catholic but I haven't followed that or any organized religion for many years. But I never lost faith. I am spiritual just not religious.

It doesn't matter to me if any member of Queen did, or did NOT believe in God. How a person lives and practices their life and treats others while in this life is what matters.

Also I agree that just because someone does NOT believe in an afterlife (which many religions do not), does not necessarily make them atheist.

And just because someone is atheist, does not mean they are not a spiritual, good person.

Also...alot of so called religious people, whatever religion or God they follow, since they DO believe there is an afterlife, they use that as an excuse to treat people terrible and live their lives as nihilists because they figure, what the hell, I will live again anyhow...so I can do whatever I want, no matter how awful now.

Look at some of the Catholic doctrine where as long as a Priest gives you last rites and you confess, it absolves you of everything bad you have done.

Look at Judaism where if every year you atone for your sins on Yom Kippur, it absolves you of everything bad you did all year.

And on and on with many religions.

(BTW I am Jewish and I love God, but I abhor alot of hypcrasy in my own religion). But I am very spiritual and I do beleive in God, but I really don't practice my religion per say.

I think overall, if Freddie, Brian, Roger, & John practice their lives treating people and this world as they themselves wish to be treated...with humanity and kindness, that's what matters.

Look how Brian & Roger have launched a personal crusade to fight and find a cure for AIDS with their ongoing charity work with Nelson Mandela, The Mercury Phoenix Trust, & The Terrance Higgins Trust.

Look how Freddie & John & the whole band when they were together in 1986, donated some of the money from The Magic Tour to charity (I forget which of the concerts..in June 86 I think).

Look how all of Queen participated in Live Aid, Freddie at Fashion Aid, Brian & Roger donated money from the 1000th performance of WWRY to the Tsunami Relief.

God...and spirituality, are by example and deed. Some people think God is alive and a part of humanity....and I think the members of Queen definitely have more than given back to and graced humanity by example and deed...so that's good enough for me.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rabid Wolverine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Freddie mentioned God in a lot of his songs, so it's my personal belif and feelings that he did believe in God he just didn't feel like getting bogged down with an organized religion like others here have pointed out, he probably felt that they were all corrupt and misleading or something. I hate religion. I'm with Roger on the evangelical zealot types they are a bunch of pushy morons, but it doesn't mean he doesnt believe in God, I believe and like I said I detest organized religion. Also how does anyone know what John thought, he barely spoke and made his feelings known about anything.[/QUOTE]

You're right on target. I am fed up with organized religion and its hypocritical, corrupt doctrine as well. But I have faith, I believe in and I love God.

Yes, Freddie did mention God quite a bit in his songs from Jesus to The Miracle, to Innuendo. And as I said, according to Jim Hutton & Peter Freestone, Freddie prayed nightly. We have no right to judge Freddie, John, Brian, or Roger by who or what or if they believe in God or practice religion.

We can judge them as I said in my post above, by their word and deed as wonderful people who give back, who use their music not only to entertain and heal (which is fine in and of itself for its spiritual, uplifting gifts), but for the endless humanitarian acts that they selflessly give. They have human failings as we all all do...but they TRY to do and usually DO the RIGHT thing as good people. They constantly give of themselves to others to make this world a better place. That's what elevates them in my eyes and heart.

I saw a movie once where someone said, judge with your HEART, not with your eyes. Well, I judge Freddie, Brian, Roger, & John with my heart...by their hearts. :)

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]djaef wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think you can't write such marvellous, heartfelt songs about God and the spiritual aspects of life if you don't believe, or at least hope, in a superior being.

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I think when you DON'T believe in God, an afterlife, rebirth or anything like that, you can (as just as easily as anyone else) write incredibly deep, heartfelt songs about life itself, because then it has even more value. How many overly religous folk have one foot on Earth and one in Heaven / Paradise?

Sprituality is not about God or religion. It is about the unknown, the mysterious, the deepness within humankind. It requires no belief in anything except the wonderousness of life itself.[/QUOTE]
You have a good point. Maybe I'm wrong...I just have this feeling that anyone who is so sensitive to the wonders of life, who perceives that there is something wonderful and mysterious about it, and who praises all the miracles of nature so wholeheartedly, should somehow at least hope that everything is planned and governed by a superior being or force, with or without an afterlife. I don't mean official religions. I don't follow any official religion, but I'm highly spiritual.

All God's People is probably the song that tells us the most about how Freddie may have felt about God, at leastin his final years.

Fairy

And about Brian: he wrote Teo Toriatte. Could it mean anything about his views of God or the afterlife?

Ps. Some have pointed out that it doesn't matter how Queen members feel about God. Of course that's their own business! It doesn't change anything for us, but it's interesting to know their views anyhow.

Fairy