Real heroes don't need documentries to do their work. Most hereos go unnoticed. But what a surprise good ol' Bob likes to brag about what he has done. He will need a new cap soon for that even bigger head of his.
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Real heroes don't need documentries to do their work. Most hereos go unnoticed. But what a surprise good ol' Bob likes to brag about what he has done. He will need a new cap soon for that even bigger head of his.
Scuse me again...but don't Brian & Roger regularly crow and herald about their work with Nelson Mandela? Brian regularly posts updates about he & Roger's work with the 46664 campaign on Brian's website and on the Queen website. That's called publicity dunderhead.
If people don't know about 46664 and the many charity events, DVD's, downloads that Brian & Roger do on behalf of 46664 for AIDS....as the old saying goes..if you hold a show and nobody KNOWS about it..noone comes. Well Brian crows non stop on his website..for the RIGHT reasons, and also on queenonline, for the RIGHT reasons. So people will be aware of he and Roger's work on behalf of AIDS and 46664, and donate money, and spend money at the charity concerts, buying the DVD's, the downloads...so the money can go to help fight and find a cure for AIDS.
There is a subtle difference between spreading the word and just plain bragging. Sadly, Bob falls into the latter category.
I also will admit that Geldof and Bono do come across as arrogant and braggarts...but again, excuse me...I may not always agree with their tactics, but...it works for them more than any other music artist doing charity work.
Who else but Geldof cursing and yelling on Intenational TV "Give Us Your F*****G Money" at Live Aid, could have rounded up dozens of MUCH bigger ego ridden rock stars, told them to "park your egos at the door" and pull off an International concert held in 2 continents, simultaneously, for over 12 hours, with hundreds of technical crews, TV & Radio crews, music techs, stage hands, without a hitch, and never ONCE have you ever heard of any of those rock stars giving him, the promoters, or the cause of the day ANY crap.
And to this day, all of the charity work that Geldof and Bono do, same thing, when they ask for other music artists to get involved, there is NO infighting, no squabbling, every one does their part for the cause at hand. Being Mr. Nice Polite Guy doesn't necessarily get you anywhere.
I have said on other topics that I personally believe Geldof has one hell of a HUGE heart. He uses the outward facade of an arrogant SOB to keep people organized and get the job, the charity event, done. But I think he is a wonderful person.
....When was the last time you got off your soap box, stopped ranting about Geldof's and Bono's arrogance, and did some charity work of your own?
And before you jump down MY throat buster...watch out. I have donated my services to many local causes from Senior Citizen Homes, to The American Cancer Society to AIDS, and in the early 90's when I managed and booked 2 local bands...I insisted they play charity benefit gigs, yes, for the cause. One was even for a battered women's shelter. One was also for The American Cancer Society. They griped and said they didn't want to do it. But I told them, showing a little selflessness, humility, and doing a good thing well that should be the only reason and for the right reason. So they did it.
Who else but Geldof cursing and yelling on Intenational TV "Give Us Your F*****G Money" at Live Aid, could have rounded up dozens of MUCH bigger ego ridden rock stars, told them to "park your egos at the door" and pull off an International concert held in 2 continents, simultaneously, for over 12 hours, with hundreds of technical crews, TV & Radio crews, music techs, stage hands, without a hitch, and never ONCE have you ever heard of any of those rock stars giving him, the promoters, or the cause of the day ANY crap.
And to this day, all of the charity work that Geldof and Bono do, same thing, when they ask for other music artists to get involved, there is NO infighting, no squabbling, every one does their part for the cause at hand. Being Mr. Nice Polite Guy doesn't necessarily get you anywhere.
I have said on other topics that I personally believe Geldof has one hell of a HUGE heart. He uses the outward facade of an arrogant SOB to keep people organized and get the job, the charity event, done. But I think he is a wonderful person.
....When was the last time you got off your soap box, stopped ranting about Geldof's and Bono's arrogance, and did some charity work of your own?
And before you jump down MY throat buster...watch out. I have donated my services to many local causes from Senior Citizen Homes, to The American Cancer Society to AIDS, and in the early 90's when I managed and booked 2 local bands...I insisted they play charity benefit gigs, yes, for the cause. One was even for a battered women's shelter. One was also for The American Cancer Society. They griped and said they didn't want to do it. But I told them, showing a little selflessness, humility, and doing a good thing well that should be the only reason and for the right reason. So they did it.
None of you know anything about these people. Have you met them? Stop arguing, it's presumptuous and below decent people.
Oh wait. I'm at Queenzone.
Oh wait. I'm at Queenzone.
Why don't we just back to the subject...which is...wouldn't it be great..if Geldof invited Brian, Roger, & Paul Rodgers to play Live 8?
Jim Beach, Brian, Roger, Paul..hope you're out there....maybe they read QZ & I'm sure THEY DO care about this cause and would be thrilled to be a part of it.
Jim Beach, Brian, Roger, Paul..hope you're out there....maybe they read QZ & I'm sure THEY DO care about this cause and would be thrilled to be a part of it.
Point number one:
When food arrives to starving people in Africa they don´t really care if it was sent by a person with honest feelings about it or not. The point is- LIVE AID SAVED MILLIONS OF LIVES, and instead of putting Bob Geldof down you should thank God for the food you have everyday. So, even if you don´t agree, at least don´t try to stop an event, that in the end will save lives.
Point number two:
If you say Live Aid was made to boost Bob Gueldof career, let me ask you- What career?
One thing is for shore, if there was an artist that boosted their career with Live Aid that artist was QUEEN, Bowie, U2; etc. I never saw Bob Gueldof´s career any stronguer after Live Aid, in fact, his career as a singuer was over because people associates him with humanitarion causes.
Point number Three:
It seems to me that a lot of people are trying to make the Queen members something thei´re not. Let me explain:
When compared to other artist or person, Queen ALLWAYS do the better thing! They just can´t be wrong. It´s like thei´re some kind of angels living among us- THE SINNERS!!
Let me tell you something- Thei´re not perfect either, and if you wanna discuss charity i really don´t think that to put Queen against Bob Gueldof or U2 and say that Queen were the onlyones who really cares is a good thing to say.
In my opinion they only do charity because Freddie died of AIDS, but what have they donne while Freddie was still in the business?- NOTHING.
You can say that they played for Kamputcheia or donne LIVE AID, but that was the easiest thing. To go on stage and play it´s easy, but to guive up on your life to put something so monumental in action in an era before the internet or the cell phones, that is pure charity!
Queen never used their name to put something like this in action before Freddie´s death, so what was the point of their success?
This is a forum to discuss their music, but somehow people try to make them better humans than everyone else including ourselves, and i don´t think that´s fair bacause a lot of people work really hard at humanitary causes. We´re all humans with our bad things and our good things and as Roger Taylor once said: "I´m not better than the man next door".
Take care
When food arrives to starving people in Africa they don´t really care if it was sent by a person with honest feelings about it or not. The point is- LIVE AID SAVED MILLIONS OF LIVES, and instead of putting Bob Geldof down you should thank God for the food you have everyday. So, even if you don´t agree, at least don´t try to stop an event, that in the end will save lives.
Point number two:
If you say Live Aid was made to boost Bob Gueldof career, let me ask you- What career?
One thing is for shore, if there was an artist that boosted their career with Live Aid that artist was QUEEN, Bowie, U2; etc. I never saw Bob Gueldof´s career any stronguer after Live Aid, in fact, his career as a singuer was over because people associates him with humanitarion causes.
Point number Three:
It seems to me that a lot of people are trying to make the Queen members something thei´re not. Let me explain:
When compared to other artist or person, Queen ALLWAYS do the better thing! They just can´t be wrong. It´s like thei´re some kind of angels living among us- THE SINNERS!!
Let me tell you something- Thei´re not perfect either, and if you wanna discuss charity i really don´t think that to put Queen against Bob Gueldof or U2 and say that Queen were the onlyones who really cares is a good thing to say.
In my opinion they only do charity because Freddie died of AIDS, but what have they donne while Freddie was still in the business?- NOTHING.
You can say that they played for Kamputcheia or donne LIVE AID, but that was the easiest thing. To go on stage and play it´s easy, but to guive up on your life to put something so monumental in action in an era before the internet or the cell phones, that is pure charity!
Queen never used their name to put something like this in action before Freddie´s death, so what was the point of their success?
This is a forum to discuss their music, but somehow people try to make them better humans than everyone else including ourselves, and i don´t think that´s fair bacause a lot of people work really hard at humanitary causes. We´re all humans with our bad things and our good things and as Roger Taylor once said: "I´m not better than the man next door".
Take care
Point number one:
When food arrives to starving people in Africa they don´t really care if it was sent by a person with honest feelings about it or not. The point is- LIVE AID SAVED MILLIONS OF LIVES, and instead of putting Bob Geldof down you should thank God for the food you have everyday. So, even if you don´t agree, at least don´t try to stop an event, that in the end will save lives.
Point number two:
If you say Live Aid was made to boost Bob Gueldof career, let me ask you- What career?
One thing is for shore, if there was an artist that boosted their career with Live Aid that artist was QUEEN, Bowie, U2; etc. I never saw Bob Gueldof´s career any stronguer after Live Aid, in fact, his career as a singuer was over because people associates him with humanitarion causes.
Point number Three:
It seems to me that a lot of people are trying to make the Queen members something thei´re not. Let me explain:
When compared to other artist or person, Queen ALLWAYS do the better thing! They just can´t be wrong. It´s like thei´re some kind of angels living among us- THE SINNERS!!
Let me tell you something- Thei´re not perfect either, and if you wanna discuss charity i really don´t think that to put Queen against Bob Gueldof or U2 and say that Queen were the onlyones who really cares is a good thing to say.
In my opinion they only do charity because Freddie died of AIDS, but what have they donne while Freddie was still in the business?- NOTHING.
You can say that they played for Kamputcheia or donne LIVE AID, but that was the easiest thing. To go on stage and play it´s easy, but to guive up on your life to put something so monumental in action in an era before the internet or the cell phones, that is pure charity!
Queen never used their name to put something like this in action before Freddie´s death, so what was the point of their success?
This is a forum to discuss their music, but somehow people try to make them better humans than everyone else including ourselves, and i don´t think that´s fair bacause a lot of people work really hard at humanitary causes. We´re all humans with our bad things and our good things and as Roger Taylor once said: "I´m not better than the man next door".
Take care
Thanks Bobby, I totally agree with everything you said. Read all of my posts, especially the one where I said about how Queen's career benefitted most from Live Aid, as you also said, and of course all the wonderful things I said about Geldof.
And yes, I spoke about how just less than a year prior to Live Aid, Queen had done major damage to their career playing Sun City...and alot of people view Queen playing Live Aid, at least somewhat...as damage control.
And, yes I agree, that they did not get actively involved with AIDS benefits, things like 46664 with Nelson Mandela, The Terrance Higgins Trust, The Mercury Pheonix Trust...til it hit home and one of their own...Freddie. THEN...they became actively involved with AIDS charities.
One last note, I adore Queen with all of my heart for their music, and for the work they NOW do for charity...whatever their motives or agendas...perhaps due to Freddie's death from AIDS.
But as heroes and humanitarians go...and alot of QZ rags on me for this...rag all the hell you F*n want..But Bob Geldof is MY hero above any celebrity that has worked his ever lovin' ass off for 20 years, again repeatedly going...in person... to war torn, third world countries ridden with filth, plague, famine, cholera, ebola, rats, no running water..risking his own life, to help people in these countries who have no food, no clean/safe water, no shelter, no proper medical care.
He basically has not had much of a music career since The Boomtown Rats split, some solo albums here and there..which I have and LOVE...and whatever career Geldof ha