check out Deacon's camp walk!

Farlander wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Well whatever Lennon in his mind thought he was...cause he sure as hell couldn't make up his mind...the only well known relationship he had with a man that I am aware of is Epstein.

I mean there was no "torrid, lengthy affair." It was a single incident that may have happened, which seems to have been highly exagerated if so. From what I know of it, it was Epstein.

Also..not to burst your bubble...but actor Robert Wagner..Mr. suave Hart To Hart detective, never a word of scandal, he was married to Natalie Wood, twice. The first time they were married they were in their early twenties. She came home early one day and found him in the shower...with another...man, and divorced him! When I heard that, when and after she Remarried him years later because she still loved him, I was floored! I NEVER would have thought...Robert Wagner!

OK, I cannot for the life of me figure out what Robert Wagner has to do with this, but...I have never heard of that, and I cannot find a source for it. From what I can find, there marriage was troubled because things were difficult for Wagner's career at the time, and Wood was having difficulties of her own, apparently under suspension with Warner Bros. This lead to the divorce.

Where did you hear this shower thing from?

One of Natalie's daughters, I forget which one, wrote an authorized Biography (and it's not a tell all, it's a fond, loving remembrance of her mother), I think it was Natasha.

But you would be amazed at how many music or acting artists are gay or bi. I don't care as I love them for their work. But they keep it quiet to protect their careers. One that floored me most was one of my all time favorite actors...ever Burt Lancaster..who indeed was a Big time Ladies man who could out womanize Roger. His authorized Biography came out last year, and his family and children sanctioned it..and it mentioned the many MALE lovers he also had. Actually I was dissapointed NOT because I care if he was Bi or straight...I guess I was just taken aback. Talk about super macho and many Hollywood women from Shelly Winters to Deborah Kerr talk about what a great lover he was..well I guess he was at that, just I guess I have to make my mind set that a man can be a great lover with women...and with men.

I'm VERY openminded having worked in the arts all my life and being around gay and Bi men and women...but even I get surprised because well, I guess what we know as a "type" flambouyant for men, or butchy for women is all stereotype.

The absolutely DROP DEAD gorgeous super sexy blonde actress Portia DeRossi from Arrested Development & Ally McBeal..openly OUTED herself as a Lesbian a few years back, and is NOW in a VERY open relationship having moved in with get this...Ellen DeGeneres. God...give me Portia's looks! That woman looks like a James Bond girl she's so stunning. I look like Quasimodo and I'm straight. Oy Vey!

There's also that clip of him getting out of a helicopter and doing the same camp run - I think he was worried the helicopter's blades would chop his head off...

Arlene,

I think you are being far too trusting in some of these sources. This sort of thing is made up and exaggerated all the time to sell books, magazines, etc. I wouldn't even believe a tenth of it.

how weird is this ? I have always seen that little bit on the dvd and i keep rewinding it and telling my oldest kid " look look!! I thought i was the only crazy one looking at that kinda stuff. thanks for noticing.

Farlander wrote:

Arlene,

I think you are being far too trusting in some of these sources. This sort of thing is made up and exaggerated all the time to sell books, magazines, etc. I wouldn't even believe a tenth of it.

FYI, from the time I was a child, I read "tabloid rumors" that Rock Hudson was gay. I always told people that those "rumors" were too prevalent over the years and while I didn't necessarily believe they were true...I ALSO didn't necessarily think they were untrue. More often than not, I pretty much thought Hudson was gay..(not that I cared, I STILL love his acting and movies), but when I told people..for years..they were Shocked and Apalled and said I was an idiot, yada, brought up that he was married to actress Phyllis Kirk (his movie studio suggested that to quell the rumors/gossip which it didn't anyhow)...

Lo and behold in the 1980's he outed himself as gay and died from AIDS.

I am not saying ALL of the tell all gossip I hear in the entertainment indusrty is true..but the fact of the matter is...that, unfortunately, it usually is...even with Freddie..who denied "Tabloid Gossip" for years he had AIDS (to protect his privacy which he had every right to do)...but...the point is, it was TRUE.

No offence Arlene but DAMN try and cut back a little from your comments yeah? You write a lot. Every time i see a comment of yours I always skip it cause like a fellow American, I hate to read a lot. I can tell your quite intelligent but just try to cut back a little. Just a suggestion. Dont get mad.

claud wrote:

how weird is this ? I have always seen that little bit on the dvd and i keep rewinding it and telling my oldest kid " look look!! I thought i was the only crazy one looking at that kinda stuff. thanks for noticing.

Another fantastic Deaky moment on Wembley is if you watch Now I'm Here on the Roger Cam. After the line 'your matches still light up the sky', John goes for a funky Deacon-spin, but catches one foot on the other and nearly ends up on his arse! I almost died when I first spotted that. Admittedly I was very drunk at the time.

well, cressley is definitly not straight, jaye cannot be straight,tom and ted I don't think so and the handsome guy neh...they all look gay to me.