queen and drugs

And just because Roger did not like Marijuhana does not necessarily mean he did not try coke... that's ridiculous. What has one thing to do with another?

OK we all know Freddie did Cocaine, but where do you guys think his energy came from? More from the cocaine or from himself?
As for me, I think it came 99.9% from his inner self...

Fairy

Not so funny :-(

Scirocco1977 wrote:

And just because Roger did not like Marijuhana does not necessarily mean he did not try coke... that's ridiculous. What has one thing to do with another?

I think they wouldn't have been really addicted,but they should have tried snorting coke sometimes...Honestly Brian and John doesn't seem to me people who did that,I'd be more sure of Freddie and Roger,but,anyway,we don't know,they could have tried everything or nothing..who knows?:)

I REALLY am wondering now why everyone says Freddie quit smoking when he found out he had AIDS.(which I believed..guess that's why they say don't believe everything you read) (and a picture is worth a thousand words).

I have now seen tons of photos of Freddie right up to practically when he passed, all smoking/holding cigarettes...

Frog wrote:

People say he quit smoking when he got AIDS because it weakens the immune system when you smoke, and have AIDS. Didn't Peter Freestone say he was still smoking when Freddie met Montserrat in 1987?

I never got to read Peter's book, but I think some of these er...confused stories are

1) Press & media inaccuracies.

2) IMPORTANT...some are INCORRECT but revised er fabricated stories from Brian, Roger, John, Friends, family, and YES FANS...because..it SOUNDS how do I put this...nicer...to portray somone in a good light that didn't make mistakes or learned from them.

Even the fans here say well Freddie took better care of himself after he knew he had AIDS. Or he had a BETTER, STRONGER voice on Innuendo, all because he quit smoking.

From what I have SEEN in photos, Freddie smoked right up until the end. If he had a BETTER, STRONGER voice on Innuendo, that's becuase he was growing older for one and sometimes a person's natural voice becomes fuller and richer as they get older, plus he matured as a professional singer, and intentionally sang with more interpretation, depth, range, phrasing, which is what a seasoned, pro singer...SHOULD do.

As for taking better care of himself when he got AIDS. Maybe not. Maybe he figured he enjoyed smoking, it relaxed him, he wasn't a heavy smoker and it's not like it was going to kill him, he already had a terminal disease. I am an adult, and I can handle the TRUTH. I may not agree with or like that Freddie smoked. But IF that is the truth so be it.

3) Also, Scott_Mercury put on here that Freddie literally hoovered cocaine all day prior to performing at Live Aid. Then Scott goes on to say that Freddie gave the performance of his life,"do the math" so to speak, as if to say the coke made Freddie a better performer.

Scott_Mercury wrote:

Freddie was a cocaine dabbler... but again, had it very much under control...

As Jim Hutton put it:
"Fred could spend $20,000 on cocaine in a weekend if there was a big event".... then, it may be 10-15 months before he would have another snort."

It should be noted... in Jim Hutton's book "Mercury and Me".... he says that the whole day, leading up to Queen time to go on at live Aid in 1985.. Jim says that "Freddie had been hitting the cocaine hard all day"....

Interesting fact...

Live AID is considered to be one of the best live performances by anyone..anywhere.

A) The "Truth" if that is it, in this case, wreaked forever for me, my thoughts that Freddie was ON HIS OWN a magnificent perfomer who could put his OWN electric energy and dynamic charisma and power into his Live Aid perfromance. Now that image has been to me, permanently devestated and ruined in that I feel that Freddie's performance was NOT him, it was the coke. And if that is the truth, (per Scott) I can handle it, but it reeks and then that is NOT in my opinion a great performance from Freddie.
It's an enhanced performance from drugs that he could not do or feared he could not do or was incapable of doing ON HIS OWN.

B) That's like all the talk of all the athletes in pro baseball in the USA taking steroids and its news...is SHATTERING the image of heroes and role models to children (and adults too) who idolize and love pro baseball in the USA. It's not that these baseball players are Great athletes at all. It's the performance enhancing drugs...steroids..that allows them to do superhuman great work in baseball. It sucks and is ruining the image of baseball and athletes. In fact attendence this year at USA games is the worst ever, and most fans say because they are disgusted, disillusioned that most of pro baseball players are all on steroids.

C) If Freddie did 10 tons of cocaine the day of Live Aid..so be it, BUT.........I thought it was INCREDIBLY irresponsible of Scott_Mercury to say and Crow on as if to sa

Frog wrote:

Freddie didn't always have it under control as Freddie suffered some seizure type fits in 1985 because of the drug.

My point exactly. BTW, if a person uses drugs AT ALL..how is that "Under control". If you need or want to "enhance" yourself UNNATURALLY, if you can't get through a day or life or handle emotions or need a "fix"...there's NO SUCH THING with any drug use as "under control". Anybody who uses drugs and says that is in denial, and rationalyzing their use, period.

Scott, please read my HUGE post above...

Not argue, but to respectfully disagree...not everyone who uses drugs uses them to "get through their day." It is an incorrect assumption to say that anyone who uses drugs "has a problem." Some drug users have a problem and others don't. This philosophy is relatively new and is primarily due to the "drug war" in the US. In centuries past, this has not been the case. Additionally, the labeling of a substance as a drug is entirely arbitrary...based simply on legislation. Many people use substances recreationally and are not addicted and rarely use them...only on certain occasions. By the way, I don't use drugs and I don't advocate their use. I just think that this is an unfair judgement to be placed on someone.

Holland!!! wrote:

His real energy came out of his dick, you know, that's why got aids! LOL!

Completely pointless. Not funny at all. Just shut the fuck up.

what about the heavy nose bleeds he had all the time due to all the coke and that was all thru his illness!!
also freddie was famous for running off back stage between songs for a line of coke, he also used to hit the stage pissed as a fart half the time checkout the tony hadley story when he got on stage with freddie totaly drunk, freddie's part trick was downing a full bottle of vodka in one!!! ouch

I certainly wasn't promoting cocaine use.

I think drugs of any kind are for losers... I have never touched a drug, or cigarette for that matter...

and I wouldn't for money.

I agree with American speaker Zig Ziglar who says "if we could end the smoking problem, we would end the drug problem".

Ziglar has noted a Harvard research done in 1996 that 95.6% of people who have been in rehab in the United States for drug use.... checked the "YES" box that they were a tobacco smoker.

Arlene... I wasn't saying that Freddie gave the performance of his life because of cocaine...

I'm saying he did in spite of it.

I don't like to sit around and think of Freddie as a gay, bed hopping drug user..... although some would argue thats what he was.

I like to think that was just one side of him, and the real Fred had more class than that.

Hey, there are classy gay bed hopping drug users and then there are tacky ones. Let's not judge people.

Arlene, of course Freddie's performance was his own. If the performance came from the drugs, then every junkie out there would be Billie Holiday, every cokehead would be Freddie-esque. Sadly, that is not the case. Visit any karaoke bar full of drunks and compare.

--Egret

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I tend to think that the greatest artists of all time have brought out their best stuff under the influence of drugs...
Drugs seem to increase the creativity..I don't know. That's just what I've noticed.