Sorry Arlene R. III...
I allways thought, you were not a fan of this "Homestory" type of gossip... How can you trust an article about Mary... who was left "Freddies Millions"? :-))
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Sorry Arlene R. III...
I allways thought, you were not a fan of this "Homestory" type of gossip... How can you trust an article about Mary... who was left "Freddies Millions"? :-))
That was the only article I had right away on Brian's website to post. But I've read that in tons of articles and interviews with Peter, Jim, various music press in the UK. Mary's articlw was just the immediate one I had at my fingertips. I surely don't beleive everything she said, but this has been confirmed by most other sources as well.
Freddie was NEVER blind. But, as I put in an earlier post near the beginning of this topic, Freddie was in Montreux the beg. of November 1991. He started Gradually...losing some of his vision and that devestated him emotionally. He returned to Garden Lodge in London and made the decision that since his quality of life..and work..was being adversely affected, he stopped taking his AZT medication, and only took his painkillers. Then he rapidly went downhill and died just a few weeks later.
Arlene, sorry but what you're saying is pure bull shit. You make it sound as if Freddie had decided to die because he was losing his sight, and that would have affected his music!! He decided to die because he was suffering too much, and had lost hope he'd get better. Someone as strong as Freddie would never give up just because he may lose his sight. He had lived for many years with AIDS! And there are many blind musicians around. Someone like Freddie would not want to die just because of it. He would have found thousands of ways to be productive and have fun just the same.
I am blind...And I party all the time!!
Fairy
And by the way take a look at It's A Hard Life video - how many eyes are on Freddie's outfit! It probably means something... He knew he'd be blind in 1991!
If seriously: no, he wasn't. He draw pictures in Montreux and Garden Lodge in 1991 - it's not something you'd do if you're blind.
There are amazing things people have done when they are blind or can't hear... like drawing pictures and composing great songs.. but Freddie wasn't... i think :)
Arlene, sorry but what you're saying is pure bull shit. You make it sound as if Freddie had decided to die because he was losing his sight, and that would have affected his music!! He decided to die because he was suffering too much, and had lost hope he'd get better. Someone as strong as Freddie would never give up just because he may lose his sight. He had lived for many years with AIDS! And there are many blind musicians around. Someone like Freddie would not want to die just because of it. He would have found thousands of ways to be productive and have fun just the same.
I am blind...And I party all the time!!
Fairy
Fairy..I didn't mean just and only losing his sight. I said it was the last straw in a series of things, such as constant infections, deteriorating health, barely being able to even walk, constant pain. Read what Mary Austin said in my post above. Jim Hutton and Peter Freestone all said the same.
Yes, I know everyone from Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Jose Feliciano, & tons more artists are blind and VERY Productive...but in Freddie's case, 1st as I said Freddie was NEVER blind...
Freddie was starting to lose his sight..and it was the last straw that broke the camel's back in that ALL of his other health was getting much WORSE, and he knew he was dying.
When his pain and suffering were at the point where he couldn't bare it, he intentionally made the decision to stop taking his AZT and only took his pain killers.
And BTW...before you get mad...at me...I know it's hard to think of Freddie giving up hope, faith, inspiration...but just remember the topic we all just did on Brian's thoughts of suicide. When the topic starter posted and started that thread..everyone said..that's IMPOSSIBLE. Brian has so much to live for. He would NEVER think of suicide and give up hope, faith, etc. But..there was, in fact, a time in Brian's life where things were just to much weight for him to bare as well...in the course of a few years, Brian saw Freddie die, Brian's Father & then Mother died, Brian went thru a tough divorce. And so he DID actually get do depressed he DID think of suicide and checked himself into therapy and thank GOD got help.
Well I and you, are NOT Freddie. We and no-one on QZ can actually know what went through his mind. What I do know, is the man suffered horribly, was in constant pain, and was getting worse, not better. When he left Montreux and came back to Garden Lodge in Novemer 1991, he in his heart and mind made the decision, that was right for him and that WOULD and DID give him PEACE. He decided to let nature or rather the disease run its course.
--------NO....Freddie DID NOT kill himself as you are interpreting me to have said. What I mean is that he stopped taking the medication that was prolonging rather than stopping his suffering. There's a HUGE difference in that.------------
Fairy, and don't think of it as Freddie losing hope...
..YOU of all people who are VERY spiritual should know..that maybe..that's when Freddie had the MOST hope, faith, and COURAGE...
He decided it was time that his SPIRIT lived on, without pain and suffering..and Freddie's Spirit DOES live on, and is with YOU, with ME, with this world, With Brian, Roger, John, and Freddie's family and Loved ones. And you can be sure that NOW Freddie IS Happy and at Peace and Joy, Forever
Fortunately he was not. But if he had gone blind, and still been healthy, do you guys really think he would have wanted to kill himself?? Arlene seems to think so...I think Freddie has shown the world he could put up with much worse things than blindness...He would have killed himself as soon as he tested HIV positive if he had been so weak.
Don't you think so guys?
Fairy
Fortunately he was not. But if he had gone blind, and still been healthy, do you guys really think he would have wanted to kill himself?? Arlene seems to think so...I think Freddie has shown the world he could put up with much worse things than blindness...He would have killed himself as soon as he tested HIV positive if he had been so weak.
Don't you think so guys?
Fairy
Fairy you are putting words in my mouth which I do NOT appreciate.
1st Yes, I know everyone from Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Jose Feliciano, & tons more artists are blind and VERY Productive...and in Freddie's case, 1st as I said Freddie was NEVER blind...
------------I also NEVER, EVER said Freddie wanted to kill himself. Where are you getting that? Would you please...carefuly read my entire post I just posted directly above yours.---------
You are interpreting something entirely different from what I ACTUALLY said.
Arlene,
I don't find it hard to believe Freddie decided it was time to die...I actually knew that from biographies, interviews, etc. What bothered me was that you made it sound as if his losing sight was the main reason. Because he would not be productive in his work, you said. Mary mentions that casually. Freddie knew it was time to go, because he couldn't even get out of bed and he was in great pain, with absolutely no hope to get better.
Freddie certainly knew all the musicians you've mentioned pretty well, and he knew that he would do even better than them even without sight.
I know he's at peace now. He lives on...I've been perceiving his spirit for 13 years :-).
I'm sorry if I sounded aggressive. I just can't stand it when blindness is equaled to lack of opportunities. And judging from Freddie's attitude toward AIDS I would bet anything that he'd see it just like I do.
Fairy
I don't find it hard to believe Freddie decided it was time to die...I actually knew that from biographies, interviews, etc. What bothered me was that you made it sound as if his losing sight was the main reason. Because he would not be productive in his work, you said. Mary mentions that casually. Freddie knew it was time to go, because he couldn't even get out of bed and he was in great pain, with absolutely no hope to get better.
Freddie certainly knew all the musicians you've mentioned pretty well, and he knew that he would do even better than them even without sight.
I know he's at peace now. He lives on...I've been perceiving his spirit for 13 years :-).
I'm sorry if I sounded aggressive. I just can't stand it when blindness is equaled to lack of opportunities. And judging from Freddie's attitude toward AIDS I would bet anything that he'd see it just like I do.
Fairy
By "killing himself" I meant deciding to die and stopping taking medications.
Fairy, I would never equate blindness (which AGAIN Freddie was not ever blind..I wish people would stop saying that. He was Starting to lose his sight. Huge difference. I've had frineds who are diabetics and lose SOME only of their vision due to diabetes and they are NOT blind)...
But I would never equate blindness and many disablities from keeping people from doing what they love if they put their heart and soul into it.
Beethoven was deaf and composed symphonies. Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Blind Willie McTell, Jose Feliciano are all blind and gifted musicians, composers, singers.
There is a great news journalist whose name I don't know who reports for NBC's Dateline who is a quadraplegic in a wheelchair. Look at the amazing things Christopher Reeve accomplished as a film Director after he became a quadraplegic.
With Freddie, it was a case of a disease that kept ravaging him over and over, and became worse day by day. And he BRAVELY fought it and made the masterpiece of his life...Innuendo..in my opinion Freddie's and Queen's Greatest, most superb, masterwork album. What a legacy he left. And if a cure had been found for AIDS in time, before Freddie passed, imagine what Freddie could have STILL done and brought into this world. :)
But I would never equate blindness and many disablities from keeping people from doing what they love if they put their heart and soul into it.
Beethoven was deaf and composed symphonies. Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Blind Willie McTell, Jose Feliciano are all blind and gifted musicians, composers, singers.
There is a great news journalist whose name I don't know who reports for NBC's Dateline who is a quadraplegic in a wheelchair. Look at the amazing things Christopher Reeve accomplished as a film Director after he became a quadraplegic.
With Freddie, it was a case of a disease that kept ravaging him over and over, and became worse day by day. And he BRAVELY fought it and made the masterpiece of his life...Innuendo..in my opinion Freddie's and Queen's Greatest, most superb, masterwork album. What a legacy he left. And if a cure had been found for AIDS in time, before Freddie passed, imagine what Freddie could have STILL done and brought into this world. :)
OK, Arlene. I'm glad we agree.
:-)
Fairy
:-)
Fairy
If seriously: no, he wasn't. He draw pictures in Montreux and Garden Lodge in 1991 - it's not something you'd do if you're blind.
why ever not? - imagine da vinci blind....
it's not as if he would look at the picture he just painted of his and say "oh fuck, la Gioconda. I've got her smile all wrong!" no. one of the "positives" for all blind artists is that they NEVER think their work looks shite
Losing his eyesight was the least of his problems. There's no getting around it, by that stage in 1991 the game was up.
Losing his eyesight was the least of his problems. There's no getting around it, by that stage in 1991 the game was up.
I totally agree with you.
I know we will never know, but what do you guys think Freddie would have done if he had gone blind, but had recovered from AIDS? I'm sure it would have affected his presence on stage, but I think he would have found thousands of ways to stay productive, and even go on tour if he wanted to...I think I'm curious about this because I'm blind myself. Though I'm the first to tell you that blindness is a real total DRAG, I can also assure you that it's not that big problem and that you can basically do anything you want...Except for drawing, maybe? But maybe Leonardo would have done that too...LOL
As for me, Freddie is my big inspiration. Whenever I feel discouraged I know that in my place, he would have never given up. If he faced AIDS so bravely he sure would have faced any disability, which can't even be compared to the physical and psychological suffering of AIDS.
Fairy
In the invisible man video Freddie is wearing sunglasses because he got sperm in his eyes, and they were all red and teary