Rolling Stone's SH**TY NEW Remarks About Queen

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Knute wrote:

Vad wrote:

So, what Arlene is trying to tell us is that RS (which I've never read cause they're musical incompetents) deserve to be burned in hell cause they hate Queen, but she might be some kind of hero cause she hates Eagles, satanized by her without any special reason.

LOL! Sorry Arlene, he's got you there. You are displaying nepotism. Just like Rolling Stone does.

I don't get you. Didn't you read my post above yours! The Eagles could TEACH and GIVE LESSONS to Queen on how to party, do drugs, and be debauched.

Yeah and GG Allin could take the Eagles to school on that stuff! So what?
They didn't say Freddie was a terrible person that
justified the Pope's inane ramblings. They're pointing out the silliness of it all by using dark humor.

Like I said, fair or not, Freddie has a stigma attached to him.
Did you read my post?

Knute wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Knute wrote:

Vad wrote:

So, what Arlene is trying to tell us is that RS (which I've never read cause they're musical incompetents) deserve to be burned in hell cause they hate Queen, but she might be some kind of hero cause she hates Eagles, satanized by her without any special reason.

LOL! Sorry Arlene, he's got you there. You are displaying nepotism. Just like Rolling Stone does.

I don't get you. Didn't you read my post above yours! The Eagles could TEACH and GIVE LESSONS to Queen on how to party, do drugs, and be debauched.

Yeah and GG Allin could take the Eagles to school on that stuff! So what?
They didn't say Freddie was a terrible person that
justified the Pope's inane ramblings. They're pointing out the silliness of it all by using dark humor.

Like I said, fair or not, Freddie has a stigma attached to him.
Did you read my post?

But...my point is that If Rolling Stone Magazine truly only meant it as a joke AT the new Pope, why did they not say ONE word about the other bands that The New Pope denounced, who DO have just as much STIGMA attached to them as well...and as I posted/said above...

...Get Down Make Love's lyrics....have NOTHING to do with RS Magazine's bitchy comment GAY bashing Freddie at ALL!

Also read where I said RS Publisher/Editor In Chieg Jann Wenner openly outed himself as GAY..so RS magazine is a bigoted HYPOCRITE. They just USED their (news article journalism) as a CLOUD to give them an open opportunity to slag/slam Queen.

Have you never heard of what is known about the evils of the press as "Wag The Dog". Using the cover of "true news" to instead say something unethical or slanted?

Go see Robert DeNiro and Dustin Hoffman in the scathing indictment of the press in the film Director Barry Levinson's satire, "Wag The Dog".

Your mouth will drop open. BTW..that was based on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky/war on Saddam Hussein.

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

I took the liberty of sending them an appropriately biting e-mail:

Rolling Stone, once heralded as one of the greatest music magazines in the world, now decayed and embittered, a pulpy mass of spite and hate spread under the guise of intelligent matter. Why does this seem vaguely reminiscent of Nazi propaganda magazine 'Der Sturmer'? Will you be adding cheap pornographic propaganda next?

RS presents us with it's absolutely charming music 'reviews'. My apologies for using the quotation marks, but I cannot bring myself to viewing these pieces of text as genuine reviews. Objectivity, an essential component of a review, is nowhere to be found; either RS likes you, and thus all your reviews are unimaginably kind and positive, or RS hates you, which happens in the majority of cases, and you will never see anything but subjective envy by the musically challenged (which seems to be the main criterion for getting a job as a reviewer for the RS) for a review of your latest album.

As if this Rupert Murdoch-type reviewing, usually named slanting, isn't enough, the RS can't resist slipping their bitter hate into other articles. Take, for instance, the RS' response to pope Benedict's pathetic remarks about 'Satanic' Rock & Roll. The RS cannot bear to go without slanting at least one of their most hated bands, in this case Queen, as often as possible. Interesting, that RS has to resort to cheap jokes, reminiscent of bad comedians making fun of their audiences in cheap joints (yes, 'cheap joints' is a hint at the state you are in now, RS!), to entertain the reader. Of course, this is the easiest way out when no person able to comment in a sensible way on events is present, which is, it is painfully obvious, the case.

Furthermore, RS does not bother to check their facts. 'Get Down Make Love' one of Queen's hits? Please, how ignorant must one be to say, let alone believe, that. Shouldn't a professional music magazine be aware that a song which was no crowd-favourite by a long run, and was not a single-release anywhere in the world was not a hit?

The level RS is at, at this time, is not even high enough to take too much notice of. In fact, the only two emotions in place when looking upon it's current state of decayed glory are pity and malicious joy. Because, in the end, RS is good for a cheap laugh, no more, no less. How ironic, isn't it? The fact that the type of humour you yourself employ as a means of entertaining the reader is what you are yourself a victim (or more appropriately: the subject) of.

Yours,

Caspar Mulders
Netherlands

P.S.: I wonder if you even have the guts to respond to this message. Somehow I doubt it.

Thank you!

Read my post from above:

But...my point is that If Rolling Stone Magazine truly only meant it as a joke AT the new Pope, why did they not say ONE word about the other bands that The New Pope denounced, who DO have just as much STIGMA attached to them as well...and as I posted/said above...

...Get Down Make Love's lyrics....have NOTHING to do with RS Magazine's bitchy comment GAY bashing Freddie at ALL!

Also read where I said RS Publisher/Editor In Chief Jann Wenner openly outed himself as GAY..so RS magazine is a bigoted HYPOCRITE. They just USED their "news article journalism" as a CLOUD to give them an open opportunity to slag/slam Queen.

Have you never heard of what is known about the evils of the press as "Wag The Dog". Using the cover of "true news" to instead say something unethical or slanted?

Go see Robert DeNiro and Dustin Hoffman in the scathing indictment of the press in the film Director Barry Levinson's satire, "Wag The Dog".

Your mouth will drop open. BTW..that was based on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky/war on Saddam Hussein events.

But here's where you and I disagree.


The Eagles do not have a detrimental stigma surrounding them.
Most people think the Eagles are as squeeky clean as Mickey Mouse's asshole. They're All American, Mom's apple pie in the public's eye. Freddie is percieved
as a promiscuous and charismatic gay performer who died of Aids.

Is this correct or not?

You or I know he was much more than that. But we are talking public perception. Hell, I didn't know Glen Frey had his nose reconstructed and I thought I knew a shitload of rock trivia.

In other words, they would have not used that Freddie/Morrocan pool boy joke if people weren't gonna get it.

Is it in bad taste? Yes perhaps, but we live in a tasteless society.

Knute wrote:

But here's where you and I disagree.


The Eagles do not have a detrimental stigma surrounding them.
Most people think the Eagles are as squeeky clean as Mickey Mouse's asshole. They're All American, Mom's apple pie in the public's eye. Freddie is percieved
as a promiscuous and charismatic gay performer who dies of Aids.

Is this correct or not?

You or I know he was much more than that. But we are talking public perception. Hell, I didn't know Glen Frey had his nose reconstructed and I thought I knew a shitload of rock trivia.

Frey has been quite vocal about that surgery too. as well as he and Henley's partner in crime, Fleetwood Mac's Stevie Nicks...who also had her entire nose reconstructed with surgery and both she and Glenn Frey have Teflon coated METAL plates in their nose as their is NO cartilage left from all the cocaine abuse they both did, often together, as Nicks is friends with Frey and was lovers with Henley.

You say this is not public perception, but I have known all of this crap all my life and I'm 43. I never have understood why the USA embraced The Eagles & Fleetwood Mac as squeaky clean when as I said they could GIVE Queen lessons in debauchery, drugs, etc. you name it.

I think that has a lot to do with homophobic knee jerk reactions.

I mean look at Elvis. That dude was hardly a saint.
Died on the crapper and was a bloated mess filled with drugs. Yet he is damn near a diety.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Your mouth will drop open. BTW..that was based on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky/war on Saddam Hussein events.

No, it wasn't. The release of the movie and Clinton's missile attack against Bin Laden were around the same time. It was coincidence, not an attempt by the filmmakers to editorialize.

As for the debate over The Eagles, it's moot. The fact that you have to educate us about their illicit deeds should end the conversation. The Eagles, regardless of reality, were never viewed as a wicked band. They were not the perceived threat to young boys in the same way that Queen was, and in the twenty-five years since their heyday, their image has only increased. What purpose would it serve, in a sarcastic article, to bring up aviary misdeeds when no one understands it?

It's like trying to explain the punchline to a really bad joke.

Zeni wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Your mouth will drop open. BTW..that was based on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky/war on Saddam Hussein events.

No, it wasn't. The release of the movie and Clinton's missile attack against Bin Laden were around the same time. It was coincidence, not an attempt by the filmmakers to editorialize.

As for the debate over The Eagles, it's moot. The fact that you have to educate us about their illicit deeds should end the conversation. The Eagles, regardless of reality, were never viewed as a wicked band. They were not the perceived threat to young boys in the same way that Queen was, and in the twenty-five years since their heyday, their image has only increased. What purpose would it serve, in a sarcastic article, to bring up aviary misdeeds when no one understands it?

It's like trying to explain the punchline to a really bad joke.

I STILL don't get why people have this Stigma idea of Queen, and again as I said why not Fleetwood Mac or The Eagles. When I was in high school in the 1970's in both bands' heydey..all the talk among us in school was about both The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac's debauchery. We DID know, All of us, THEN. We all laughed at Stevie Nicks nearly oding from SWALLOWING cocaine...she had her stomach pumped and what about her song "Goldust Woman"? We all knew what The Eagles' "Hotel California", "Life In The Fast Lane", & "Witchy Woman" were about. And the "stoners" in my school who I hated loved blasting Steve Miller's "The Joker" on their car radios. Yet all of these artists are beloved by the USA and the baby boomer generation NOW as like you said as squeaky clean.

When people of my generation grew into middleaged adults...did they PUT ASIDE or FORGET how debauched these bands were?


Also I agree with what Knute said:

Knute wrote:

I mean look at Elvis. That dude was hardly a saint.
Died on the crapper and was a bloated mess filled with drugs. Yet he is damn near a diety.

Elvis was a drug addled, boozing, gun toting, womanizing waste who died YOUNGER than Freddie due to his own excesses, and on the toilet. How low can someone sink?

Yet people in the USA act like Elvis is a Saint, especially....the moral majority bible belt...the VERY same people who canonized Elvis...ostracized Freddie. How ironic and hypocritcal is that?

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Elvis was a drug addled, boozing, gun toting, womanizing waste who died YOUNGER than Freddie due to his own excesses, and on the toilet. How low can someone sink?

Yet people in the USA act like Elvis is a Saint, especially....the moral majority bible belt...the VERY same people who canonized Elvis...ostracized Freddie. How ironic and hypocritcal is that?

I completely agree with you, Arlene!! Many Americans have very positive ideas about Elvis, and seem to forget all the negative things he did during his lifetime, such as drugs.
But their view on Freddie is completely different. They dislike him, and often inferiorize him because of his homosexuality.
I´m not saying all Americans do this, because I know of a lot of Americans who enjoy and respect Freddie´s music, despite his sexuality.

>oh and what was the article where roger got pissed and wrote a lovely letter to them?

Do tell me more!

Ravenetta wrote:

oh and what was the article where roger got pissed and wrote a lovely letter to them?

Read this thread. Enjoy!

http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=515224

AND CLICK ON THIS LINK FOR THE LETTER!!!!

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/mp3.aspx?Q=187

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/mp3.aspx?Q=187

BTW..the KEY word that Roger uses...all kidding aside..is when he lets loose on RS for their writing their review of Queen with a...

....SLANT! which is Exactly what they did AGAIN in their article regarding the New Pope and Rock & Roll, then slamming Queen which I brought up in this very TOPIC.

That IS the point. Rolling Stone Magazine for over 20 years, only writes SLANTED, SUBJECTIVE articles and BITCHY comments/remarks/"jokes" having nothing to do with Queen's music and they use any opportunity they can to rag on Queen, just to be shitty.

God save the Queen .....and Rolling Stone magazine sucks .... nuff said ... im not anti eagles , though i am anti crap .. erm rap .. retards attempting poetry (lol)... I like good rock music , and i think there is a little of it in every good band ... depending on what your tastes are.

Not bad for my first post in quite some time I might add , and Freddie , bisexual or not, critisized or not, will always be a musical genious in my eyes. Especially after watching the second disc of GVH1 with the bohemian rhapsody stuff... that alone ought to shut Rolling stone right up ..