Exactly. To suggest anything else makes you look like a conspiracy theorist.
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What FM songs could be included?
Somebody To Love got dropped from the Magic Tour, which only leaves 2 FM songs that are on the last tour set but not on this - SSOR, & LOTG. Neither were fully performed, and both were replacing KYA & GKR on The Works tour as token old tracks.
Look at it another way - what Queen songs (irrespective of writer) are most surprisingly missing? THis is subjective, but personally I'd say Now I'm Here is the biggest surprise omission. Now, who wrote that?
Somebody To Love got dropped from the Magic Tour, which only leaves 2 FM songs that are on the last tour set but not on this - SSOR, & LOTG. Neither were fully performed, and both were replacing KYA & GKR on The Works tour as token old tracks.
Look at it another way - what Queen songs (irrespective of writer) are most surprisingly missing? THis is subjective, but personally I'd say Now I'm Here is the biggest surprise omission. Now, who wrote that?
sorry but i have to disagree with this...FM's songs are getting pushed further back - until all that will be left will be the one's you can't have a queen concert without - ie BoRhap and WATC - believe me this will happen
FM had seven songs on the magic tour (icl co-writes)
he now has four
here's his totals
magic - 7
works - 11
HS -9
game (europe) - 9
crazy - 11
l/killers - 10
jazz - 8
NOTW - 11
races - 12
opera - 10
so until BHM decided to 'remove traces of Mercury, from the Queen diet' Fm was doing quite well - it's a consistent spread until this tour. When you consider that Bri writes the rockier numbers with a live feel - it's even more staggering that only now - first tour as queen after Fred's demise - that Fred's less represented on the setlist
FM had seven songs on the magic tour (icl co-writes)
he now has four
here's his totals
magic - 7
works - 11
HS -9
game (europe) - 9
crazy - 11
l/killers - 10
jazz - 8
NOTW - 11
races - 12
opera - 10
so until BHM decided to 'remove traces of Mercury, from the Queen diet' Fm was doing quite well - it's a consistent spread until this tour. When you consider that Bri writes the rockier numbers with a live feel - it's even more staggering that only now - first tour as queen after Fred's demise - that Fred's less represented on the setlist
sorry but i have to disagree with this...FM's songs are getting pushed further back - until all that will be left will be the one's you can't have a queen concert without - ie BoRhap and WATC - believe me this will happen
FM had seven songs on the magic tour (icl co-writes)
he now has four
here's his totals
magic - 7
works - 11
HS -9
game (europe) - 9
crazy - 11
l/killers - 10
jazz - 8
NOTW - 11
races - 12
opera - 10
so until BHM decided to 'remove traces of Mercury, from the Queen diet' Fm was doing quite well - it's a consistent spread until this tour. When you consider that Bri writes the rockier numbers with a live feel - it's even more staggering that only now - first tour as queen after Fred's demise - that Fred's less represented on the setlist
Martin I'm Totally in agreement with you. With Freddie gone, Brian can pretty much rule the roost as the ''King'' of Queen legally, financially, creatively.
This is much like what Macca did the last few years, now that John Lennon is long passed, stating he's trying to get the entire Lennon/McCartney song publishing catalog to be restructured legally to say McCartney/Lennon...Right..
Look I admire Brian. He's a fine songwriter, musician, etc. But reality and history are what they are. I don't appreciate Brian's attempts to re-write history as HE wants it to be, for himself.
And I do NOT appreciate Brian trampling on Freddie's grave in this money grubbing ego crazy fashion. It's insulting, disrespectful and just plain wrong.
Credits for all new songs from the Miracle and on are Queen, so all members. This means that Show must go on, Days of our lives and I want it all (and probably say it's not true) are credited to all members royalty-wise.
Credits for all new songs from the Miracle and on are Queen, so all members. This means that Show must go on, Days of our lives and I want it all (and probably say it's not true) are credited to all members royalty-wise.
I Want It All now credites to Brian. As well as Mother Love wasn't credited to Queen, though it's from post-The Miracle ages. (http://serryfunster.narod.ru/motlove.htm)
Anybody who thinks that Brian is trying to re-write history or lessen Freddie's accomplishments is on crack. Let's be real. This is a rock show. If you take the Miracle and Innuendo albums as Queen composed songs, then Freddie's last real 'rock' song was Princes of the Universe. It was never played live. So that's AKOM done. The Works? It's a Hard Life, Man on the Prowl and Open Windows. None work. Hot Space? Staying Power is the only song possible, it was played solely for the Hot Space tour and it hardly fits the setlist. The Game? Play the Game is a possibility (not a great one for PR), and they play Crazy. Jazz? Mustapha, Jealousy, Bicycle Race (great song, popular, but ridiculous if sung by anyone but FM), Let me entertain You is a possibility, but only played one tour and hardly a staple, Dont's stop me Now (see Bicycle Race), so no real candidates from Jazz. News has Champions, Get Down Make Love could work, Melancholy Blues couldn't. ADATR would only get STL as an option. ANATO has BR, LOML, and those are the only options. SHA has Killer Queen, don't know if that's PR's cup of tea, Lily of the Valley, Leroy Brown are out, and possibly both Lap songs could be played. On II, apart from SSOR, which is ridiculous for PR to sing lyrically, there's never anything from that album live. And Queen would give us Liar only, which I'd love to see them do.
IMHO, there's not a lot of Freddie songs to choose from. They play the hits for the most part, but this tour sticks to more of the straight ahead rock stuff, which was written primarily by Brian. How that makes him re-writing Queen history is a sttrtch to say the least. The reasons Freddie's total decreased each tour is that he and Brian were the primary songwriters up to NOTW when John and Roger got two songs. So after NOTW off the top of my head, the band had 67 songs in their catalogue. Roger had written 7, John 5. Where do you think the majority of songs were going to come from live? And following that, who thinks stuff like Cool Cat, Life is Real, Pain is so... and stuff like that would work live? Uh, uh. That's why Brian's stuff is featured, it always had prominent guitar.
IMHO, there's not a lot of Freddie songs to choose from. They play the hits for the most part, but this tour sticks to more of the straight ahead rock stuff, which was written primarily by Brian. How that makes him re-writing Queen history is a sttrtch to say the least. The reasons Freddie's total decreased each tour is that he and Brian were the primary songwriters up to NOTW when John and Roger got two songs. So after NOTW off the top of my head, the band had 67 songs in their catalogue. Roger had written 7, John 5. Where do you think the majority of songs were going to come from live? And following that, who thinks stuff like Cool Cat, Life is Real, Pain is so... and stuff like that would work live? Uh, uh. That's why Brian's stuff is featured, it always had prominent guitar.
IMHO, there's not a lot of Freddie songs to choose from. They play the hits for the most part, but this tour sticks to more of the straight ahead rock stuff, which was written primarily by Brian. How that makes him re-writing Queen history is a sttrtch to say the least. The reasons Freddie's total decreased each tour is that he and Brian were the primary songwriters up to NOTW when John and Roger got two songs. So after NOTW off the top of my head, the band had 67 songs in their catalogue. Roger had written 7, John 5. Where do you think the majority of songs were going to come from live? And following that, who thinks stuff like Cool Cat, Life is Real, Pain is so... and stuff like that would work live? Uh, uh. That's why Brian's stuff is featured, it always had prominent guitar.
Finally someone I agree with 100%
Kudos to you- my thoughts exactliy- I just posted sth similar in Queen plus Rodgers thread...
Anybody who thinks that Brian is trying to re-write history or lessen Freddie's accomplishments is on crack. Let's be real. This is a rock show.
Is this why I Want It All now credites to Brian, but Hijack My Heart still to Queen?
Well said BHM 0271!
Not much more I can add to this except well said, BHM, but it won't keep the conspiracy theorists quiet. Let them have their hissy fits about how Brian is "rewriting Queen's history" to his specific needs; meanwhile, we can comfortably reassure them as the men in nice white jackets take them away.
And Serry, I'm sorry, but that's a lame argument. You might as well argue why 'Made In Heaven' and 'I Was Born To Love You' was credited to Freddie even though Brian, Roger, and John completely re-arranged them and made them more Queen-like, so why was it not credited to Queen?
And Serry, I'm sorry, but that's a lame argument. You might as well argue why 'Made In Heaven' and 'I Was Born To Love You' was credited to Freddie even though Brian, Roger, and John completely re-arranged them and made them more Queen-like, so why was it not credited to Queen?
Let me repeat my question.
WHICH FREDDIE SONGS WOULD YOU ADD?
WHICH FREDDIE SONGS WOULD YOU ADD?
Let me repeat my question.
WHICH FREDDIE SONGS WOULD YOU ADD?
I was surprised Somebody To Love wasn't included, as I would have thought it would have suited PR. I'd also like to have seen It's Late, and Heaven For Everyone performed.