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Arlene R. Weiss wrote:
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:
Every word in that article is TRUE and you fuckin well know it. You grow up and smell the coffee. SAD.......people think they are seeing Queen. LOL!!!


BPP, I thought that the article, and the fans that the writer interviewed, regardless of whether their opinions are of the Queen+Paul Rodgers Tour...that they all DID articulate very well, what not only you...but alot of people on QZ have said.

And some of the fans interviewed in this article DID say that they are HAPPY to be going to the New Jersey USA concert, but...because

1) Freddie died before they ever, and thus have never had a chance to see Queen tour

2) That they are going mostly for the experience of at least once seeing half of Queen being Brian and Roger...and out of respect for Queen.

I think they said what you have been saying pretty much..just in articulated a bit better (and I do repsect your opinion as you are entitled to it).

The comparsions between that of ACDC...as to Jim Morrison and The Doors was a spot on one (and I don't even like The Doors but I agree).

Even I have said, if I go to the tour, ...

1) It's because I have NEVER seen Queen live on tour and they stopped touring the USA by the time I was old enough to see them, and then Freddie passed away.

2) I do adore Roger and Brian

3) Half of Queen is I guess what I have to take as opposed to nothing at all and I want to experience the only thing close to what Queen once was...BUT...it's not (to me and only my opinion), the same without John..and of COURSE, without Freddie. It's just not. I'm not downing it. I WANT to go to this tour. I just am realistic about this particular experience as opposed to the Freddie fronted Queen.

4) Geez, even Brian..in the LAW DVD interview says that yes..all of Queen's members were a great live experience, but that FREDDIE...was the ''vehicle, the great connection to the audience, especially on a stadium level.''

I think it's a great article that articulates many fans feelings in a realistic and positive way. Still wanting to see the tour, but for what it is and nothing more. As one last chance to see Brian, Roger and...yes Paul...kick ass to try to give people a part what was Queen....but...it's not as the article says what Queen was...without Freddie.


Nobody wants Brian and Roger to stop touring but I do agree with the article when it says using the Queen name cheapens the memory of it's two missing members. I again tried to watch the version of WATC live from Sheffield (free via Queenonline). I had to stop it half way through it's just not right. Although Brian, Roger and John are excellent musicians, Freddie WAS Queen and anything done without him should not be considered as Queen END OF STORY.
Paul Rodgers - "Gimp Of The Year 2006"
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Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:
englishyob wrote:
QUEEN and PAUL ROGERS ROCK


On your own on that one. Fuckface. Triple wanker!!


I dont think so it only you and a few other on here that keep going on and on and on and on etc more people one here support the amazing new Queen and Paul Roger tour but in you sad little friendless world you think everyone is on your side

and if Queen WAS JUST Freddie why didn’t Mr Bad Guy chart higher then it did was released answer that one then

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Right On BPP!!!!
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englishyob wrote:
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:
englishyob wrote:
QUEEN and PAUL ROGERS ROCK


On your own on that one. Fuckface. Triple wanker!!


I dont think so it only you and a few other on here that keep going on and on and on and on etc more people one here support the amazing new Queen and Paul Roger tour but in you sad little friendless world you think everyone is on your side

You need your fuckin ears syringed mate.

Paul Rodgers - "Gimp Of The Year 2006"
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I think Q+PR will be a great rock concert.
Is is Queen ?NO!
Queen was Freddie,John,Bri and Roger.
No one else. Sorry .
No Freddie + no John = No Queen.
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nothing wrong with my hearing what i heard was a new sound, the music of Queen played from a diffirent prospective
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Don't try to ruin it for the people who never saw Queen live...bitch.
Nonono, you don't understand, that is NOT why I have this gerbil!
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yeah spot on but it like talking to a brick wall when trying to explain to Sharon G. and BPP if we wanna see QPR we'll go and see then and screw what there say
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As tough as it is to wade through the mess that the children have made with this post, it's still possible to look at it with a fair perspective. The writer isn't BPP or Sharon. G, he writes for an American daily. His points are fair, he's not a Queen hater and he presents a point of view that a lot of people share. No matter how Brian and Roger present it, no matter the value of the Queen brand from a business point of view, it's one half of Queen performing Queen material. The Doors drummer successfully won a restraining order against the surviving members banning them from using the name "The Doors of the 21st Century." The legal argument is too long to detail but the judge sided with the drummer who said that he had no trouble with the other surving Doors playing Doors music, just not with the Doors name, because the Doors were 4 guys, not 2, and their most famous member by a mile was their singer. Sound familiar?
You know, good times are now.
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It is a great article! Especially the last two lines are SO TRUE!

I think that Brian and Roger are great musicians and they should have every right to still make music and tour. The point is that they are using the name QUEEN! They are NOT Queen! And everybody knows that! Queen are (as already mentioned like a 1000 times) John, Roger, Brian and Freddie!

Brian and Roger are great musicians so I think that they could have used another name. I think they would still get success. But obviously, they wanted success so bad that they used the name Queen. Then they were SURE that they would get success.

For example, my parents like Queen. They listened to Queen when they were young. But they were never fans like the members here on Queenzone are. The only member of the band that my parents remember and know the name of is Freddie Mercury. THAT IS THE POINT!
Queen were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie. Freddie could not do it without the others, but he is still the one that most people remember and the one that has made history because he is the greatest front man ever. That means: The new tour will really cheapen the memory of what Queen was all about! Queen were SO F***ING great, that if my parents went to a Queen concert now, they would get SO disappointed, and that would be such a shame!

It is really a shame to cheapen the memory of a band that was SO great! I know that many people really appreciate this new tour. And I am happy for them! But there are some Queen fans out there (including myself) that would expect to hear QUEEN if we would be going to one of the concerts on this tour. Obviously, that is not what we would be going to hear! We would be going to hear two members of the late band Queen and Paul Rodgers. Even if you love this new tour, you will know it! This is NOT Queen!
That is not a question of opinion. It is a statement!
Rule with your heart and live with your conscience...
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*3* Forever88 wrote:
Don't try to ruin it for the people who never saw Queen live...bitch.


Your still not seeing Queen live THAT IS THE POINT. Brian and Roger are only using the name Queen to make more cash.
Paul Rodgers - "Gimp Of The Year 2006"
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englishyob wrote:
nothing wrong with my hearing what i heard was a new sound, the music of Queen played from a diffirent prospective


So if thats the case they offer nothing more than what a tribute band would. + a tribute band would not charge you £50.00 a ticket
Paul Rodgers - "Gimp Of The Year 2006"
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BHM 0271 wrote:
As tough as it is to wade through the mess that the children have made with this post, it's still possible to look at it with a fair perspective. The writer isn't BPP or Sharon. G, he writes for an American daily. His points are fair, he's not a Queen hater and he presents a point of view that a lot of people share. No matter how Brian and Roger present it, no matter the value of the Queen brand from a business point of view, it's one half of Queen performing Queen material. The Doors drummer successfully won a restraining order against the surviving members banning them from using the name "The Doors of the 21st Century." The legal argument is too long to detail but the judge sided with the drummer who said that he had no trouble with the other surving Doors playing Doors music, just not with the Doors name, because the Doors were 4 guys, not 2, and their most famous member by a mile was their singer. Sound familiar?



mercuryrocks wrote:
It is a great article! Especially the last two lines are SO TRUE!

I think that Brian and Roger are great musicians and they should have every right to still make music and tour. The point is that they are using the name QUEEN! They are NOT Queen! And everybody knows that! Queen are (as already mentioned like a 1000 times) John, Roger, Brian and Freddie!

Brian and Roger are great musicians so I think that they could have used another name. I think they would still get success. But obviously, they wanted success so bad that they used the name Queen. Then they were SURE that they would get success.

For example, my parents like Queen. They listened to Queen when they were young. But they were never fans like the members here on Queenzone are. The only member of the band that my parents remember and know the name of is Freddie Mercury. THAT IS THE POINT!
Queen were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie. Freddie could not do it without the others, but he is still the one that most people remember and the one that has made history because he is the greatest front man ever. That means: The new tour will really cheapen the memory of what Queen was all about! Queen were SO F***ING great, that if my parents went to a Queen concert now, they would get SO disappointed, and that would be such a shame!

It is really a shame to cheapen the memory of a band that was SO great! I know that many people really appreciate this new tour. And I am happy for them! But there are some Queen fans out there (including myself) that would expect to hear QUEEN if we would be going to one of the concerts on this tour. Obviously, that is not what we would be going to hear! We would be going to hear two members of the late band Queen and Paul Rodgers. Even if you love this new tour, you will know it! This is NOT Queen!
That is not a question of opinion. It is a statement!


BPP...maybe my post was too vague and diplomatic...but..I was trying to say that I agree with the writer...and with these 2 posters.

I want to see Brian and Roger, but I persoanlly still do NOT think they should call it Queen. Obviously they are doing it for the brand name to make money as so did the 2 members of the Doors because it does not sound quite as good to say...

''Brian May and Roger Taylor, perform the music of Queen with guest Paul Rodgers.''

It's the Queen brand name that sells those $200 tickets and they know it.

I have never been comfortable with them using the name though and I still agree to way back when this difference of opinion on this board started, when quite a few people used as the BEST argument I thought, that each member of The Beatles when they broke up, NEVER toured under the tag of The Beatles. They always used their own name, be it Paul or John, what have you.

But, that's because each member was a star in their own right.

Brian and Roger, much as I love them and much as Queen fans lov
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Arlene R. Weiss wrote:
BHM 0271 wrote:
As tough as it is to wade through the mess that the children have made with this post, it's still possible to look at it with a fair perspective. The writer isn't BPP or Sharon. G, he writes for an American daily. His points are fair, he's not a Queen hater and he presents a point of view that a lot of people share. No matter how Brian and Roger present it, no matter the value of the Queen brand from a business point of view, it's one half of Queen performing Queen material. The Doors drummer successfully won a restraining order against the surviving members banning them from using the name "The Doors of the 21st Century." The legal argument is too long to detail but the judge sided with the drummer who said that he had no trouble with the other surving Doors playing Doors music, just not with the Doors name, because the Doors were 4 guys, not 2, and their most famous member by a mile was their singer. Sound familiar?



mercuryrocks wrote:
It is a great article! Especially the last two lines are SO TRUE!

I think that Brian and Roger are great musicians and they should have every right to still make music and tour. The point is that they are using the name QUEEN! They are NOT Queen! And everybody knows that! Queen are (as already mentioned like a 1000 times) John, Roger, Brian and Freddie!

Brian and Roger are great musicians so I think that they could have used another name. I think they would still get success. But obviously, they wanted success so bad that they used the name Queen. Then they were SURE that they would get success.

For example, my parents like Queen. They listened to Queen when they were young. But they were never fans like the members here on Queenzone are. The only member of the band that my parents remember and know the name of is Freddie Mercury. THAT IS THE POINT!
Queen were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie. Freddie could not do it without the others, but he is still the one that most people remember and the one that has made history because he is the greatest front man ever. That means: The new tour will really cheapen the memory of what Queen was all about! Queen were SO F***ING great, that if my parents went to a Queen concert now, they would get SO disappointed, and that would be such a shame!

It is really a shame to cheapen the memory of a band that was SO great! I know that many people really appreciate this new tour. And I am happy for them! But there are some Queen fans out there (including myself) that would expect to hear QUEEN if we would be going to one of the concerts on this tour. Obviously, that is not what we would be going to hear! We would be going to hear two members of the late band Queen and Paul Rodgers. Even if you love this new tour, you will know it! This is NOT Queen!
That is not a question of opinion. It is a statement!


BPP...maybe my post was too vague and diplomatic...but..I was trying to say that I agree with the writer...and with these 2 posters.

I want to see Brian and Roger, but I persoanlly still do NOT think they should call it Queen. Obviously they are doing it for the brand name to make money as so did the 2 members of the Doors because it does not sound quite as good to say...

''Brian May and Roger Taylor, perform the music of Queen with guest Paul Rodgers.''

It's the Queen brand name that sells those $200 tickets and they know it.

I have never been comfortable with them using the name though and I still agree to way back when this difference of opinion on this board started, when quite a few people used as the BEST argument I thought, that each member of The Beatles when they broke up, NEVER toured under the tag of The Beatles. They always used their own name, be it Paul or John, what have you.

But, that's because each member was a star in their own right.

Brian and
Paul Rodgers - "Gimp Of The Year 2006"
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It only cheapens the name if YOU let it. So they've used the name? So what? If you, Poodle whatever can't make the distinction regardless of a name, then that's your problem. If people don't realise that this isn't Queen proper, then that's their problem. All I know it that there's a band that went out under a certain billing and it entertained. It wasn't the same, but it was good and they played great shows.

I never saw the "true" Queen, so again, I'm thankful for this. It's even better than Brian or Roger solo (which was also good) and I enjoyed all three shows - even Wembley.

You can have your opinion and so can the writer of the article, but in making your arguement you don't acknowledge that BR, RT and PR have stated openly in the press that this is SOMETHING NEW and DIFFERENT. They haven't in fact pretended it's something other than what we know it is, which is one half of Queen with PR and three backing musicians. The fact that they are using the name Queen is irrelevant to me.

An album of new material under the Queen label would probably be a different thing. But a tour and live CD/DVD of existing Queen songs is fine in my opinion.

In short, OPEN YOUR MIND. If you keep it closed, it'll just get dusty....
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