James, you asked me to tell you why I dislike Paul Rodgers and to back it up with facts. I've explained completely why I dislike him and have backed it up with reasoning, still you manage to argue about opinions. Your just taking examples and other things I say to explain my opinion, and you use them against me and explain how they're incorrect, while they have absolutely nothing to do with what's going on in the main topic. You're acting as if you're trying to prove my opinion wrong instead of just accepting opinion. I let you have your opinion, so let me have mine, and everyone's happy.
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Since when was Paul Rodgers so big in the US? I'm 27 and I don't know anyone my age who has even heard of him. Regardless of whether he was popular at one point, it appears that his music has not really withstood the test of time.
On the other hand, if you go around and talk to most young Americans, I can assure you that the only thing that they know about Queen (assuming that they know anything at all) is the name "Freddie Mercury". After all, Freddie really was the star of Queen. That is why people most people remember him and not the other three members. Every once in a while I will run into someone who also knows the name "Brian May", but it is not as common. He is not even in the almanac or under www.biography.com. Let's face it, Freddie is what most people know and remember about the band. Furthermore, it is worth asking why, if Brian and Roger are the equivalent of Queen, they have they not produced anything of significance in the past 15 years.
Because it can be argued that Freddie=Queen, it is definitely reasonable to argue that the current Queen+ Paul Rodgers tour is nothing more than what most Americans know it to be: a huge joke.
My final comment involves the fact that it is really annoying to hear Europeans complain about Americans' lack of taste in rock music. After all, we INVENTED rock and roll back in the 1950s. OK, it was actually mostly black Americans who invented it, but without them, there wouldn't be any rock and roll at all!
On the other hand, if you go around and talk to most young Americans, I can assure you that the only thing that they know about Queen (assuming that they know anything at all) is the name "Freddie Mercury". After all, Freddie really was the star of Queen. That is why people most people remember him and not the other three members. Every once in a while I will run into someone who also knows the name "Brian May", but it is not as common. He is not even in the almanac or under www.biography.com. Let's face it, Freddie is what most people know and remember about the band. Furthermore, it is worth asking why, if Brian and Roger are the equivalent of Queen, they have they not produced anything of significance in the past 15 years.
Because it can be argued that Freddie=Queen, it is definitely reasonable to argue that the current Queen+ Paul Rodgers tour is nothing more than what most Americans know it to be: a huge joke.
My final comment involves the fact that it is really annoying to hear Europeans complain about Americans' lack of taste in rock music. After all, we INVENTED rock and roll back in the 1950s. OK, it was actually mostly black Americans who invented it, but without them, there wouldn't be any rock and roll at all!
Since when was Paul Rodgers so big in the US? I'm 27 and I don't know anyone my age who has even heard of him. Regardless of whether he was popular at one point, it appears that his music has not really withstood the test of time.
On the other hand, if you go around and talk to most young Americans, I can assure you that the only thing that they know about Queen (assuming that they know anything at all) is the name "Freddie Mercury". After all, Freddie really was the star of Queen. That is why people most people remember him and not the other three members. Every once in a while I will run into someone who also knows the name "Brian May", but it is not as common. He is not even in the almanac or under www.biography.com. Let's face it, Freddie is what most people know and remember about the band. Furthermore, it is worth asking why, if Brian and Roger are the equivalent of Queen, they have they not produced anything of significance in the past 15 years.
Because it can be argued that Freddie=Queen, it is definitely reasonable to argue that the current Queen+ Paul Rodgers tour is nothing more than what most Americans know it to be: a huge joke.
My final comment involves the fact that it is really annoying to hear Europeans complain about Americans' lack of taste in rock music. After all, we INVENTED rock and roll back in the 1950s. OK, it was actually mostly black Americans who invented it, but without them, there wouldn't be any rock and roll at all!
its about time
im getting tired of everyone telling us americans that our opinion is wrong, and its pretty sad in the first place to tell somebody their opinions wrong by the way
you guys are not the owners of all of us, we have our opinions too, and, as this sensible young lady pointed out, we started rock, but strangely are not appreciated for it...<tsk> <tsk> <tsk>
i dislike the tour, but maybe you dont. fair enough, why do you guys have to keep bugging us about it?
i dislike the tour, but maybe you dont. fair enough, why do you guys have to keep bugging us about it?
How ironic, coming from the person who has said, dozens of times, "down with the tour".
As I have pointed out in previous threads, it is pretty obvious to most Americans that Freddie Mercury was defining element/star of Queen. In other bands, such as AC/DC, Van Halen or Led Zeppelin, the guitarists are as well or better known than the lead singers. This is not the case with Queen.
Even in the UK, it appears that people regard Freddie as the really important member of the band. For instance, Freddie figured prominently in the Millenium Poll a few years ago, in which 600,000 English people voted for their favorite musicians, songwriters, etc. Freddie was ranked pretty highly as a vocalist, a musician and as a songwriter. The only other member of the band who made it into the poll at all was Brian, who was was at #90 (or something like that) as a songwriter. Unlike Freddie, he was not voted as one of the top musicians.
I find it intersting that, on this very web site (www.queenzone.com) one year ago, a poll was done in which Freddie was overwhelmingly voted as the best songwriter. Furthermore, although John and Roger also got a chuck of the minority vote, it is fairly well documented that they received a lot of help from Freddie when they wrote their songs. In fact, Roger even admits that Freddie basically re-wrote both "A Kind of Magic" as well as "Radio Ga Ga". If you watch the "Magic Years" video, you can see evidence of Freddie basically dictating to Brian and Roger how to play (in this case, I think that it was "One Vision").
The other members of the band are very talented guys and they did in fact contribute a lot to Queen as well. However, when Kurt Cobain died, the other members of his band had the courtesy to change their name over to "Foo Fighters". Maybe they had legal rights to the name, but they still decided to do the respectful thing. If Brian and Roger are really such extraordinary musicians, then they, like the Foo Fighters, should have no problem attaining success under a new, more appropriate name.
I don't think that there is anything really wrong about going to the Queen + Paul Rodgers shows. Although it would be terribly depressing for me, other people might really enjoy it. On the other hand, I really question the loyalty of the "Queen fans" on this web site who are going around saying that Paul Rodgers is a "better singer" than Freddie. In fact, I find these people infinitely more offensive than the religious fanatics who are writing posts about how Freddie is "burning in hell". My final point is that I feel that it disrespectful of Roger and Brian to continue to use the name "Queen" in order to sell themselves.
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Even in the UK, it appears that people regard Freddie as the really important member of the band. For instance, Freddie figured prominently in the Millenium Poll a few years ago, in which 600,000 English people voted for their favorite musicians, songwriters, etc. Freddie was ranked pretty highly as a vocalist, a musician and as a songwriter. The only other member of the band who made it into the poll at all was Brian, who was was at #90 (or something like that) as a songwriter. Unlike Freddie, he was not voted as one of the top musicians.
I find it intersting that, on this very web site (www.queenzone.com) one year ago, a poll was done in which Freddie was overwhelmingly voted as the best songwriter. Furthermore, although John and Roger also got a chuck of the minority vote, it is fairly well documented that they received a lot of help from Freddie when they wrote their songs. In fact, Roger even admits that Freddie basically re-wrote both "A Kind of Magic" as well as "Radio Ga Ga". If you watch the "Magic Years" video, you can see evidence of Freddie basically dictating to Brian and Roger how to play (in this case, I think that it was "One Vision").
The other members of the band are very talented guys and they did in fact contribute a lot to Queen as well. However, when Kurt Cobain died, the other members of his band had the courtesy to change their name over to "Foo Fighters". Maybe they had legal rights to the name, but they still decided to do the respectful thing. If Brian and Roger are really such extraordinary musicians, then they, like the Foo Fighters, should have no problem attaining success under a new, more appropriate name.
I don't think that there is anything really wrong about going to the Queen + Paul Rodgers shows. Although it would be terribly depressing for me, other people might really enjoy it. On the other hand, I really question the loyalty of the "Queen fans" on this web site who are going around saying that Paul Rodgers is a "better singer" than Freddie. In fact, I find these people infinitely more offensive than the religious fanatics who are writing posts about how Freddie is "burning in hell". My final point is that I feel that it disrespectful of Roger and Brian to continue to use the name "Queen" in order to sell themselves.
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tiffany
'My final point is that I feel that it disrespectful of Roger and Brian to continue to use the name "Queen" in order to sell themselves.'
They are not selling themselves, they are selling the Queen music that they helped create in the first place. The majority of songs they play on tour are Queen songs, recorded as Queen and therefore universally known as Queen. It's not just about die hard Queen fans, we all know who, what, when and where the shows will be, they need to appeal to the general public as well. It makes good business sense to advertise as Queen+Paul Rogers to put bums on seats.
The ordinary non committed Queen fan is more likely to notice an advert in the paper that says Queen+PR than Lumpy Snot & The Nosepickers (feat. Brian May & Roger Taylor).
They are not selling themselves, they are selling the Queen music that they helped create in the first place. The majority of songs they play on tour are Queen songs, recorded as Queen and therefore universally known as Queen. It's not just about die hard Queen fans, we all know who, what, when and where the shows will be, they need to appeal to the general public as well. It makes good business sense to advertise as Queen+Paul Rogers to put bums on seats.
The ordinary non committed Queen fan is more likely to notice an advert in the paper that says Queen+PR than Lumpy Snot & The Nosepickers (feat. Brian May & Roger Taylor).
Lumpy Snot & The Nosepickers (feat. Brian May & Roger Taylor)is an insult to the memory of Freddie and Queen. All hail Freddie and only Freddie.
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