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vivival wrote:
Freddie Mercury is NOT a role model. His lifetime was nothing but engaging in promiscious sex with thousands of untold men, battling endless heroin addictions, excessive selfishness, materialism, loneliness, sodomy, and he didn't do nothing but become addicted to morphine and/or barbituates and engage in sodomy with over 1,500 gay men in his short little life. Freddie Mercury died as a very, very evil man. The one and ONLY role model for you is the Lord Jesus Christ, he shall be the role model for you, Unlike Freddie Mercury, who was nothing but a very, very evil man. How sad! How tragic! Where is he now? HELL!


How do you know he´s in Hell?? Are you God? I don´t think so.
-Things Have Changed For Me-
Yeah, I saw your post... sorry about the double posts, confusing everything!

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:
I got the dating of the gospels from my dad, who studied Comparative Religion, and of whom I thus expect an educated answer. He told me the scientifically accepted dating for the gospels is that they were written between AD 125 and AD 150, so around 100-120 years after the death of Christ. The only one earlier is the apocryphical "Gospel Of Thomas", which was apparently written by Judas Thomas Didymus, who was an apostle and supposedly a brother of Jesus, but this gospel consists of no more than a list of quotes by Jesus.


Yeah, the Gospel of Thomas is thought by some to have been written as early as the 50s. But wow, that's the latest dating I've ever seen for the canonical gospels. I'm very curious... on what grounds did your dad's instructor (or books) date them so late?

Personally, I agree with the (now) standard dating of 70s for Mark, 80s-90s for Matt/Luke, and 100+ for John. You can see the so-called "Christology" getting stronger and stronger if you read it chronologically as such. The fact that the gospels appear in the bible anachronistically themselves, not to mention they appear before Paul's writings, which is also anachronistic, has always bothered me very much, as it has led to massive misinterpretation throughout history - but that's a whole other topic!

I'm no scholar myself, but there is much evidence in the gospels that they were written after the temple was destroyed (70 CE), but I'm not so sure about a later time bracket. So I'm curious to hear your reply!
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<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:
I'll have to ask my dad about that in the morning, I'll post his answer tomorrow (it's 23:30 here, so he's asleep).


Alright, I'm looking forward to reading it. If I don't come here in a day or two, then just email me about it!

Hahaha, you can see how I edited my post, because you quoted the original. :P
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You know..the kingdom of Heaven isn't a democracy. God doesn't tally up the votes of it's citizens to define what is acceptable behavior and what isn't.

You people act as if your opinions of what is right and wrong count. They don't matter.

Only God's inviolate Laws matter.

And God shall judge the world through these laws.

Can you deal with that?


According to God's laws, Freddie was a sinner, and like any other human, unless he believed in Jesus Christ, he is destined to hell.
SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:
According to God's laws, Freddie was a sinner, and like any other human, unless he believed in Jesus Christ, he is destined to hell.



Who are you to say who God is, what God wants, or if there is even a God? You cannot present a statement as fact containing something which hasn't been proven. Do not quote scripture, as that is dubious grounds for presenting facts, for almost countless reasons. God is not an absolute, because not everyone agrees. The fact that I'm writing this message on a computer is an absolute. Nobody can debate that. God is not an absolute. If one chooses to accept God as an absolute for themselves, that is a different story, however.

But suffice to say, I'm ashamed to be living in a world (in the 21st century, at that) where religious bigots such as yourself are still allowed to walk the streets and talk like you do. I can only hope you'll grow up and realize that you don't have to accept a bunch of 1900-year-old mythology as truth to live a good and healthy life.
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Keep in mind that another absolute is that one day, we all die. Death is a certainty.

Your theories about the afterlife are nothing more than fanciful wishes.

The difference between you and me is, I've become saved, and have had my spiritual eyes open. You are still in the dark, clueless about what life really is.

You haven't a clue, and if you don't wise up, you will one day have to answer to God for your life.
OK, you know what, this post is stupid and immature... Freddie was just like evryone else in this shitty world. He's only human for crying out loud. He made mistakes, but you know, everyone does it's not something you can prevent from happening. I love Freddie, always have and to think that people are talking shit about him now he's gone is very disrespectful. I'm not saying I liked everything Freddie did, but it was his life to live and he lived it the way he wanted to. How dare you say that his lifestyle was a bad thing. It wasn't the best thing, but it was what he wanted. You guys who disagree with what Freddie did with his own life just need to shut up, because not everyone lives the same way and it's not like he was the only musician who lived that way so just stop. The point that I'm trying to make is that he was only human, so he made plenty of mistakes that changed his life, but who are you to say how he should have been.... God, chill out!!
SIMPLE

FREDDIE MERCURY = FREDDIE MERCURY
Loser in the end!!!
oh god...why am i even doing this...ok, where does it say that Freddie abused alcohol (or drugs, for that matter) and who cares if he was bloody homosexual? what should that have to do with anything? he lived that lifestyle and personally, it doesnt matter to me, because it was what he chose to do and i cant do anything about it, so why whine about it? and AIDs has nothing to do with promiscuity (i probably spelled it wrong, but u get it) yes, it increases the chance, but it's something everybody struggles with! as for being a role model...yes, he can be for some, inculding me. he was a great man who's music changed the lives of many. i also get from him that he had a very kind heart and a strong soul. he remains to be one of my role models.......now Roger, on the other hand.....^.^
Freddie Mercury is my sexi moon lobster "Mis francais est la meme que before. C'est un peu crap"-Brian May "I'm just a musical prostitute, my dear!" -Freddie Mercury
Remeber that Jesus Had no Use for the so called righteuos. Be careful How you use JC as a reference because he problay would have forgiven FM for his so called sins as you call them....forever 88 dad
Nonono, you don't understand, that is NOT why I have this gerbil!
People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
Elijah Griffith 11/10/2002-1/18/2005..In the arms of Angels, fly away.........
He's nice though, he loves kids. Who cares about his flamboyant lifestyle.
i get your point, but u cant just say that Christianity is all about power....unless you've had experience with that religion, you shouldn't judge it. that's alos something that's been going on for years...
Freddie Mercury is my sexi moon lobster "Mis francais est la meme que before. C'est un peu crap"-Brian May "I'm just a musical prostitute, my dear!" -Freddie Mercury
lol this site is saturated in trolls. threads like these should be instantly deleted. Honestly, some people are extremely sad creating topics such as these.

PS This is 2006 and the devil is dead. If we're dealing with anything, it's an angry God so stop describing Freddie Mercury or anyone else in such a manner that simply relfects your own human nature and its pathetic weaknesses to scorn people you dont even know or will ever know.
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:
SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:
Keep in mind that another absolute is that one day, we all die. Death is a certainty.

Your theories about the afterlife are nothing more than fanciful wishes.

The difference between you and me is, I've become saved, and have had my spiritual eyes open. You are still in the dark, clueless about what life really is.

You haven't a clue, and if you don't wise up, you will one day have to answer to God for your life.


I see it as you being deluded and close-minded.

You don't, and cannot, know what happens after death, and by stating that there is a God, your God, and dismissing everyone else, you are doing the same thing religion has been doing for centuries: brainwashing people into being mindless zombies to aid the top layer of organized religion.

Christianity isn't about God, it's about power.


I know what happens after death. Nothing. You die then that's it.

Also what you said about Christianity is true.
"I bet you lost your virginity to a mechanical bull"