A guy of 13 years old is "cureable" and deserves a second chance... At that age, the parents are responsible and need to be punished in some way.
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That's horrid... Britain needs to implement a death penalty for scum like this.
Could you murder a 16 year old?
So is Mary Bell.
"I am actually pro death penalty when it comes to very serious crimes, and I think that anyone above 13 has the ability to consciously commit a very serious crime. Only after a lot of deliberation and a fair trial the death penalty might be given to a juvenile."
Looks like you have to move to Somalia if you want children executed because the rest of the world thinks that is really outrageous. But to be serious: Not executing criminals does not mean to let them go free. There are jails for juvenile criminals and there is therapy. Killing does not solve anything, it only brutalizes the society. The society has a right to be protected against convicted killers but killing them is not the answer. Just think about the 70 proven cases of wrongly executed alleged murderers in the Unites States - that alone is a reason to stop the killing.
Looks like you have to move to Somalia if you want children executed because the rest of the world thinks that is really outrageous. But to be serious: Not executing criminals does not mean to let them go free. There are jails for juvenile criminals and there is therapy. Killing does not solve anything, it only brutalizes the society. The society has a right to be protected against convicted killers but killing them is not the answer. Just think about the 70 proven cases of wrongly executed alleged murderers in the Unites States - that alone is a reason to stop the killing.
I don't agree with killing any minor but rather putting them on death row. I think it's important to send these kids through rehab first. By the time they reach adulthood they could be given a trial in which their behavior through rehab will be analized. If they truly show conscience and regret of their actions, they could possibly be taken out of death row, and perhaps given a life sentence, or a lower the sentence for this matter.
You will find more times than not, children are a product of their environment. If a junvenille commits a crime, there should be a punishment but it should not be death. Take the child out of the environment they are currently in, attach a punishment to the crime (jail, detention center), but also provide rehabilitation and therapy. Juvenilles can be rehabilitated, especially if they can be released in to a healthy environment. This isn't the case in all situations, but the majority.
And then you "rehabilitate" them and they walk out of prison and kill more people. There should never be a second chance for murderers. Victims rights NEED to come before killers' rights.
We should universally in every nation...
- cut off the hands of thieves
- punish those filthy homosexuals with a public impalement (with a giant dildo naturally)
- crucify those who act in an un-godly manner and those who dare not attend church on sundays
- bring back lynching... it perks up any sunday
- ban inter-racial marriages (naturally)
(homo moronicus-dumbassicus may not marry homo sapiens anymore)
- have a goverment ran "ethically sound" and "compassionate" program of eugenics to improve the "racial" qualities of citizens. And to prevent those poor bastards from breeding...
- Remember that I'm right and you're wrong and on the internet that's all that matters! na na na naa naa
There, now let's all act upon this list to truly "heal the world" and make it a better place, for you and for me and the entire human race...
- cut off the hands of thieves
- punish those filthy homosexuals with a public impalement (with a giant dildo naturally)
- crucify those who act in an un-godly manner and those who dare not attend church on sundays
- bring back lynching... it perks up any sunday
- ban inter-racial marriages (naturally)
(homo moronicus-dumbassicus may not marry homo sapiens anymore)
- have a goverment ran "ethically sound" and "compassionate" program of eugenics to improve the "racial" qualities of citizens. And to prevent those poor bastards from breeding...
- Remember that I'm right and you're wrong and on the internet that's all that matters! na na na naa naa
There, now let's all act upon this list to truly "heal the world" and make it a better place, for you and for me and the entire human race...
And then you "rehabilitate" them and they walk out of prison and kill more people. There should never be a second chance for murderers. Victims rights NEED to come before killers' rights.
Of course in your book Mark Fuhrman deserves a second chance after he commited perjury (a felony) based on his racist views.
Why the murderer doesn't deserve a second chance but the racist felon does? This is something that simply doesn't make sense.
If you think this is bad take a look at the James Bulger case,
http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/bulger/
These 2 killers are out now with secret identities living a life of riley.
This was really one of the worst murder cases I can ever remember in the UK. What they did is beyond belief.
I remember that, it happened the year I lived in the UK. Even aged 7 I was still shocked.
You could compare Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme over here, remember the film Heavenly Creatures? They had their identities changed and were allowed to go and make their own lives, and as far as I know neither of them committed any more crimes. One of them now lives in Scotland and is a crime writer.
So maybe for juvenile offenders there is some hope of rehabilitation
I still don't advocate the death penalty for anyone though.
You could compare Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme over here, remember the film Heavenly Creatures? They had their identities changed and were allowed to go and make their own lives, and as far as I know neither of them committed any more crimes. One of them now lives in Scotland and is a crime writer.
So maybe for juvenile offenders there is some hope of rehabilitation
I still don't advocate the death penalty for anyone though.
And then you "rehabilitate" them and they walk out of prison and kill more people. There should never be a second chance for murderers. Victims rights NEED to come before killers' rights.
Of course in your book Mark Fuhrman deserves a second chance after he commited perjury (a felony) based on his racist views.
Why the murderer doesn't deserve a second chance but the racist felon does? This is something that simply doesn't make sense.
Because Fuhrman never took anyone's life. Sure, people were offended by his remarks. As a Hispanic woman, I was offended myself. But the people who were offended by Fuhrman's mouth can get up and go home to their families. People that are murdered cannot.
Sure, FGT, something like that would never happen in the USA with all the death penalty preventing it...
absolutely right Barbara!! it's NO deterrent
but look at the positive - you don't get repeat offenders
Agree but Martin more repeat murderers get off scott free anyhow here in the US because the ''system'' seems to always either have some legal technicality or some bleading heart.
Here in Maryland 2 legal age Illegal Alien/Illegal Immigrant Hispanic men, slaughtered and DECAPITATED their OWN, 3 nieces and nephews (all small children)..to retaliate to their OWN family, because the 2 men had paid money to their family to hide them from US Immigration Authorities, but were found out...
... due to a stupid hung jury who could not reach a verdict, so the 2 murderers got off scott free.
SUCKS as so does what happened to that poor man who died defending his son over there.
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Wow, I'm glad we have someone here who has studied the psychological patterns of murderers for years and thus truly understands them in all cases. I think you should run for president next term.
USA is the only country in the western world that has such a high percentage of ultra-conservatives. Shouldn't that tell the rest of us something about the way that country is run, and how it manipulates young people into believing there is no alternative to the death penalty, among so many other outrageous, irrational, and bigoted ideas? Gah, it's best not to think about it. YV, Jingles, and Lisser are talking sense here. I can only hope that more and more children will grow up to be like you.
Think about it. These people can ONLY get worse as they get older and stronger. Someone has already died because of these scumbags.
And then you "rehabilitate" them and they walk out of prison and kill more people. There should never be a second chance for murderers. Victims rights NEED to come before killers' rights.
Wow, I'm glad we have someone here who has studied the psychological patterns of murderers for years and thus truly understands them in all cases. I think you should run for president next term.
USA is the only country in the western world that has such a high percentage of ultra-conservatives. Shouldn't that tell the rest of us something about the way that country is run, and how it manipulates young people into believing there is no alternative to the death penalty, among so many other outrageous, irrational, and bigoted ideas? Gah, it's best not to think about it. YV, Jingles, and Lisser are talking sense here. I can only hope that more and more children will grow up to be like you.
Since it's a scientific fact that peoples brains aren't fully developed until sometime around age 16, I can't support a death penalty for minors regardless of circumstances.
I do however object to the ridiculous habit of letting violent offenders out when they turn 18 and sealing their records. I think certain crimes should automatically keep the person, regardless of age, away from society permanently.
I do however object to the ridiculous habit of letting violent offenders out when they turn 18 and sealing their records. I think certain crimes should automatically keep the person, regardless of age, away from society permanently.