Well, after all this MEGA PF news (and the Bruce Springsteen's Born To Run package looks great too), IF that description of ANATO we've been told is true, I have to agree that QP are really falling in shame...
And I have another example: see the Oasis' Definitely Maybe 2004 re-issue. It has got live performances for ALL the songs, promos when available and a documentary about the album!
Anyway, I'm really excited about PULSE, it has completely shadowed my enthusiasm for the ANATO re-re-re-release..
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhoun wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]BHM 0271 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've found Brian to treat his Soapbox as a positive thing (fans saying "I love the musical, tour, Pepsi commercial" etc.) unless he's outraged. Remember the hoopla over the supposed backing tape for Fat Bottomed Girls? Brian "heard" how people were commenting on it after the 46664 concert. He posted on his Soapbox that the band must sound pretty good if people think tapes were being used. So he heard of that (from this board probably), but he didn't hear about the use of backing tapes for Ga Ga or TATDOOL? I find that impossible. Or selective reading. So for the record, there are no backing tapes used for FBG because Brian said so. There are also no backing tapes used in Ga Ga or TATDOOL because the question about backing tapes doesn't exist. And the musical is brilliant because it sells tickets, and the ridiculous storyline is wonderful because people stand and cheer. And the ANATO 30th Anniversary edition will be fantastic and if you don't like it you're wrong. [/QUOTE]
Sounds like Brian should work for the Bush administration.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and the cover for ROTC (by the way, what a great innovative titel) is so unbelievably fantastic and far ahead of its time that the contemporaries are not yet capable to get the brilliance. We are not worthy of something that great, only Brian May appreciates it. Normally we should pay an extra prize only for the cover artwork.
Sounds like Brian should work for the Bush administration.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and the cover for ROTC (by the way, what a great innovative titel) is so unbelievably fantastic and far ahead of its time that the contemporaries are not yet capable to get the brilliance. We are not worthy of something that great, only Brian May appreciates it. Normally we should pay an extra prize only for the cover artwork.
come on guys. Don't be that negative. Just wait and see what we'll get. There is no real good total reliable information about this dvd so far , so just wait and judge when you see it. I think all the dvd's so far were VERY GOOD. So far Queen doesn't have any bad dvd. So just wait...wait...wait...wait till the 30th anniversary of ANATO.
I also think it's strange that there's been no press release about it, though I heard the news from Japanese Queen official web site...QP is too humble for it???
Anyway just wait.
Anyway just wait.
JDL, there's a thing called track record. Queen's track record for the better part of 15 years (the Hollywood track errors, bad artwork, terrible promotion, product that is released solely for profit, Pink, Robbie Williams, 5ive, countless WWRY tracks, the Pepsi fiasco, quality issues with all DVD's) is brutal, and shows that people like you are the people Queen are targeting. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, they're in the business of separating people's dollars from their wallets, quality be damned. If you want to pay for shit, knock yourself out. A lot of us expect the worst now from QP, and are seldom disappointed.
When is this ANATO dvd coming out in the USA? I never hear anything about it.
Is there a feature list for this thing anywhere? I'd find it myself but I'm about to go out.
Both the Wembley and Bowl DVDs were fantastic, and honestly, I have a slight feeling that this one will be just as good. Yes, the songs will have crappy videos, but I think there is going to be a fantastic disc 2. Hammersmith 75 footage and studio demos?
Oh yeah, that reminds me... whatever happened to all the studio albums being re-released as 2 discs - the second discs consisting purely of demos?
Oh yeah, that reminds me... whatever happened to all the studio albums being re-released as 2 discs - the second discs consisting purely of demos?
They're due out right after the BBC sessions.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zeni wrote: [/QUOTENAME]As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.[/QUOTE]
God bless Arthur Carlson, Herb Tarlick and Les Nessman.
God bless Arthur Carlson, Herb Tarlick and Les Nessman.
Apparently Box Sets are on the cards again in 2009... So said Greg, so said Jim Beach, so said (apparently) E.M.I... So i think 2CD releases were either abandoned or never intended to be out. And I really wouldn't count in Hammy'75 on the second disc... That would have been HUGE surprise, but... nah, after all those years I'm really expecting the worst...
Lester - good to hear from you again mate!
Brian doesn't respond to anything that he doesn't get to see - I believe that Jen ONLY allows positive material / comment to reach Brian for his opinion. What he doesn't know won't hurt him and all that. Brian's no Pete Townshend; he's a great musician but certainly no genius - Pete (as a genius) is more able to take criticism and negativity on board - he deals with it in a very constructive way: Member of the audience - "Get on with it!"; Pete - "Fuck off - it's my show!", whereas Brian (as a great guitarist) has no idea of how to deal with it - you only have to go back to some of his more embarassing rants on the Soapbox as an illustration and that can only be because "someone" isn't exposing him to it. I seem to remember somewhere that Brian was always happy to sign / be photographed by fans as he believed that it was they who got him to the position that he is in today - all of a sudden, he's publicly berating those same people for doing just that.
In one way, it's a good thing - Brian can concentrate on what it important AT THE MOMENT - ie taking Q+PR forward into 2006 and extended studio work. I honestly believe that they could create an absolutely top notch album that would be fitting as a showcase for all of their talents - Danny Miranda especially IMO. If this is a way to facilitate that creative spark, then I'm all for it.
However, what Brian then fails to be able to grasp is that there is a MASSIVE upswelling of negativity towards the history of the band AS A DIRECT RESULT of the decision making that has lead to the abandonment of the originally planned 2 x CD sets for this shoddily concepted 30th Anniversary release. Look at the material that is being put out by artists such as The Who, Springsteen, Cream, Joplin, Gaye, Kinks, Marley, Frampton et al. The addition of live material or expanded outtakes and alternate versions serve to place the original (in a remastered or re-mixed form) in a fuller context as well as enabling the record company to place the original album back in the shops and attract a potential new generation of listeners that have not been exposed to it before.
I honestly don't believe that ANATO released in the format we have been forewarned about will sell more than a few thousand copies - hence the lack of marketing / publicity. It's just not worth EMI's time, just as it's not worth £15 of anyone's hard-earned.
Brian doesn't respond to anything that he doesn't get to see - I believe that Jen ONLY allows positive material / comment to reach Brian for his opinion. What he doesn't know won't hurt him and all that. Brian's no Pete Townshend; he's a great musician but certainly no genius - Pete (as a genius) is more able to take criticism and negativity on board - he deals with it in a very constructive way: Member of the audience - "Get on with it!"; Pete - "Fuck off - it's my show!", whereas Brian (as a great guitarist) has no idea of how to deal with it - you only have to go back to some of his more embarassing rants on the Soapbox as an illustration and that can only be because "someone" isn't exposing him to it. I seem to remember somewhere that Brian was always happy to sign / be photographed by fans as he believed that it was they who got him to the position that he is in today - all of a sudden, he's publicly berating those same people for doing just that.
In one way, it's a good thing - Brian can concentrate on what it important AT THE MOMENT - ie taking Q+PR forward into 2006 and extended studio work. I honestly believe that they could create an absolutely top notch album that would be fitting as a showcase for all of their talents - Danny Miranda especially IMO. If this is a way to facilitate that creative spark, then I'm all for it.
However, what Brian then fails to be able to grasp is that there is a MASSIVE upswelling of negativity towards the history of the band AS A DIRECT RESULT of the decision making that has lead to the abandonment of the originally planned 2 x CD sets for this shoddily concepted 30th Anniversary release. Look at the material that is being put out by artists such as The Who, Springsteen, Cream, Joplin, Gaye, Kinks, Marley, Frampton et al. The addition of live material or expanded outtakes and alternate versions serve to place the original (in a remastered or re-mixed form) in a fuller context as well as enabling the record company to place the original album back in the shops and attract a potential new generation of listeners that have not been exposed to it before.
I honestly don't believe that ANATO released in the format we have been forewarned about will sell more than a few thousand copies - hence the lack of marketing / publicity. It's just not worth EMI's time, just as it's not worth £15 of anyone's hard-earned.
That is a masterful post Benn.
Excellent post Benn, however, to say that "Brian's no Pete Townshend; he's a great musician but certainly no genius" is not right. Brian is a musical genius. If you don't think that Good Company is genius, or the solo on Bo Rhap, or the orchestrations on GSTQ, to name but 3 examples, I don't know what genius is.
Personally, I don't think Brian should have ever started his soapbox - "if you can't take the heat, step out of the kitchen". He more or less set himself up for more direct communication, and I don't think he was prepared for it. Now, instead of everything being directed through Queen Productions, he gets it (almost) straight from the horse's mouth, meaning he's susceptible to every kind of fan question, demand, request, rant, etc. that can be directed his way. It's really a shame, because he sounds like a very nice guy, but to believe that you would get very nice things all the time is just absurd.
His rants on public smoking I can see, even though I don't agree with them; his rants on war shouldn't have been posted, even though I agree with them; his little problem with orbs was just... well, I won't go there; but his passion for the music is what I want to read. People asking him interesting things about the music or what's coming up or whatever is the bread and butter of Brian's site. I think he goes into overkill mode every now and then, and if he responded to every single criticism that a journalist out there has to say, then I get the feeling that everyone would stop reading what he had to say. You can't please everyone all the time, and negative criticism will still be out there, so why try to fight it?
And I WANT to believe that this 30th anniversary will be something special, but honestly... a DVD of music videos? I'm sorry, but if that's the only bonus they can think up, then I won't need to worry about giving up $25 of my cash for this. I suppose the sad thing is that people expect a lot more in terms of re-releases now - a bonus disc crammed with a whole lot of goodies, or an extra DVD of a live show. Maybe a liner booklet of previously unpublished photos with a lengthy essay by the musicians himself or a specialized historian.
Unfortunately, I don't believe that will be the case here. I haven't seen any rumblings of a second CD, just a bonus DVD. However, if there does happen to be a second CD, then I might reconsider this package. It's just what I've come to expect of reissues, whether they're by Costello, Cream, Yes, The Who, or Pavement, for crying out loud. Give the people what they want? Only as long as it's cost-effective for Queen Productions and EMI, I suppose.
His rants on public smoking I can see, even though I don't agree with them; his rants on war shouldn't have been posted, even though I agree with them; his little problem with orbs was just... well, I won't go there; but his passion for the music is what I want to read. People asking him interesting things about the music or what's coming up or whatever is the bread and butter of Brian's site. I think he goes into overkill mode every now and then, and if he responded to every single criticism that a journalist out there has to say, then I get the feeling that everyone would stop reading what he had to say. You can't please everyone all the time, and negative criticism will still be out there, so why try to fight it?
And I WANT to believe that this 30th anniversary will be something special, but honestly... a DVD of music videos? I'm sorry, but if that's the only bonus they can think up, then I won't need to worry about giving up $25 of my cash for this. I suppose the sad thing is that people expect a lot more in terms of re-releases now - a bonus disc crammed with a whole lot of goodies, or an extra DVD of a live show. Maybe a liner booklet of previously unpublished photos with a lengthy essay by the musicians himself or a specialized historian.
Unfortunately, I don't believe that will be the case here. I haven't seen any rumblings of a second CD, just a bonus DVD. However, if there does happen to be a second CD, then I might reconsider this package. It's just what I've come to expect of reissues, whether they're by Costello, Cream, Yes, The Who, or Pavement, for crying out loud. Give the people what they want? Only as long as it's cost-effective for Queen Productions and EMI, I suppose.