[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Arlene R. Weiss wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I really love Robbie! *watches out for flying eggs*[/QUOTE]
*starts throwing eggs at Arlene*[/QUOTE]
*joins in...using Dinosaur-eggs...petrified*[/QUOTE]
I love snowball fights!, but I love Dinosaur eggs fights MORE!
*picks up a giant one and wings it at Thomas* ;)
Mine's a petrified Tyranasuarus Rex!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]IT'S NOT like here in America WE DON'T GET IT when it comes to idolizing a British heartrob.
George Michael matured a hell of a lot as an artist after he went solo and buried his own Wham! image. Robbie Williams on the other hand acts far more juvenile than he did on his 'Take That' days. George Michael was as big here in the States as he was across the pond, and the general public respected him, and his fan base wasn't only teens, young girls, middle aged women, and gay men.
There's no doubt of who has more talent between those 2.[/QUOTE]
Jingles, I thorughloy agree. I am in no way comparing George's IMMENSE talent to Robbie's ok talent.
But....George has ''retired'' from music and Robbie has some talent and for NEW music, I'd sure as hell rather listen to him than, what are my choices again...50Cent and Ashley Simpson?
I WISH George would start recording again but he became so disgusted by the music industry, who would no longer promote his records..because of people like 50 cent and Ashlee, that he just threw in the towel in disgust.
It did my heart good to see George Michael ''guest'' with Paul McCartney at the Live 8 Finale and perform live for the first time in years.
George Michael matured a hell of a lot as an artist after he went solo and buried his own Wham! image. Robbie Williams on the other hand acts far more juvenile than he did on his 'Take That' days. George Michael was as big here in the States as he was across the pond, and the general public respected him, and his fan base wasn't only teens, young girls, middle aged women, and gay men.
There's no doubt of who has more talent between those 2.[/QUOTE]
Jingles, I thorughloy agree. I am in no way comparing George's IMMENSE talent to Robbie's ok talent.
But....George has ''retired'' from music and Robbie has some talent and for NEW music, I'd sure as hell rather listen to him than, what are my choices again...50Cent and Ashley Simpson?
I WISH George would start recording again but he became so disgusted by the music industry, who would no longer promote his records..because of people like 50 cent and Ashlee, that he just threw in the towel in disgust.
It did my heart good to see George Michael ''guest'' with Paul McCartney at the Live 8 Finale and perform live for the first time in years.
I might hate Robbie Williams but compared to 50 Cent or Ashlee Simpson I hold the guy in high respect.
The whole record industry in America is fucked up. After the Orange Bowl and SNL there's still too many fuckin' dumb teens buying Ashlee Simpson's new album. Her latest album went to #1 outselling both Stevie Wonder and Depeche Mode.
The whole record industry in America is fucked up. After the Orange Bowl and SNL there's still too many fuckin' dumb teens buying Ashlee Simpson's new album. Her latest album went to #1 outselling both Stevie Wonder and Depeche Mode.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I might hate Robbie Williams but compared to 50 Cent or Ashlee Simpson I hold the guy in high respect.
The whole record industry in America is fucked up. After the Orange Bowl and SNL there's still too many fuckin' dumb teens buying Ashlee Simpson's new album. Her latest album went to #1 outselling both Stevie Wonder and Depeche Mode.[/QUOTE]
I heard and if tyou think that sucks, every week I drive to Washington to go to our Tower Records as they carry TONS more CD's/artists and magazines, including from the U.K./imports, and better stuff than the chain crap stores like Best Buy.
But...what do you think the last 2-3 years even Tower STICKS up front in the store to most heavily promote....dah...50 cent, Kanye West, The Game, Ashlee Simpson, Hilary Duff. BLUAHHHHHHHHH!!!
Thank goodness they DO carry TONS of Cd's by Queen and classic rockers, and music genres like blues and world, and they have a separate room that is soundproofed from the rock room just for Classical music and opera, that I read in.
But my point is that what they PROMOTE, what they prominently stick up front, is the CRAP!
You know what they ALWAYS play over the sound speaker system at Tower...Rap, and Rave/electronica! UGHHHHHH!
You know I learn more about music and get to hear more great bands, artists, music, by learning about them from well...by reading and /or listening to them on things things like Queenzone, the web, British music and entertainment Magazines, etc.
Damn, I HATE regular radio. I barely ever listen to it anymore unless it's a special like ''I Love The 80's weekend'' or a classic rock station.
What happened to the music industry in the USA?
It all but died in the early to mid 90's starting with grunge and then rap and now electronica/rave/trance.
The whole record industry in America is fucked up. After the Orange Bowl and SNL there's still too many fuckin' dumb teens buying Ashlee Simpson's new album. Her latest album went to #1 outselling both Stevie Wonder and Depeche Mode.[/QUOTE]
I heard and if tyou think that sucks, every week I drive to Washington to go to our Tower Records as they carry TONS more CD's/artists and magazines, including from the U.K./imports, and better stuff than the chain crap stores like Best Buy.
But...what do you think the last 2-3 years even Tower STICKS up front in the store to most heavily promote....dah...50 cent, Kanye West, The Game, Ashlee Simpson, Hilary Duff. BLUAHHHHHHHHH!!!
Thank goodness they DO carry TONS of Cd's by Queen and classic rockers, and music genres like blues and world, and they have a separate room that is soundproofed from the rock room just for Classical music and opera, that I read in.
But my point is that what they PROMOTE, what they prominently stick up front, is the CRAP!
You know what they ALWAYS play over the sound speaker system at Tower...Rap, and Rave/electronica! UGHHHHHH!
You know I learn more about music and get to hear more great bands, artists, music, by learning about them from well...by reading and /or listening to them on things things like Queenzone, the web, British music and entertainment Magazines, etc.
Damn, I HATE regular radio. I barely ever listen to it anymore unless it's a special like ''I Love The 80's weekend'' or a classic rock station.
What happened to the music industry in the USA?
It all but died in the early to mid 90's starting with grunge and then rap and now electronica/rave/trance.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Arlene R. Weiss wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Arlene R. Weiss wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I really love Robbie! *watches out for flying eggs*[/QUOTE]
*starts throwing eggs at Arlene*[/QUOTE]
*joins in...using Dinosaur-eggs...petrified*[/QUOTE]
I love snowball fights!, but I love Dinosaur eggs fights MORE!
*picks up a giant one and wings it at Thomas* ;)
Mine's a petrified Tyranasuarus Rex![/QUOTE]
*Attempts answering but finds it extremely difficult with a cracked skull and half a petrified egg in his mouth*[/QUOTE]
*puts band aid on Thomas's cracked skull, wipes off T-Rex egg yolk and plays a Queen record* Better? :D
*starts throwing eggs at Arlene*[/QUOTE]
*joins in...using Dinosaur-eggs...petrified*[/QUOTE]
I love snowball fights!, but I love Dinosaur eggs fights MORE!
*picks up a giant one and wings it at Thomas* ;)
Mine's a petrified Tyranasuarus Rex![/QUOTE]
*Attempts answering but finds it extremely difficult with a cracked skull and half a petrified egg in his mouth*[/QUOTE]
*puts band aid on Thomas's cracked skull, wipes off T-Rex egg yolk and plays a Queen record* Better? :D
Music is always a matter of taste but we should talk about the music and not about how we would like the musician to behave.
What I hear against Robbie Williams sounds familiar, doesn't it? It was also said about Freddie decades ago: that he is arrogant and his behaviour outrageous. How can a line like 'Here I stand victorious, the only man to make you come' create any disgust in a country that is flooded with hateful, sexist and violent rap lyrics day and night?
I like the new Robbie Williams album. It's different but that is a good thing. He takes some risks instead of playing safe. If he is not big in The USA - who cares. Not all US artists are big in Europe, either.
What I hear against Robbie Williams sounds familiar, doesn't it? It was also said about Freddie decades ago: that he is arrogant and his behaviour outrageous. How can a line like 'Here I stand victorious, the only man to make you come' create any disgust in a country that is flooded with hateful, sexist and violent rap lyrics day and night?
I like the new Robbie Williams album. It's different but that is a good thing. He takes some risks instead of playing safe. If he is not big in The USA - who cares. Not all US artists are big in Europe, either.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Music is always a matter of taste but we should talk about the music and not about how we would like the musician to behave.
What I hear against Robbie Williams sounds familiar, doesn't it? It was also said about Freddie decades ago: that he is arrogant and his behaviour outrageous. How can a line like 'Here I stand victorious, the only man to make you come' create any disgust in a country that is flooded with hateful, sexist and violent rap lyrics day and night?
I like the new Robbie Williams album. It's different but that is a good thing. He takes some risks instead of playing safe. If he is not big in The USA - who cares. Not all US artists are big in Europe, either.
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YV, as you know I live in the USA and I HATE the sexist, violent, misogynist lyrics of rap and alot of country music as well.
As for that lyric on Robbie's album, I'm just expressing my opinion that that particular song lyric, did not win me over any.
I much prefer songs like ''Angels'' or ''Millennium''.
Then again, I LOVE his duet with Kylie Minogue, ''Kids'', and I heard it a gazillion times, then realized some of the lyrics are about...sodomy? OK... By the time I found out that lyric, I had already learned to love the song, but....that lyric still bothers me and I wish it wasn't in there. Just my opinion.
And, I agree that Freddie was considered outrageous and arrogant, which for all I know, may have been part of the reason Queen didn't crack America, just like Robbie or vice versa.
BUT...I find Robbie a very talented singer/songwriter/live performer/showman.
Guess when you get down to it, every darn singer or band I have ever loved, has at least ONE song or lyric that rubs me wrong.
....BUT...I still like the artist/band, just not the lyric or song.
For instance...Heart is one of my all time favorite bands, but I HATE their song that condones drugs...Magic Man.
Eric Clapton is one of my all time favorite artists...but I HATE his song condoning drugs, Cocaine.
...One of the WORST OFFENDERS!!!!....I like the Rolling Stones, but ''Under My Thumb'' is one of the most sexist, misogynist, arrogant songs I think...of ALL TIME! OMG!!!!!.......
If I picked apart every artist/band I love, I would find something that wrankles me about a particular song or lyric.
This just happens to be the one with Robbie.
Tell you what...if I ever met the guy and had my whack at him...he better put his money where his mouth is on that line!
LOL!!!!!
What a rooster he is!!!!
LOL!!!!
What I hear against Robbie Williams sounds familiar, doesn't it? It was also said about Freddie decades ago: that he is arrogant and his behaviour outrageous. How can a line like 'Here I stand victorious, the only man to make you come' create any disgust in a country that is flooded with hateful, sexist and violent rap lyrics day and night?
I like the new Robbie Williams album. It's different but that is a good thing. He takes some risks instead of playing safe. If he is not big in The USA - who cares. Not all US artists are big in Europe, either.
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YV, as you know I live in the USA and I HATE the sexist, violent, misogynist lyrics of rap and alot of country music as well.
As for that lyric on Robbie's album, I'm just expressing my opinion that that particular song lyric, did not win me over any.
I much prefer songs like ''Angels'' or ''Millennium''.
Then again, I LOVE his duet with Kylie Minogue, ''Kids'', and I heard it a gazillion times, then realized some of the lyrics are about...sodomy? OK... By the time I found out that lyric, I had already learned to love the song, but....that lyric still bothers me and I wish it wasn't in there. Just my opinion.
And, I agree that Freddie was considered outrageous and arrogant, which for all I know, may have been part of the reason Queen didn't crack America, just like Robbie or vice versa.
BUT...I find Robbie a very talented singer/songwriter/live performer/showman.
Guess when you get down to it, every darn singer or band I have ever loved, has at least ONE song or lyric that rubs me wrong.
....BUT...I still like the artist/band, just not the lyric or song.
For instance...Heart is one of my all time favorite bands, but I HATE their song that condones drugs...Magic Man.
Eric Clapton is one of my all time favorite artists...but I HATE his song condoning drugs, Cocaine.
...One of the WORST OFFENDERS!!!!....I like the Rolling Stones, but ''Under My Thumb'' is one of the most sexist, misogynist, arrogant songs I think...of ALL TIME! OMG!!!!!.......
If I picked apart every artist/band I love, I would find something that wrankles me about a particular song or lyric.
This just happens to be the one with Robbie.
Tell you what...if I ever met the guy and had my whack at him...he better put his money where his mouth is on that line!
LOL!!!!!
What a rooster he is!!!!
LOL!!!!
Since I was a kid, I always hated that Cyndie Lauper song "She Bop"
...then when I learned that the song was about masturbation I started liking it.
...then when I learned that the song was about masturbation I started liking it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Since I was a kid, I always hated that Cyndie Lauper song "She Bop"
...then when I learned that the song was about masturbation I started liking it.[/QUOTE]
LOL! :D
...then when I learned that the song was about masturbation I started liking it.[/QUOTE]
LOL! :D
Got my copy of Intensive Care (along the bonus dvd) today. I'm highly pleased. Watching the documentary on the dvd before listening did help me to "dig deeper" into the meanings and meaninglessnes of certain songs.
Out of the songs, "Advertising Space" has made the most impact on me.
Now, if the best Guy Chambers can do without Robbie is *swear word* like "Real to Me" and "Irish Son" (both with Brian McFadden) then I feel sorry for the man. Hope he re-unites with Robbie in songwriting, because judging by the McFadden etc. stuff he needs Robbie more than Robbie needs him.
Out of the songs, "Advertising Space" has made the most impact on me.
Now, if the best Guy Chambers can do without Robbie is *swear word* like "Real to Me" and "Irish Son" (both with Brian McFadden) then I feel sorry for the man. Hope he re-unites with Robbie in songwriting, because judging by the McFadden etc. stuff he needs Robbie more than Robbie needs him.
ANNOUNCING Robbie's WORLD TOUR 2006!!!!!!!!!
Ends with Wembley Stadium! Tockets go on sale 11/19/2005. All tour dates, venues, cities, below!!!!
(Nothing in the USA) :-(
http://www.nme.com/news/robbie-williams/21467
Ends with Wembley Stadium! Tockets go on sale 11/19/2005. All tour dates, venues, cities, below!!!!
(Nothing in the USA) :-(
http://www.nme.com/news/robbie-williams/21467
I got one thing to say...
Robbie's "Spread Your Wings" is wonderful, unlike that utter piece of rubbish by Queen. Then again it doesn't take much to beat 4th grader lyrics like "Sammy was low, just watching the show..." June'n'Spoon...
Robbie's "Spread Your Wings" is wonderful, unlike that utter piece of rubbish by Queen. Then again it doesn't take much to beat 4th grader lyrics like "Sammy was low, just watching the show..." June'n'Spoon...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oh and Robbie is rock'n'roll. Live with it.
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You gotta be kidding me :P
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You gotta be kidding me :P
As I said, according to this article he is NOT releasing ''Intensive Care'' at all in the USA, since he can't sell records here, even though it's #1 in the UK and across Europe.
http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=6447
http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=6447
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why do the Americans get saved while the Europeans get stuck with him?
I mean, after all the Americans elected Bush. They can use some punishment.[/QUOTE]
What, 50 Cent, Ashlee Simpson and Britney aren't punishment enough! LOL!
I mean, after all the Americans elected Bush. They can use some punishment.[/QUOTE]
What, 50 Cent, Ashlee Simpson and Britney aren't punishment enough! LOL!