This band has turned to shit ever since freddie died. It's sad what has happened to this great band. Freddie where are you?...cos the queen machine are lost without you.
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I tend to agree that the band should have finished after Freddie died, with the execption of NOBY, which, in an ideal world, should have been included on the MIH album. My opinion is that all the time the band is still limping on, all we are going to get are these shitty rip-off releases, which QPL know we are all mugs enough to keep buying. Why turn out two DVD-As of the same bloody album, when there are still all the other albums to remix for 5.1?
I actually think that the cut & pasting of mixed footage has improved a great deal since DoRo stopped doing it, but if you want to use inaccurate informatin to criticise this, go ahead...
ROTC bits?
Most annoying thing for me is these ROTC bits... I'm not a kinda BPP guy, but WTF? What a need to mix NATO with these current Q+PR things?! I hated when they've put the musical name on any new release and now there's the same story with Q+PR.
Most annoying thing for me is these ROTC bits... I'm not a kinda BPP guy, but WTF? What a need to mix NATO with these current Q+PR things?! I hated when they've put the musical name on any new release and now there's the same story with Q+PR.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Serry... wrote: [/QUOTENAME]ROTC bits?
Most annoying thing for me is these ROTC bits... I'm not a kinda BPP guy, but WTF? What a need to mix NATO with these current Q+PR things?! I hated when they've put the musical name on any new release and now there's the same story with Q+PR.[/QUOTE]
I have not seen the new DVD yet - but have ordered it. But if this is true that ROTC stuff is on it, I feel it does NOT belong on there as ANATO is a QUEEN (as in Freddie, Rog, Bri & John collaboration) - NOT Paul Rogers. New footage does NOT belong on this ,unless it is with the REAL QUEEN FULL BAND members surely??????
Most annoying thing for me is these ROTC bits... I'm not a kinda BPP guy, but WTF? What a need to mix NATO with these current Q+PR things?! I hated when they've put the musical name on any new release and now there's the same story with Q+PR.[/QUOTE]
I have not seen the new DVD yet - but have ordered it. But if this is true that ROTC stuff is on it, I feel it does NOT belong on there as ANATO is a QUEEN (as in Freddie, Rog, Bri & John collaboration) - NOT Paul Rogers. New footage does NOT belong on this ,unless it is with the REAL QUEEN FULL BAND members surely??????
Looks like crap. Not gonna buy it!
Calm down... the only footage of ROTC is Brian singing '39. Crikey guys, you lot act like it's life or death...!
Got my copy in the post today, and have watched the videos... it's a decent job for what it is, and the surround mixes are excellent (which I'd never heard any previous version before). The menu on the DVD is fantastic!
For all those people having heart-attacks I think you need to just sit down and relax a minute... okay, it *would* be nice to have out-takes demos etc, but they are for the Anthologies... it *would* be nice to have Hammy Odeon '75 as an audio or video extra, but as Kes has said many times, the BBC own rights etc so don't expect that immediately. We get the CD in the best possible version, we get the album in fabulous surround sound with visuals to add, we get audio commentary... and we get nice packaging with booklet. Considering EMI were only going to re-release the old album on it's own, I would say this is the best release situation at the moment.
For all those people having heart-attacks I think you need to just sit down and relax a minute... okay, it *would* be nice to have out-takes demos etc, but they are for the Anthologies... it *would* be nice to have Hammy Odeon '75 as an audio or video extra, but as Kes has said many times, the BBC own rights etc so don't expect that immediately. We get the CD in the best possible version, we get the album in fabulous surround sound with visuals to add, we get audio commentary... and we get nice packaging with booklet. Considering EMI were only going to re-release the old album on it's own, I would say this is the best release situation at the moment.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Darren Robins wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Calm down... the only footage of ROTC is Brian singing '39. Crikey guys, you lot act like it's life or death...![/QUOTE]
When Brian put live version of FBG from ROTC on that his air guitar compilation CDs, when footages of recently released DVD are on collector's edition of album which was released 30 years ago, etc. etc. etc. - it's ridiculous! There's no need to promote ROTC DVD in collector's edition of NATO, IMHO!
Audio commentary and package? Sorry, but if you name this release as COLLECTOR edition, then you need to make something more than just good package and audio commentaries. It's an anniversary re-release of NATO, nothing more.
When Brian put live version of FBG from ROTC on that his air guitar compilation CDs, when footages of recently released DVD are on collector's edition of album which was released 30 years ago, etc. etc. etc. - it's ridiculous! There's no need to promote ROTC DVD in collector's edition of NATO, IMHO!
Audio commentary and package? Sorry, but if you name this release as COLLECTOR edition, then you need to make something more than just good package and audio commentaries. It's an anniversary re-release of NATO, nothing more.
As Fred once said: "Whatever you do darling, do it as bad as you can!"
...or did he say "...do it with style"? I´m so confused... Fred where are you?
It´s only one more year to go until the "30th Anniversary of A Day at the Races"...
...so better "get your ass down here again" as soon as possible!!! :-)))
...or did he say "...do it with style"? I´m so confused... Fred where are you?
It´s only one more year to go until the "30th Anniversary of A Day at the Races"...
...so better "get your ass down here again" as soon as possible!!! :-)))
No, I'm not comlaining about the lack of bonus material in this one. A (very) critical review of this release as it is:
Picked up my copy yesterday. Took it off the shelve, turned it around and went... "Oh shit, all that crap again!" First title, DOTL, they forgot to close the brackets of (dedicated to...
Unbelievable! There is a dot instead of a bracket! Can't they be just a little bit more precise?? I realy don't understand that nobody notices these kind of mistakes and type-errors on a sleeve...
Second though: it's a nice package in all!
Then on to playing the DVD...
The surround mix sounds indeed very clear and it is a very creative one. BUT! I personally don't agree on some elements of the mix.
Probably because it is so clear, there is a repetitive dynamics problem. There are not enougs 'balls' in it. In the quieter songs and segments it sounds awesome. But when the band should sound like they ROCK - it just sounds flat.
Also I found some choises in the mix just wrong. Yes it is nice to hear things you never heard before. But the balance between auiable and non-audiable as on the ORIGINAL, is wrong.
Lots of times essensial elements of the music (a voice, a guitar lick etc...) that is clearly audiable on the original is now way down in the mix and in some cases even inaudiable. Though some parts that are inaudiable on the original are nog way up in the mix, making some songs just sound wrong. I miss things! That one voice in the higher region that gives me goosebums every time I hear the original. Or some little detail that I always notice on the original that gave a certain song just that little bit extra.
Again: I love to hear things that I never heard before, but letting sounds fall out of the mix just changes the character of some songs too much.
The menu is just great!
The video's...
Mixed feelings. I think the tracks with the live-footage DO work. It's impossible to make a studio version mime exactly what you see in a live version. All in all, considering the fact that Queen changed temp and structure of songs a LOT live, they did a pretty decent job in editing.
There are images of Houston, Hyde Park, Earls Court and even Hammersmith 79 running through one another. I expected to get a 'Rare Live'-kinda annoying cut n past feeling - but I did not.
Nice to see some unseen footage and pictures in there.
And as a matter of fact I even DO like the ROTC images in '39. The song is about time-travelling and yes I do see the artistic choise in that as very nice.
Though I have to say that I expected a bit more of the newly recorded images of Brian and his acoustic, the koto and the harp. The only thing you see is his fingertips and the only thing that points out that this in fact IS Brian May we're watching, is that we can recognise his fingernails. :-)
BUT...
The image quality of YMBF video is bad. Way too grainy.
Seaside Rendezvous and Good Company - sure they are creative enough and artistically decent as a film, but same as with some video's on Queen Rocks totally irrelevant as a QUEEN-video. I would even have preferred a picture gallary as on LOASA.
The audio commentary overal is very nice.
Though to hear Brian say "when you listen to My Fairy King on the Queen II album", made me sigh - of course I forgive him for making a mistake, and I realy don;t make a big deal out of this. But it is just very typical, regarding all the other sloppy mistakes.
Is there more to complain?
There just HAD to be...
The vinyl version...
Great stuff - very nice item.
BUT - once again the same mistakes on the sleeve! In other words: they did not even take the effort to do a seperate design - they just copy-pasted both the cd and vinyl sleeves from the same piece of computertext. Or is the guy that designed everything THAT sloppy that he makes the same mistake twice?
Though I bought it still sealed, and I compared a couple of copies - they all had the same thing: the vinyl
Picked up my copy yesterday. Took it off the shelve, turned it around and went... "Oh shit, all that crap again!" First title, DOTL, they forgot to close the brackets of (dedicated to...
Unbelievable! There is a dot instead of a bracket! Can't they be just a little bit more precise?? I realy don't understand that nobody notices these kind of mistakes and type-errors on a sleeve...
Second though: it's a nice package in all!
Then on to playing the DVD...
The surround mix sounds indeed very clear and it is a very creative one. BUT! I personally don't agree on some elements of the mix.
Probably because it is so clear, there is a repetitive dynamics problem. There are not enougs 'balls' in it. In the quieter songs and segments it sounds awesome. But when the band should sound like they ROCK - it just sounds flat.
Also I found some choises in the mix just wrong. Yes it is nice to hear things you never heard before. But the balance between auiable and non-audiable as on the ORIGINAL, is wrong.
Lots of times essensial elements of the music (a voice, a guitar lick etc...) that is clearly audiable on the original is now way down in the mix and in some cases even inaudiable. Though some parts that are inaudiable on the original are nog way up in the mix, making some songs just sound wrong. I miss things! That one voice in the higher region that gives me goosebums every time I hear the original. Or some little detail that I always notice on the original that gave a certain song just that little bit extra.
Again: I love to hear things that I never heard before, but letting sounds fall out of the mix just changes the character of some songs too much.
The menu is just great!
The video's...
Mixed feelings. I think the tracks with the live-footage DO work. It's impossible to make a studio version mime exactly what you see in a live version. All in all, considering the fact that Queen changed temp and structure of songs a LOT live, they did a pretty decent job in editing.
There are images of Houston, Hyde Park, Earls Court and even Hammersmith 79 running through one another. I expected to get a 'Rare Live'-kinda annoying cut n past feeling - but I did not.
Nice to see some unseen footage and pictures in there.
And as a matter of fact I even DO like the ROTC images in '39. The song is about time-travelling and yes I do see the artistic choise in that as very nice.
Though I have to say that I expected a bit more of the newly recorded images of Brian and his acoustic, the koto and the harp. The only thing you see is his fingertips and the only thing that points out that this in fact IS Brian May we're watching, is that we can recognise his fingernails. :-)
BUT...
The image quality of YMBF video is bad. Way too grainy.
Seaside Rendezvous and Good Company - sure they are creative enough and artistically decent as a film, but same as with some video's on Queen Rocks totally irrelevant as a QUEEN-video. I would even have preferred a picture gallary as on LOASA.
The audio commentary overal is very nice.
Though to hear Brian say "when you listen to My Fairy King on the Queen II album", made me sigh - of course I forgive him for making a mistake, and I realy don;t make a big deal out of this. But it is just very typical, regarding all the other sloppy mistakes.
Is there more to complain?
There just HAD to be...
The vinyl version...
Great stuff - very nice item.
BUT - once again the same mistakes on the sleeve! In other words: they did not even take the effort to do a seperate design - they just copy-pasted both the cd and vinyl sleeves from the same piece of computertext. Or is the guy that designed everything THAT sloppy that he makes the same mistake twice?
Though I bought it still sealed, and I compared a couple of copies - they all had the same thing: the vinyl
WOW!!!
this goes straight with...
Metallica's St Anger
The Queen toilet roll
and Britney Spears wanting to meet me!!!
I understand times are hard, but come on, this is realy digging the dirt from the bottom of the barrell...
this goes straight with...
Metallica's St Anger
The Queen toilet roll
and Britney Spears wanting to meet me!!!
I understand times are hard, but come on, this is realy digging the dirt from the bottom of the barrell...
Jeroen - does the DVD have a new surround mix, i.e. does it have a 5 channel mix instead of the 4 channels in the old DVD-Audio?
I just watched the clips on QOL and I feel really bad when I see the excellent quality footage of Houston, Earls Court, Hyde Park and Hammersmith Odeon. We are shown all the great stuff but we cannot buy it. This is what I would love to spend money for: original unreleased Queen material.
I agree about the ROTC stuff, it does not belong on the ANATO edition, it's like re-writing history. Same with Brian on the roof - and we even have this already on DVD.
They should look at the Bruce Springsteen Born To Run edition, it's time too re-learn how a good package is produced.
I just watched the clips on QOL and I feel really bad when I see the excellent quality footage of Houston, Earls Court, Hyde Park and Hammersmith Odeon. We are shown all the great stuff but we cannot buy it. This is what I would love to spend money for: original unreleased Queen material.
I agree about the ROTC stuff, it does not belong on the ANATO edition, it's like re-writing history. Same with Brian on the roof - and we even have this already on DVD.
They should look at the Bruce Springsteen Born To Run edition, it's time too re-learn how a good package is produced.
I haven`t listened to it yet, but Brian Would never put out something that bad (Soundwise speacking). In the past, we at Queenzone discussed all the mistakes of production in a NATO, now that they`ve fixed it, we say that those mistakes gave the album that extra flavour, etc.
Sometimes we suck, and it must be difficult for them to please us, because we don`t really know what we want.
TAke care
Sometimes we suck, and it must be difficult for them to please us, because we don`t really know what we want.
TAke care
"They should look at the Bruce Springsteen Born To Run edition, it's time too re-learn how a good package is produced."
Well, there arn't any out-takes on that set either, and I've heard the concert DVD is poorly lit. Allegedly, the CD itself sounds no different to the previous Born To Run releases. But i neither have or am a fan of Bruce to know for myself :-P
"I agree about the ROTC stuff, it does not belong on the ANATO edition, it's like re-writing history. Same with Brian on the roof - and we even have this already on DVD."
Since Paul Rodgers is no-where to be seen, it doesn't really matter if they've used Brian-only footage from ROTC, since they used other footage from periods later than the time of ANATO release anyway (Housten, Earls Court '77, Hammersmith '79 etc). I thought Brian singing '39 from ROTC worked well because the song is about time travel.
Well, there arn't any out-takes on that set either, and I've heard the concert DVD is poorly lit. Allegedly, the CD itself sounds no different to the previous Born To Run releases. But i neither have or am a fan of Bruce to know for myself :-P
"I agree about the ROTC stuff, it does not belong on the ANATO edition, it's like re-writing history. Same with Brian on the roof - and we even have this already on DVD."
Since Paul Rodgers is no-where to be seen, it doesn't really matter if they've used Brian-only footage from ROTC, since they used other footage from periods later than the time of ANATO release anyway (Housten, Earls Court '77, Hammersmith '79 etc). I thought Brian singing '39 from ROTC worked well because the song is about time travel.