I'm thankful they didn't make a follow-up to The Game. I can't stand it's lack of rock and horrid production. I think that album was the start of a more minmal direction for Queen and anyway, John was becomnig a fan of disco and freddie's Munich lifestyle was set to the disco tunes so I think it was fairly inevitable anyway. For me the albums from The Game to A king Of magic were poor, which is no surprise as I think that mack did them no favours at all.
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Here is my honest opinion, I have always, and will always stand by this.
1) I think the first Queen album blows everyones "beloved" Queen 2 out of the water...it's not even close.
2) I like Hot Space better than Queen 2.
If Queen would have kept releasing albums that sounded like Queen 2....I would not be a Queen fan.
The song "Dancer" for example, on Hot Space always gets ridiculed.... but I like it MUCH better than alot of Brian's other songs, and I REALLY do like it better than anything written by Brian on the "treasured" Queen 2 album.
1) I think the first Queen album blows everyones "beloved" Queen 2 out of the water...it's not even close.
2) I like Hot Space better than Queen 2.
If Queen would have kept releasing albums that sounded like Queen 2....I would not be a Queen fan.
The song "Dancer" for example, on Hot Space always gets ridiculed.... but I like it MUCH better than alot of Brian's other songs, and I REALLY do like it better than anything written by Brian on the "treasured" Queen 2 album.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kdj2hot wrote: [/QUOTENAME][/QUOTE]
Um, youngsters? By youngsters do you mean old queens in their 40's who were young in the early 80's? [/QUOTE]
Errrr....no.
Um, youngsters? By youngsters do you mean old queens in their 40's who were young in the early 80's? [/QUOTE]
Errrr....no.
This reponse is to Sharon.G First of all Queen 1 and 2 are egual, Maybe you hav't listend to that album enought times to grasp the tunes on that record,Maybe try giving her a thousand more spins,and call me back! God Bless,no offense intended.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sharron .G wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Here is my honest opinion, I have always, and will always stand by this.
1) I think the first Queen album blows everyones "beloved" Queen 2 out of the water...it's not even close.
2) I like Hot Space better than Queen 2.
If Queen would have kept releasing albums that sounded like Queen 2....I would not be a Queen fan.
The song "Dancer" for example, on Hot Space always gets ridiculed.... but I like it MUCH better than alot of Brian's other songs, and I REALLY do like it better than anything written by Brian on the "treasured" Queen 2 album.
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WHAT?!!!! You've got to be kidding!!! Right?
1) I think the first Queen album blows everyones "beloved" Queen 2 out of the water...it's not even close.
2) I like Hot Space better than Queen 2.
If Queen would have kept releasing albums that sounded like Queen 2....I would not be a Queen fan.
The song "Dancer" for example, on Hot Space always gets ridiculed.... but I like it MUCH better than alot of Brian's other songs, and I REALLY do like it better than anything written by Brian on the "treasured" Queen 2 album.
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WHAT?!!!! You've got to be kidding!!! Right?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]A Word In Your Ear wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sharron .G wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Here is my honest opinion, I have always, and will always stand by this.
1) I think the first Queen album blows everyones "beloved" Queen 2 out of the water...it's not even close.
2) I like Hot Space better than Queen 2.
If Queen would have kept releasing albums that sounded like Queen 2....I would not be a Queen fan.
The song "Dancer" for example, on Hot Space always gets ridiculed.... but I like it MUCH better than alot of Brian's other songs, and I REALLY do like it better than anything written by Brian on the "treasured" Queen 2 album.
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WHAT?!!!! You've got to be kidding!!! Right?[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with HOT SPACE though, Just that QUEEN 2 is way better.
1) I think the first Queen album blows everyones "beloved" Queen 2 out of the water...it's not even close.
2) I like Hot Space better than Queen 2.
If Queen would have kept releasing albums that sounded like Queen 2....I would not be a Queen fan.
The song "Dancer" for example, on Hot Space always gets ridiculed.... but I like it MUCH better than alot of Brian's other songs, and I REALLY do like it better than anything written by Brian on the "treasured" Queen 2 album.
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WHAT?!!!! You've got to be kidding!!! Right?[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with HOT SPACE though, Just that QUEEN 2 is way better.
The problem with Hot Space is...
... a lot of the regular Queen fans refused to buy it due to it's disco... but it made a lot of other fans due to the fact they enjoyed the fast paced dance Queen.
... a lot of the regular Queen fans refused to buy it due to it's disco... but it made a lot of other fans due to the fact they enjoyed the fast paced dance Queen.
People ridicule Hot Space for the different sound and style - not just the "Disco" side but what one or two people have mentioned here about "The Game" sounding different musically prior to this is largely forgotten.
With every Queen album people will say they would have done something different in terms of the tracklisting and I'm no different; but I like Hot Space as an album because it is something different....
Because of the reaction generally to Hot Space, The Works in a lot of ways is a "Greatest Hits" re-hash....and as Brian has been quoted as saying with regards to the making of Hot Space, the band threw away anything that sounded like they had done it before.
With every Queen album people will say they would have done something different in terms of the tracklisting and I'm no different; but I like Hot Space as an album because it is something different....
Because of the reaction generally to Hot Space, The Works in a lot of ways is a "Greatest Hits" re-hash....and as Brian has been quoted as saying with regards to the making of Hot Space, the band threw away anything that sounded like they had done it before.
No,
I've given the Queen 2 album all the chances I am going to give it....when I owned my music store, it probably played 1,000 times over the course of 10 years.
I really think its boring, and I feel it is not near the quality of music that Queen offered on their first album.
March of the Black Queen is cool, Nevermore is great, but too short, and Roger's Loser in the end is probably my 3rd fav song on Queen 2....
The rest of the album is blah for me.
I love Queen 1, I love Sheer Heart Attack....(the 2 albums that happen before and after Queen 2 of course)
....but I never cared for Queen 2.
I was disappointed the first time I heard it.... 20 years later, and 1,000 listens later....I still am.
I think that fans try EXTRA HARD to want to believe that Queen 2 is great, as it contains no real singles..... much like many Elton John fans (such as myself) sight Elton's "Tumbleweed connection" album as their favorite....which really, contains none of his well known hits.
The difference in this case for me is, Elton's Tumbleweed album has about 4 songs on it that could have been just as big as his biggest hits....had they been released as singles.
The Queen 2 album doesn't have any real know hits, because the 3 best songs all have issues.
1) March of the Black Queen- A Freddie masterpiece which would not appeal to 98% of any listening audience anywhere. (my wife and kids hate this song)
2) Nevermore- too short
3) Loser in the end- A underated Roger song which is better than anything Brian has on this album....obvious a non-Freddie sang song can't be a single.
I've given the Queen 2 album all the chances I am going to give it....when I owned my music store, it probably played 1,000 times over the course of 10 years.
I really think its boring, and I feel it is not near the quality of music that Queen offered on their first album.
March of the Black Queen is cool, Nevermore is great, but too short, and Roger's Loser in the end is probably my 3rd fav song on Queen 2....
The rest of the album is blah for me.
I love Queen 1, I love Sheer Heart Attack....(the 2 albums that happen before and after Queen 2 of course)
....but I never cared for Queen 2.
I was disappointed the first time I heard it.... 20 years later, and 1,000 listens later....I still am.
I think that fans try EXTRA HARD to want to believe that Queen 2 is great, as it contains no real singles..... much like many Elton John fans (such as myself) sight Elton's "Tumbleweed connection" album as their favorite....which really, contains none of his well known hits.
The difference in this case for me is, Elton's Tumbleweed album has about 4 songs on it that could have been just as big as his biggest hits....had they been released as singles.
The Queen 2 album doesn't have any real know hits, because the 3 best songs all have issues.
1) March of the Black Queen- A Freddie masterpiece which would not appeal to 98% of any listening audience anywhere. (my wife and kids hate this song)
2) Nevermore- too short
3) Loser in the end- A underated Roger song which is better than anything Brian has on this album....obvious a non-Freddie sang song can't be a single.
I have to disagree with sharon, Queen2 rules and loser in the end is one of my least favorite queen songs ever, but I do agree it's a required taste, it's not for everyone. It's my favorite queen album, but in some ways, sha, anato and adatr are better albums. I like Hot space, It's probably one of my least favorites, but theirs only two songs i don't like "dancer" and "body language" the rest is good.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I think the songs aren't actually that bad and it ISN'T the worst album of theirs[/QUOTE]
Really? Which of their albums is worse than Hot Space, in your opinion? LOL
Well I find it to be the worst, although there are a few songs on it that I really like. It's just, there are a few tracks which are so terrible it really lowers the quality! :-)
Of course it is stilla Queen album, and therefore, it is great just the same...
Great question, Andy. I had never thought about it. It's very likely that the success of AOBTD has influenced the direction the album took.
I think the songs aren't actually that bad and it ISN'T the worst album of theirs[/QUOTE]
Really? Which of their albums is worse than Hot Space, in your opinion? LOL
Well I find it to be the worst, although there are a few songs on it that I really like. It's just, there are a few tracks which are so terrible it really lowers the quality! :-)
Of course it is stilla Queen album, and therefore, it is great just the same...
Great question, Andy. I had never thought about it. It's very likely that the success of AOBTD has influenced the direction the album took.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Really? Which of their albums is worse than Hot Space, in your opinion? LOL
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I absolutely can't stand WORKS- it's plain boring and the production sucks big time. Some of the songs are good- but you can really appreciate them live (Ga-Ga, IWTBF, Hammer To Fall). And it contains fillers like "Man on the Prowl" or "Machines". It's awful IMO.
Another worse than "Hot Space" is AKOM- basically a bunch of songs, not an album, as chaotic as possible- some songs again are good (POTU, WWTLF), but some are absolutely the lowest point of their careers (Pain / Pleasure, "Don't Lose Your head", even "Friends...") Again- IMO.
And let's not forget FLASH- THIS is the worst Queen album IMO.
Hot Space is above those. The rest is better, MUCH better
Really? Which of their albums is worse than Hot Space, in your opinion? LOL
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I absolutely can't stand WORKS- it's plain boring and the production sucks big time. Some of the songs are good- but you can really appreciate them live (Ga-Ga, IWTBF, Hammer To Fall). And it contains fillers like "Man on the Prowl" or "Machines". It's awful IMO.
Another worse than "Hot Space" is AKOM- basically a bunch of songs, not an album, as chaotic as possible- some songs again are good (POTU, WWTLF), but some are absolutely the lowest point of their careers (Pain / Pleasure, "Don't Lose Your head", even "Friends...") Again- IMO.
And let's not forget FLASH- THIS is the worst Queen album IMO.
Hot Space is above those. The rest is better, MUCH better
Ditto. I'd also add Jazz to the list.
Queen 2 is a fantastic album. I don't have to try hard to like it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Corrector writes: [/QUOTENAME] This reponse is to Sharon G. First of all, Queen 1 and 2 are equal. Maybe you haven't listened to that album enough times to grasp the tunes on that record. Try giving her a thousand more spins and call me back!
God Bless, no offense intended.[/QUOTE]
The only thing offensive is the grammar. I think Queen II is much better, but I'm more of a "Hard Rock" fan.
God Bless, no offense intended.[/QUOTE]
The only thing offensive is the grammar. I think Queen II is much better, but I'm more of a "Hard Rock" fan.