[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]it was electric7 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I noticed that too!!!! I was like...you make him seem like he lived in a cage and had no friends!!! i was a bit angry!!! i started crying, whenever they mention his damn death on tv i cant help but cry[/QUOTE]
Yes, me too. When i read MERCURY AND ME and QUEEN THE DEFINITIVE BIO as well, i bawled like a baby. Its not like i didnt know it was coming. But its so hard to accept sometimes. Just as it is when anyone dies. Its still hard to accept ive lost so many people in my own life as well.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]as it began wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]as it began wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.[/QUOTE]
You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.[/QUOTE]
And you really can't point fingers at me with yer little sarcastic statement because you "knew him" just as much as I did.
Man.... some people just have bugs up their asses.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I didn't know him at all.
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Exactly my point.
You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.[/QUOTE]
And you really can't point fingers at me with yer little sarcastic statement because you "knew him" just as much as I did.
Man.... some people just have bugs up their asses.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I didn't know him at all.
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Exactly my point.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DreaminQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]it was electric7 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I noticed that too!!!! I was like...you make him seem like he lived in a cage and had no friends!!! i was a bit angry!!! i started crying, whenever they mention his damn death on tv i cant help but cry[/QUOTE]
Yes, me too. When i read MERCURY AND ME and QUEEN THE DEFINITIVE BIO as well, i bawled like a baby.[/QUOTE]
Where can you get "Freddie Mercury and me"?????? I wanna read it.
Yes, me too. When i read MERCURY AND ME and QUEEN THE DEFINITIVE BIO as well, i bawled like a baby.[/QUOTE]
Where can you get "Freddie Mercury and me"?????? I wanna read it.
it is well established fact (amongst any long-standing queen fans) and common knowledge - that freddie was lonely
he openly admitted to feelings of loneliness from the time that queen hit the bigtime until he settled down (which was after he became HIV)
also - Freddie was no saint...don't try to make out he was a one-man-man, he openly admitted to his own promiscuity for years....even going as far to admit that for a handful of years he shagged any bloke he could get hold of...even taking two or three back to his hotel a ta a time
please don't try and paint FM as some misunderstood, saintly icon..when he was about as filthy dirty and drug abusing as they come in rock n roll
he openly admitted to feelings of loneliness from the time that queen hit the bigtime until he settled down (which was after he became HIV)
also - Freddie was no saint...don't try to make out he was a one-man-man, he openly admitted to his own promiscuity for years....even going as far to admit that for a handful of years he shagged any bloke he could get hold of...even taking two or three back to his hotel a ta a time
please don't try and paint FM as some misunderstood, saintly icon..when he was about as filthy dirty and drug abusing as they come in rock n roll
Hello everyone....I just joined this site after lurking for awhile.
Those VH1 list type shows are usually salacious and often snarky. I haven't caught the one being discussed, but I will keep my eye open for it.
I think Freddie is perceived in different ways depending on the fan. I am older and have had the history of observing the evolution of Freddie and Queen since the 1970's.
Younger fans may not realize that promiscuous sexual behavior was almost a social expectation in cool circles in the 70's. It isn't fair to place a moral judgement on that behavior from the perspective of today. Back in the 70's AIDS was unheard of. Recreational drug use was also commonplace and pretty much an expected lifestyle among rock musicians.....these were days before crack, the Meth epidemics and the culture of Drug Rehab.
Of course, I didn't know Freddie personally. I do know that it is not unusual for very successful people to feel lonely even while surrounded by others. The sadness and feelings of alienation are probably what made Freddie's songs so compelling to us. We could all relate to his words because we could sense his angst and conversely his joy and excitement.
Screw VH1 and their lame countdown. I don't seem to recall VH1 having much interest in Queen or Freddie until his death.
Those VH1 list type shows are usually salacious and often snarky. I haven't caught the one being discussed, but I will keep my eye open for it.
I think Freddie is perceived in different ways depending on the fan. I am older and have had the history of observing the evolution of Freddie and Queen since the 1970's.
Younger fans may not realize that promiscuous sexual behavior was almost a social expectation in cool circles in the 70's. It isn't fair to place a moral judgement on that behavior from the perspective of today. Back in the 70's AIDS was unheard of. Recreational drug use was also commonplace and pretty much an expected lifestyle among rock musicians.....these were days before crack, the Meth epidemics and the culture of Drug Rehab.
Of course, I didn't know Freddie personally. I do know that it is not unusual for very successful people to feel lonely even while surrounded by others. The sadness and feelings of alienation are probably what made Freddie's songs so compelling to us. We could all relate to his words because we could sense his angst and conversely his joy and excitement.
Screw VH1 and their lame countdown. I don't seem to recall VH1 having much interest in Queen or Freddie until his death.
Yes i know he was no saint.
I never said he was, and im glad he never tried to hide that because it would be a hard things for fans to swallow if they found out otherwise later, as often happens.
There was just something about how it was done and how they focused on the fact that he was promiscuious etc that makes me upset, as if thats all he was known for. Yes, that was apart of his life, but in certain things like that if its on entertainment, they should focus on the more ENTERTAINMENT part of it, i mean a brief mention to explain how he maybe contracted aids or personal life, but that was the whole thing and the first mention was "FLAMBOYANT FRONTMAN OF THE ROCK BAND QUEEN" and that was all that was said about him as a musician.
Now if it were on the life of Freddie Mercury, then by all means cover that aspect of his life, but as well as others. Does that make a bit more sense, thats what i really mean worded much better now i hope.
And he was a big coke user, not into any other drugs, he didnt like them. Very strange i know and no it doesnt make it better. And im not condoning it either, but its the way that everything was placed.
and MERCURY AND ME i found on AMAZON.COM
You have to look in the Used books section, because its out of print. Thats where i got mine, and the service was great i got it in like less than a week that i ordered it. And its in decent condition for being used. Just read the descriptions carefully.
I never said he was, and im glad he never tried to hide that because it would be a hard things for fans to swallow if they found out otherwise later, as often happens.
There was just something about how it was done and how they focused on the fact that he was promiscuious etc that makes me upset, as if thats all he was known for. Yes, that was apart of his life, but in certain things like that if its on entertainment, they should focus on the more ENTERTAINMENT part of it, i mean a brief mention to explain how he maybe contracted aids or personal life, but that was the whole thing and the first mention was "FLAMBOYANT FRONTMAN OF THE ROCK BAND QUEEN" and that was all that was said about him as a musician.
Now if it were on the life of Freddie Mercury, then by all means cover that aspect of his life, but as well as others. Does that make a bit more sense, thats what i really mean worded much better now i hope.
And he was a big coke user, not into any other drugs, he didnt like them. Very strange i know and no it doesnt make it better. And im not condoning it either, but its the way that everything was placed.
and MERCURY AND ME i found on AMAZON.COM
You have to look in the Used books section, because its out of print. Thats where i got mine, and the service was great i got it in like less than a week that i ordered it. And its in decent condition for being used. Just read the descriptions carefully.
Well said, DrCari. Well said indeed. <applause>
Freddie may have not been a saint...but his voice was from heaven!!
CAN I GET AN AMEN???!!!
AMEEEEEEENNN!
AMEEEEEEENNN!