[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]zuzumu wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sithmarauder wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Well recording concerts is illegal. [/QUOTE]
Of course, but tell that to the security people checking your bags before the venue ;-).
As I can tell from the Queen concerts I have visited e.g. last year nobody was really "checked" for the camera, digicam or whatever. No security asked what the cam can do or took it away.
You saw huge informations in front of the entrances saying:
no cameras allowed
no video recording allowed
no audio recording allowed
...but no-one really cared.
And on the other hand people shall send in e.g. pics to QP, Q+PR, PR to be published on their websites to remember a great show.
I just think the whole problem starts right there.
On one hand you should take pics and send them in and actually it is forbidden and it is no difference with the audio/video recordings.
Due to different laws from country to country, I don`t think that any fan knows what`s definitely right or wrong.[/QUOTE]
I'm not taking sides here, I'm just pointing out what we have against us that's all. I'm as unhappy about the official bootleg releases as anyone else here. Unfortunately, this is what we have going against us. Frankly speaking, us Queen fans are the backbone of what keeps Queen alive and I think we deserve better than a kick in the ass by Queen production. That is my opinion on this whole issue.
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I really don`t think we should talk about this, unless the moderators of this site think otherwise.
It`s ridiculous now to think that the bootlegs are now "officials" just because they were put online by Queenonline. If they`re gonna release 100 bootlegs, then a year from now there`s nothing we can share.
They want to stop bootlegers of making money with those recordings?- Thats exactly what we are doing here. Sharing for free.
If they want to release something official, then go to the mastertapes and do it. I would be glad to buy that. But i don`t buy meaningless recordings just because of their greed! I rather guive my money to bootlegers than to Queenproductions.
It´s one hell of a deal. Imagine the profits they`re making with bootlegs?!
In a year or two they release online the mastertapes and it`s more money again for the same thing. They should be ashamed in the first place for this idea (especialy Brian who was happy about it).
And they should be ashamed about using the name of the Mercury Phoenix trust to promote this garbage. What are they thinking- I`m i going to feel guilty for not downloading from them, so the money could go the the foundation?- Hell, no!!
If they want to use the foundation name to sell a product then they should think better about the quallity of it!
We can reverse things by saying that if they want to make real charity, then they should release the concerts from the soundboard, and they woul certainly be receiving about 20 times more for their Foundation to prevent AIDS.
I´m really bad about it, and i can`t stand bad marketing!!
In my opinion, unless otherwise stated these bootlegs can be shared here!
Take care
It`s ridiculous now to think that the bootlegs are now "officials" just because they were put online by Queenonline. If they`re gonna release 100 bootlegs, then a year from now there`s nothing we can share.
They want to stop bootlegers of making money with those recordings?- Thats exactly what we are doing here. Sharing for free.
If they want to release something official, then go to the mastertapes and do it. I would be glad to buy that. But i don`t buy meaningless recordings just because of their greed! I rather guive my money to bootlegers than to Queenproductions.
It´s one hell of a deal. Imagine the profits they`re making with bootlegs?!
In a year or two they release online the mastertapes and it`s more money again for the same thing. They should be ashamed in the first place for this idea (especialy Brian who was happy about it).
And they should be ashamed about using the name of the Mercury Phoenix trust to promote this garbage. What are they thinking- I`m i going to feel guilty for not downloading from them, so the money could go the the foundation?- Hell, no!!
If they want to use the foundation name to sell a product then they should think better about the quallity of it!
We can reverse things by saying that if they want to make real charity, then they should release the concerts from the soundboard, and they woul certainly be receiving about 20 times more for their Foundation to prevent AIDS.
I´m really bad about it, and i can`t stand bad marketing!!
In my opinion, unless otherwise stated these bootlegs can be shared here!
Take care
as i always say about QOL
WHO GIVES A FUCK!
its not been announced on here by a moderator or admin that we cant share it cos its "official"
official my arse!
in my opinion its illegal selling of bootlegs, which the cash goes into there back pocket, as far as we should be concerned we aint seen the downloads on QOL and should do the right thing and SHARE FREELY!
if they wanted to stop bootlegging, INCREASE THE SEARCHES EBFORE A GIG! RELEASE MORE MASTER TAPES!
its not difficult jesus, just get on with sharing as normal fuck QOL!
thats what freddie would sya "fuck em"
WHO GIVES A FUCK!
its not been announced on here by a moderator or admin that we cant share it cos its "official"
official my arse!
in my opinion its illegal selling of bootlegs, which the cash goes into there back pocket, as far as we should be concerned we aint seen the downloads on QOL and should do the right thing and SHARE FREELY!
if they wanted to stop bootlegging, INCREASE THE SEARCHES EBFORE A GIG! RELEASE MORE MASTER TAPES!
its not difficult jesus, just get on with sharing as normal fuck QOL!
thats what freddie would sya "fuck em"
I suggest that you people go into the site, enter the help menu a read about License Acquisition and DRM.
well its up to you but im sticking with what i said.
I respect that you are sticking to what you beleive in and I agree with you about FREE sharing.
But if QOL went out of their way to issue licences that allow PC limits to 3 and burn to CD,
I'd have to believe we cannot share these show freely.
But if QOL went out of their way to issue licences that allow PC limits to 3 and burn to CD,
I'd have to believe we cannot share these show freely.
Illegal or not, QP are currently making money off recordings they didn't produce themselves. Secondly, they are not beating the bootleggers by selling a recording of equal, or even LESS (since it's compressed) quality. They should offer recordings that bootleggers cannot offer.
But why are they trying to "beat the bootleggers", anyway? There are very few factory-pressed Queen bootlegs being sold these days. The bands in highest demand usually are the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, and the Grateful Dead. Even so, bootlegs these days are usually limited to a few hundred copies, so these companies aren't making that much money, anyway. QP doesn't need the money, so I can't see what's holding them back from releasing uncut soundboard recordings instead of bootlegs.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sithmarauder wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I respect that you are sticking to what you beleive in and I agree with you about FREE sharing.
But if QOL went out of their way to issue licences that allow PC limits to 3 and burn to CD,
I'd have to believe we cannot share these show freely.[/QUOTE]
Then people who have this belief can find another way to get the shows. There is always a way!
But why are they trying to "beat the bootleggers", anyway? There are very few factory-pressed Queen bootlegs being sold these days. The bands in highest demand usually are the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, and the Grateful Dead. Even so, bootlegs these days are usually limited to a few hundred copies, so these companies aren't making that much money, anyway. QP doesn't need the money, so I can't see what's holding them back from releasing uncut soundboard recordings instead of bootlegs.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sithmarauder wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I respect that you are sticking to what you beleive in and I agree with you about FREE sharing.
But if QOL went out of their way to issue licences that allow PC limits to 3 and burn to CD,
I'd have to believe we cannot share these show freely.[/QUOTE]
Then people who have this belief can find another way to get the shows. There is always a way!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Illegal or not, QP are currently making money off recordings they didn't produce themselves. Secondly, they are not beating the bootleggers by selling a recording of equal, or even LESS (since it's compressed) quality. They should offer recordings that bootleggers cannot offer.
But why are they trying to "beat the bootleggers", anyway? There are very few factory-pressed Queen bootlegs being sold these days. The bands in highest demand usually are the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, and the Grateful Dead. Even so, bootlegs these days are usually limited to a few hundred copies, so these companies aren't making that much money, anyway. QP doesn't need the money, so I can't see what's holding them back from releasing uncut soundboard recordings instead of bootlegs.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sithmarauder wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I respect that you are sticking to what you beleive in and I agree with you about FREE sharing.
But if QOL went out of their way to issue licences that allow PC limits to 3 and burn to CD,
I'd have to believe we cannot share these show freely.[/QUOTE]
Then people who have this belief can find another way to get the shows. There is always a way!
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You're a smart man SirGH ;)
But why are they trying to "beat the bootleggers", anyway? There are very few factory-pressed Queen bootlegs being sold these days. The bands in highest demand usually are the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, and the Grateful Dead. Even so, bootlegs these days are usually limited to a few hundred copies, so these companies aren't making that much money, anyway. QP doesn't need the money, so I can't see what's holding them back from releasing uncut soundboard recordings instead of bootlegs.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sithmarauder wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I respect that you are sticking to what you beleive in and I agree with you about FREE sharing.
But if QOL went out of their way to issue licences that allow PC limits to 3 and burn to CD,
I'd have to believe we cannot share these show freely.[/QUOTE]
Then people who have this belief can find another way to get the shows. There is always a way!
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You're a smart man SirGH ;)
If they want to stop bootleggers they should do what Metallica did on their last tour.
Check this out... http://www.livemetallica.com/
Who will bother to record concert and get more or less shitty recording when he/she knew that it will be awailable for download as a soundboard recording for a few bucks.
Check this out... http://www.livemetallica.com/
Who will bother to record concert and get more or less shitty recording when he/she knew that it will be awailable for download as a soundboard recording for a few bucks.
Yep I bought 3 of the metallica shows myself. quality wasn't the greatest it I'd rather pay them than someone with a tape recorder in the audience.
For me I really don't care too much for queen live bootlegs they don't thrill me. Truly I only listened to Live Killers or Wembley about a handful times each and just not to impressed to have alot of queen live. They are much better in the studio.
It pretty bad Queen would sell bootleggers crap when they could just sell their own recordings of these concerts. I trully would never pay for a bad recording of any concert.
For me I really don't care too much for queen live bootlegs they don't thrill me. Truly I only listened to Live Killers or Wembley about a handful times each and just not to impressed to have alot of queen live. They are much better in the studio.
It pretty bad Queen would sell bootleggers crap when they could just sell their own recordings of these concerts. I trully would never pay for a bad recording of any concert.
I don't know if any of you remember but a few years ago some small company or other started putting out 'unofficial' live concerts on cd - recorder by audience & then released. The Big companies/artists took them to court and LOST. The official ruling on any bootleg seems to be that copyright of the concert remains with the recorder, not the artist/company. The theory was that since the concert was a broadcast not a specific studio recording it was basically fine to record and sell as long as the words 'unofficial' appeared on the cover. As such, QOL should be paying royalties to the recorders of the show and they cannot count as official releases.
If there were no bootlegers they wouldn`t know half of their history!
How ridiculous is the fact of them using private footage of Queen reharsing for the 86 tour on "Live at Wembley" DVD?
And the concerts that weren`t officialy recorded, how could Greg compiled his book without the bootlegs recordings?
And they want to fight back Bootlegers?- Of course!- Now that they know everything, have every rare live concert, now they can shut down bootlegers!
Take care
How ridiculous is the fact of them using private footage of Queen reharsing for the 86 tour on "Live at Wembley" DVD?
And the concerts that weren`t officialy recorded, how could Greg compiled his book without the bootlegs recordings?
And they want to fight back Bootlegers?- Of course!- Now that they know everything, have every rare live concert, now they can shut down bootlegers!
Take care
The sad thing about this whole thing is that if there weren't any bootleggers, Queen Production wouldn't even consider releasing these concerts.
They're only doing this because they realize what they are losing out on. They should have just put a red flag on certain concerts that they plan to release in the future and leave the rest for the bootleggers.
They're only doing this because they realize what they are losing out on. They should have just put a red flag on certain concerts that they plan to release in the future and leave the rest for the bootleggers.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sithmarauder wrote: [/QUOTENAME]They're only doing this because they realize what they are losing out on. They should have just put a red flag on certain concerts that they plan to release in the future and leave the rest for the bootleggers.[/QUOTE]
But that would require brains, and effort...
*waves to Manny*
But that would require brains, and effort...
*waves to Manny*
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Kaybowser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]For me I really don't care too much for queen live bootlegs they don't thrill me. Truly I only listened to Live Killers or Wembley about a handful times each and just not to impressed to have alot of queen live. They are much better in the studio.
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Are you aware about what you wrote?
Queen were much better live than in the studio.
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Are you aware about what you wrote?
Queen were much better live than in the studio.