[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Don't know if this has been addressed, but can you put stuff up that was released but is no longer being produced, like the Starfleet album? If so that would be awesome I lost mine. If not that's cool, just wondering.[/QUOTE]
As far as this site is concerned - NO official downloads. Period.[/QUOTE]
Relax dude, I only asked a question you don't have to look to fight I'm not asking anyone to put anything up that they shouldn't nor am I putting anything up.[/QUOTE]
Actually that WAS a polite answer!
Why is it that direct and to the point is considered rude?
If I said 'f*ck off sh*t face' I would understand, but being economical with words is not always curt, or looking for a fight.
Stick around a bit, and you will see that I am often very direct, but that does not mean that I am angry because I do so.
john bodega · Member since
Maybe it was the capitals.
John S Stuart · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Maybe it was the capitals.[/QUOTE]
So how else do you suggest emphisis? It happens on every other internet noticeboard - even over on Queenonline. So I am pulling on an established code of conduct here, not some personal made-up guidelines.
I agree that complete mails - or sentences of capital letters can be 'read' as 'shouting' - but individual words - are fine, as it let's the reader know the main point of the mail.
I just think that in this Politcally Correct world people can not be direct anymore - as everything has to be sugar-coated first. But the point is 'No' means 'No' however long-winded you make the answer - and a more direct 'NO' is the most focused answer of all.
No rudeness, no anger, no bursting a gut.
And if that 'offends' - then it it is the reciever's problem - and NOT the writers.
Serry... · Member since
Don't worry, John, it's just a human's nature. I am, probably, most hated person on Russian Queen forums, because someone says that Back Chat was written by Freddie about newspapers, I make remark that maybe it was about newspapers, but it wasn't written by Freddie or for instance I write that David Richards made a big input in "Track 13" (I even post the quote from Dave's interview) and here we are "Serry, you're a rude motherf*cker, d*ckhead, moron" etc.
Thanks · Member since
Fucking hell, we answer nicely all five times he keeps going "yes, but...." and we're the people being harsh???
Suit yourself, dicksplash. May your diseases all be curable....
Jjeroen · Member since
It's prohibited to post ANY product in here that was EVER officially released.
That's not OUR will - it's QueenProductions' will.
We just want to save this website from being shut down by QueenProductions.
So if you don't understand or disagree; argue with THEM.
Cheers!
John S Stuart · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jeroen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's prohibited to post ANY product in here that was EVER officially released.
That's not OUR will - it's QueenProductions' will.
We just want to save this website from being shut down by QueenProductions.
So if you don't understand or disagree; argue with THEM.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Hey Mr J, That is an excellent mail!
Bobby_brown · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Thanks wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's not a question of whether they're still making money from it.
It's a question of owning the rights to it, which they still do, and theefore the answer is "no"[/QUOTE]
That's a reasonable answer, but then how come if it hasn't been officially released, say like a Miracle demo, so noone "officially" owns the rights then? That can't be cause then wouldn't someone here just take it and sell it, who could stop them then? So why wouldn't they care if you throw up a whole possible future box set, but go nuts if you put up something from A Night at the Opera? I'm not looking to be annoying, just starting a conversation.[/QUOTE]
I share your point of view! I mean, this site has rules and have to live by them, but Queenproductions are dumb!!!
Really, i don`t say we shared the official albums, but some B-sides wouldn`t hurt as much as Demo tapes, but for them it`s the complete oposite.
Singles were released just for that period, they don`t get re-releases (until now), and the band isn`t making money with them anymore. So, it wouldn´t cause them anny trouble if some B-sides were shared. But, demo tapes that can guive them lots of money in the future, they don`t mind (it´s not official). DUMB PEOPLE. They don`t think about it, they just go with the flow and do it as it was before. It´s one of those rules...
Take care
QueenFan1982 · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bobby_brown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Thanks wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's not a question of whether they're still making money from it.
It's a question of owning the rights to it, which they still do, and theefore the answer is "no"[/QUOTE]
That's a reasonable answer, but then how come if it hasn't been officially released, say like a Miracle demo, so noone "officially" owns the rights then? That can't be cause then wouldn't someone here just take it and sell it, who could stop them then? So why wouldn't they care if you throw up a whole possible future box set, but go nuts if you put up something from A Night at the Opera? I'm not looking to be annoying, just starting a conversation.[/QUOTE]
I share your point of view! I mean, this site has rules and have to live by them, but Queenproductions are dumb!!!
Really, i don`t say we shared the official albums, but some B-sides wouldn`t hurt as much as Demo tapes, but for them it`s the complete oposite.
Singles were released just for that period, they don`t get re-releases (until now), and the band isn`t making money with them anymore. So, it wouldn´t cause them anny trouble if some B-sides were shared. But, demo tapes that can guive them lots of money in the future, they don`t mind (it´s not official). DUMB PEOPLE. They don`t think about it, they just go with the flow and do it as it was before. It´s one of those rules...
Take care[/QUOTE]
I completely feel the same. If someone puts say "Stealin'" up here, which was officially released as a b-side I guess like 15 years ago or so, it's considered wrong cause it was official. But chances are, they are never going to release that again, except on a box set that people would be buying really for the demos, because let's face it, everyone on here has Stealin' from either downloading it or buying it. The money to be made at this point is from unreleased songs or demos, that they don't seem to care are being downloaded right now, to the point where if those get released people might not buy them now. Q Prod. should really look at this and basically let us put up things that aren't presently available for sale, which I can understand why they'd be pissed then. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be yelled at for having an opinion but people that have opinions often do get yelled at.
Thanks · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
If someone puts say "Stealin'" up here, it's considered wrong cause it was official. But chances are, they are never going to release that again, except on a box set that people would be buying really for the demos, because let's face it, everyone on here has Stealin' from either downloading it or buying it. [/QUOTE]
If everyone has it, why does it need to be uploaded?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
The money to be made at this point is from unreleased songs or demos,
[/QUOTE]
Then why would they include Stealin on a box set?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
... they don't seem to care are being downloaded right now,
[/QUOTE]
No? Make a web site, try it, see how quick EMI have you prosecuted.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
Oh well, I'm sure I'll be yelled at for having an opinion but people that have opinions often do get yelled at.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone that has an opinion gets yelled at. But if your logic is as weak as this, your arguments will get taken apart every time, you'll get defensive, mis-construe it as personal criticism, be rude back and then discover that others are better at THAT than you as well....
QueenFan1982 · Member since
Thanks you're such a loser. Stop acting like a lawyer, cause I know you probably work at Wal-Mart. I'm simply asking questions, not trying to start a war, but I know you love to fight. I never said I wanted to upload Stealin', it's called an EXAMPLE (I know you love the caps). I never said I wanted to start a site, I just said "Why can't we?" Maybe next time before you speak, read my post. Just a suggestion. Ok, now your turn smart ass.
Saint Jiub · Member since
Newsflash: QP will be releasing a CD single this x-mas, and have narrowed it down to 2 choices (never before released on CD):
CD Single #1: A Human Body, A Dozen Red Roses for My Darling & Blurred Vision
OR
CD Single #2: Face It Alone, Africa by Night & Sandbox
Obviously, CD Single #1 will be preferred by Queen fans because, QP enforces copyrights more stringently for the songs from CD Single #1???
I realize that Richard can apply whatever rules he deems appropriate to protect himself, and I abide by those rules. However, stating that the "no official out of print material" rule is official QP policy is ludicrous. Heck QP even pirated the Montreal 81 concert which is still on the market. QP may not even have an official policy for out of print material. In any case, QP is apparently winging it, and as usual does not have a clue.
By all means declare the "no official material" rule as a precautionary, but MANDATORY QZ policy, but please do not declare it as official QP policy.
Bobby_brown · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rip Van Winkle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Newsflash: QP will be releasing a CD single this x-mas, and have narrowed it down to 2 choices (never before released on CD):
CD Single #1: A Human Body, A Dozen Red Roses for My Darling & Blurred Vision
OR
CD Single #2: Face It Alone, Africa by Night & Sandbox
Obviously, CD Single #1 will be preferred by Queen fans because, QP enforces copyrights more stringently for the songs from CD Single #1???
[/QUOTE]
Great example!!
That`s why i said that QP are DUMB!!
But i agree that we have to follow the rules, and i`m not complaining because that`s a good policy for fans, if you know what i mean (B-sides we can buy the bootlegs. Rare MP3 we can download on the internet).
I`m just questioning the ideas behind those rules, and it doesn`t make any sense. But hey, their rules, so...
Take care
Thanks · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks you're such a loser. Stop acting like a lawyer, cause I know you probably work at Wal-Mart. I'm simply asking questions, not trying to start a war, but I know you love to fight. I never said I wanted to upload Stealin', it's called an EXAMPLE (I know you love the caps). I never said I wanted to start a site, I just said "Why can't we?" Maybe next time before you speak, read my post. Just a suggestion. Ok, now your turn smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Still waiting for you to actually respond to my logical post with one of your own.
Saint Jiub · Member since
I have taken the liberty to respond (in CAPS) to Thanks' questions to QueenFan1982.
If someone puts say "Stealin'" up here, it's considered wrong cause it was official. But chances are, they are never going to release that again, except on a box set that people would be buying really for the demos, because let's face it, everyone on here has Stealin' from either downloading it or buying it. [/QUOTE]
If everyone has it, why does it need to be uploaded?
BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO THE QUEEN HUB.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
The money to be made at this point is from unreleased songs or demos,
[/QUOTE]
Then why would they include Stealin on a box set?
TO MAKE THE BOX SET AS COMPLETE AS POSSIBLE, AND PUT ALL NON-ALBUM SONGS IN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
... they don't seem to care are being downloaded right now,
[/QUOTE]
No? Make a web site, try it, see how quick EMI have you prosecuted.
THE QUEEN HUB HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS WITHOUT ISSUES, AND IT ALLOWS SHARING OF OUT OF PRINT MATERIAL. EVEN BRIANMAY.COM USED TO HAVE LINKS (TIMELILY) FOR DOWNLOADING OUT OF PRINT MATERIAL.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenFan1982 wrote:
Oh well, I'm sure I'll be yelled at for having an opinion but people that have opinions often do get yelled at.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone that has an opinion gets yelled at. But if your logic is as weak as this, your arguments will get taken apart every time, you'll get defensive, mis-construe it as personal criticism, be rude back and then discover that others are better at THAT than you as well....
