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Who the hell is he?
I'm just getting used to my new exposure Come into my enclosure And meet my melancholy blues
Apparently, anyone asking this "who is Paul Weller?" question doesn't like to read what Serry posts. Check the first fucking page, third or fourth reply.
Paul Weller is a dork. The Jam sucked anyhow. Thank Christ they didn't break the US.
"Spread your wings and fly away, fly away, far away!", "No one makes me sing lullabies and no one makes me close my eyes"
Two comments, either the reporter decided to write whatever he felt like to make up a story, (English press are scum)

Second Mr Weller is either trying to get noticed by being controvershal or just plain ignorant, the comments if true and meant as they read display a rather shallow individual that hasn't moved on since the playground.
"It is better to sit in silence and have people think you're a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
"But to those who say "who's Paul Weller?" or "Paul Weller is shite"

Yeah that's me.

"I would suggest that you should really go back to The Jam and have a listen."

Interesting, once I heard his music I remembered who he was, I'm just shithouse with names (the other day I told someon Buddy *Ebsen* used to drum for Jimi Hendrix. The drummer was of course, Buddy Miles).

I've always disliked this music anyway. It's rubbish.

"But this won't really do you much good. You'd really have to have been around in that period to know the effect and influence that Weller's work had."

Yah but I didn't have to be around when they painted the Cistine Chapel to appreciate that. If it sucks in one decade, it'll suck in the next one. He's just a very ordinary musician.

"Anybody in the UK who has a copy of yesterday's (feb 4) Guardian should read the piece about Weller. He was the Modfather. He was the new Pete Townshend and then some. He was of his time, and really took the working class hero in rock forward to new levels of appreciation."

He was boring.

"People burnt their entire record collections the day that Weller split The Jam."

There's something in that for all of us to consider...

"That's just my tuppence worth. All i would say is that he has his place in the Rock Pantheon."

In the attic with Oasis.

"I think he's pretty much entitled to say whatever he wants."

We *all* are, and we're also entitled to rip the shit out of it! :D
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ok.computer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've come to this very late.



Anybody in the UK who has a copy of yesterday's (feb 4) Guardian should read the piece about Weller. He was the Modfather. Paul[/QUOTE]

Well it would be The Guardian wouldn't it- shrine to all left wing loonies.
hj
He was asked his opinion on these acts & he gave them. To suggest Paul Weller is uknown is beyond hilarious. Didn't break the US? Oh dear, what a failure. The US is the centre of the Universe, I forgot.
i thought paul weller was the actor who played robocop, holy metal, oh well i learnt something new
purples a fruit
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir Archie Leach wrote: [/QUOTENAME]His problem is he's trying to appear all cutting edge and trendy. Unfortunately he's part of the musical 'establishment' that he despises so much. [/QUOTE]
Ay- there's some good point to it!
Personally I never liked him. Not my cup of tea, I'd say. So I could slag him off. And I guess I'd be entitled to. Same way he could slag off FM. Big deal. What we gonna do? Crucify Paul Weller? Give me a break...
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=696327 Wanna trade? Here's my list...
ive always quite liked paul weller.
#he is of course entitled not to like freddie mercury, but to call him a c**t for something he never actually said is poor form from the man. either get your facts traight before slagging him, or as a mighty sage once said 'say fuck all is best'
we've no ancestral halls, no haughty portraits on our walls, no family monuments at all, unless it's my cousin sheila's stupendous clevage.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dimcyril wrote: [/QUOTENAME]ive always quite liked paul weller.
#he is of course entitled not to like freddie mercury, but to call him a c**t for something he never actually said is poor form from the man. either get your facts traight before slagging him, or as a mighty sage once said 'say fuck all is best' [/QUOTE]

That's exactly what I stated earlier. I don't care whether he likes Freddie Mercury or not, but to call him a c**t is way over the top. What's wrong with "He's not my cup of tea?" or something of those lines?
-Perry
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]NOTWMEDDLE wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Paul Weller is a dork. The Jam sucked anyhow. Thank Christ they didn't break the US.[/QUOTE]


You are, of course, entitled to your opinion - this is the beauty of the internet.

On what basis do you assert that Paul Weller is a dork?

How did The Jam "suck" musically?

How do you figure that today's bands could exist without The Jam? Those who quote Weller and The Jam as influences include Zutons, Kaiser Chiefs, Oasis, Damon Albarn, Killers, Strokes, White Stripes - the list goes on.

Perhaps you are stuck in a kind of glam rock timewarp of the Seventies? I dunno...

Perhaps you don't feel that the above bands count for very much? I dunno.

But I would like to hear your opinion justifying your comments.

I don't doubt that The Jam couldn't break Amerika. They were working class boys from London, singing and writing about the downturn of the times as Thatcherism (that's a British Prime Minister, by the way) kicked in, and socialist values, the foundations of which were grown on Union principles were removed.

Look at these lyrics from That's Entertainment. These pretty much sum up what it was like to live on a sink-estate anywhere in the UK in 1980.

A police car and a screaming siren -
A pneumatic drill and ripped up concrete -
A baby wailing and stray dog howling -
The screech of brakes and lamp light blinking -
That's Entertainment.
A smash of glass and a rumble of boots -
An electric train and a ripped up 'phone booth -
Paint splattered walls and the cry of a tomcat -
Lights going out and a kick in the balls -
That's Entertainment.


And again, from Going Underground. Actually some of these should ring true with the Amerikan way of life....


You choose your leaders and place your trust
As their lies wash you down and their promises rust
You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns
And the public wants what the public gets
But I don't get what this society wants
I'm going underground, (going underground)
Well the brass bands play and feet start to pound
Going underground, (going underground)

And again, a picture of youthful ennui and a hatred of the original neo-con, the Conservative Government of the 1980's in Britain....these from the lyrics of Art School....

Young words are mumbled, they don't always last
It's up to us to be sure they understand
Who makes the rules that make people select
Who is to judge that your ways are correct
The media as watchdog is absolute shit
The TV telling you what to think
Anything that you wanna do, anyplace that you wanna go
Don't need permission for everything that you want
Any taste that you feel is right


Now far be it from me to disagree with anybody. And I make no comment on the erstwhile career of Paul Weller, Style Council, solo or otherwise.

But I'd really like to hear from a political perspective and your insight into the times - which you were around for, albeit on the other side of the Atlantic - just why The Jam sucked..?

Perhaps you'd prefer to give a socio-political perspective on NWA?

Paul
"Just tryin' to have a little fun, folks..."
I have to disagree Mr Computer- I hate self serving looney socialists like Weller and Chris Martin etc- people like him think their politicians and they're not-they are just badly informed pop stars. His songs were not accurate perceptions of Britain; just a hardcore of people. He wasn't at all original at all- he jumped on the Mrs Thatcher banwagon- it doesn't make him clever- far from it.

Queen's strength was the fact that they were apolitcal- let no one on this site forget that!
hj
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Asterik wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I have to disagree Mr Computer- I hate self serving looney socialists like Weller and Chris Martin etc- people like him think their politicians and they're not-they are just badly informed pop stars. His songs were not accurate perceptions of Britain; just a hardcore of people. He wasn't at all original at all- he jumped on the Mrs Thatcher banwagon- it doesn't make him clever- far from it.

Queen's strength was the fact that they were apolitcal- let no one on this site forget that![/QUOTE]

Your opinion is noted. However, I'd **still** like to hear NOTWMEDDLE's opinion on the matter. By the way, I doubt if either of the above feel themselves to politicians. Neither have stood for office.

Perhaps they feel more like social commentators with their songs.

Naturally, this would place "Is This The World We Created?" on the same platform, would it not? Words like "apolitical" are like phrases such as "absolute truth".

Again, just my opinion.
"Just tryin' to have a little fun, folks..."
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ok.computer wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Asterik wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I

Naturally, this would place "Is This The World We Created?" on the same platform, would it not? Words like "apolitical" are like phrases such as "absolute truth".

Again, just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

There is some truth in that my friend.
hj