[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]JamieSureWould<br><font size=1>QOQOW wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Osama has a bunch of followers who pretty much simply all must die and dont say ur dads been bealing with this shit all his life, as if mine hasnt and hasnt lectured me up the ass about whats going on. im quiet aware. once again uve done nothing thomas, thank you :D[/QUOTE]
Don't confuse the hunt on Osama with the war in Iraq. The war in Iraq was waged for all the wrong reasons. There were no terrorist training camps in Iraq. Iraq had no WMD and was not a threat to the US. None of the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks came from Iraq. If anything Saddam kept radical Islam under control in his country.
The Bush administration started the war in Iraq to get a stronger grip on Middle East oil and to keep the war industry happy.
Now Iraq has collapsed into chaos. It has become a great country to recruit and train terrorists. It's a great excuse for terrorists to ignite the flame of radical Islam a bit higher.
Read Noam Chomsky's speech. It really is enlightening. Of course, you perceive the US as "good" and the "terrorists" as evil, because you are born there and all you have heard in your life is pro-US propaganda. But just imagine you grew up on a desolated island and you only just came into contact with the civilized world today: who would you perceive as "evil" then? Try to see things from different perspectives. It really can open your eyes.
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Brian is not a liberal at all. That just shows how narrow minded people are. Put a label on him and patronise his point of view. I totally disagree with your one sided and ill informed statement. But then - in "Cuba" you surely have not many opportunities to hear various opinions.
edit: this is for coops, not zaiga who posted in the mean time:)
edit: this is for coops, not zaiga who posted in the mean time:)
I always admired Brian and after reading his opinions in his soapbox i admire him more because i understood that he isn't just hte best guitarist in the world but he is also very open minded.The war in Iraq was a huge mistake although mr Bush achieved what he wanted:Making money for oil and weapons companys(afterall these companys pay the money for his election campaigns)and finding an enemy so that the americans will focus on the iraqis or terrorists and not in other issues like economy,pollution etc.The arabs don't hate the Western people they just have a different colture abd we just seem not to understand it and do whatever we can to make them angry(publish offending comics,fight against them,abuse them).The terror attacks are organised by some very religious almost blind people and they are the only ones who think they are right.There are people like them in the usa or uk too, who think that muslims are evil and we should kill them.So don't judge all the muslims by them.The opinions of that little girl just made me understand why bush has been elected again,which was unbelievable for me.And yes you should try to read some nice political books.If i have spell errors it's just because english it's not my native languge(i'm greek)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]zaiga wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Now Iraq has collapsed into chaos. It has become a great country to recruit and train terrorists. It's a great excuse for terrorists to ignite the flame of radical Islam a bit higher.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly...
My thoughts exactly...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]JamieSureWould<br><font size=1>QOQOW wrote: [/QUOTENAME]please excuse any spelling errors- but im not reading it over...sorry :S[/QUOTE]
Honestly, if you really took the time to spell properly, use correct grammar, and proof-read what you write, then you would be taken much more seriously here.
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im sorry you guys will have to understand that i dont care enough to reread it most of the time. some of the time i will but otherwise fuck it its QZ its not THAT important to me after a 6 and half hour day of school.
and usually when im on a rant about something ill look it over a few times but otherwise im just saying f it, theyll understand me
Honestly, if you really took the time to spell properly, use correct grammar, and proof-read what you write, then you would be taken much more seriously here.
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im sorry you guys will have to understand that i dont care enough to reread it most of the time. some of the time i will but otherwise fuck it its QZ its not THAT important to me after a 6 and half hour day of school.
and usually when im on a rant about something ill look it over a few times but otherwise im just saying f it, theyll understand me
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Brian has strong opinions and I do not agree all the time. Sometimes he has - in my opinion - strange topics like the orbs, for example. But one thing is sure:
Brian May is a person who is interested. He is not one of these newly rich rock and pop stars who do nothing but drugs. Brian is someone who wants to make a difference and he sure does make a difference. He is helpful and compassionate, he donates his time and his effort for worthy causes. He has multiple interests and he is intelligent and well educated. So what if he is moody sometimes and what if he has strong opinions about issues that do not matter to other people?
It makes me angry that a girl who is too lazy to spell her own language correctly and who brags on this board that she thinks reading is a waste of time thinks she knows anything about this world better than a man who has achieved as much as Brian May. Maybe it's time her dad lectures her "up the ass" to have some respect for the opinions of other people.[/QUOTE]
i dont think u understand that i have HUGE amounts of respect for Brian, but i was just seeing if anyone could kind of ease me pain with the politics stuff he has been writing lately. and the first person who answered here did, and its great you all love to criticize me because i am 15 i am still learning and QZ helps me learn so im sorry if my grammer isnt perfect or anything (on the internet) but i really just dont care. i come to QZ to learn more about my favorite band
Brian May is a person who is interested. He is not one of these newly rich rock and pop stars who do nothing but drugs. Brian is someone who wants to make a difference and he sure does make a difference. He is helpful and compassionate, he donates his time and his effort for worthy causes. He has multiple interests and he is intelligent and well educated. So what if he is moody sometimes and what if he has strong opinions about issues that do not matter to other people?
It makes me angry that a girl who is too lazy to spell her own language correctly and who brags on this board that she thinks reading is a waste of time thinks she knows anything about this world better than a man who has achieved as much as Brian May. Maybe it's time her dad lectures her "up the ass" to have some respect for the opinions of other people.[/QUOTE]
i dont think u understand that i have HUGE amounts of respect for Brian, but i was just seeing if anyone could kind of ease me pain with the politics stuff he has been writing lately. and the first person who answered here did, and its great you all love to criticize me because i am 15 i am still learning and QZ helps me learn so im sorry if my grammer isnt perfect or anything (on the internet) but i really just dont care. i come to QZ to learn more about my favorite band
personally, im done with this topic since my thoughts were answered. I do appreciate all of your input but i have a feeling this topic is really going where i didnt want it to go. So thank you all, and ill see you around :)
Hey Valentine, if you don't think Brian is a Liberal then you have no clue what one is. I don't live in Cuba and I do read other peoples opinion. That's how I got to read Brians. And yours. Hello.
Lastly my statement is not ill-informed. I got the info straight from Brians website.
Lastly my statement is not ill-informed. I got the info straight from Brians website.
The problem is that Jen (or anyone else) doesn't question Brian's opinions or his motives for publishing this shit.
She's sitting there as his webmaster just blindly saying "Yes, Brian - you're the best and my hero". As soon as any negative feedback comes into their mailbox, it's quickly being deleted. I've challenged Brian by e-mail a number of times through different e-mail addresses of mine (all with serious nd valid arguements against whatever it might have been that he was saying) with absolutely no response.
Sadly, if Brian isn't exposed to criticism of his views, he has nothing to sit there and think about and then possibly form a different opinion over. He's inherently wrong regarding the motivations behind the war on terror and WHY our leaders had to show that they would not sit still. Also, this smoking thing - does he not realise that by having a total ban (regardless of the health reasons), it's taking away people's right to be able to choose if they want to allow people to smoke in their public places? It's against human rights to have a blanket decision made against a minority.
Still, if Brian doesn't see these opinions from people that respect his art, then how can he know whether he is being fair in his opinion?
She's sitting there as his webmaster just blindly saying "Yes, Brian - you're the best and my hero". As soon as any negative feedback comes into their mailbox, it's quickly being deleted. I've challenged Brian by e-mail a number of times through different e-mail addresses of mine (all with serious nd valid arguements against whatever it might have been that he was saying) with absolutely no response.
Sadly, if Brian isn't exposed to criticism of his views, he has nothing to sit there and think about and then possibly form a different opinion over. He's inherently wrong regarding the motivations behind the war on terror and WHY our leaders had to show that they would not sit still. Also, this smoking thing - does he not realise that by having a total ban (regardless of the health reasons), it's taking away people's right to be able to choose if they want to allow people to smoke in their public places? It's against human rights to have a blanket decision made against a minority.
Still, if Brian doesn't see these opinions from people that respect his art, then how can he know whether he is being fair in his opinion?
The war in Iraq is a joke.
Amendment; it was a joke, until it actually happened and then people started getting blown up. Now it's just sad!
Look, I don't get why people take so much issue with his soapbox. It won't help that I agree with him on a lot of things (like the moronic trend of demolishing perfectly good public buildings, and smoking, and blah blah blah...) but really, isn't this like walking into a Church and saying "GOD IS A WASTE OF TIME".
I don't know how this thread got started into a bashBrian/defendBrian/crap on about the war/ fest, but I'm not going to bother reading it because I've probably heard it all before!
(goes to read the Soapbox instead).
Amendment; it was a joke, until it actually happened and then people started getting blown up. Now it's just sad!
Look, I don't get why people take so much issue with his soapbox. It won't help that I agree with him on a lot of things (like the moronic trend of demolishing perfectly good public buildings, and smoking, and blah blah blah...) but really, isn't this like walking into a Church and saying "GOD IS A WASTE OF TIME".
I don't know how this thread got started into a bashBrian/defendBrian/crap on about the war/ fest, but I'm not going to bother reading it because I've probably heard it all before!
(goes to read the Soapbox instead).
I read the soap box most days, but the last few weeks have been mental! I think now hes on a break from the tour that he's got too much time on his hands.
Im a smoker, I sometimes think he'd rather have me hung drawn and quartered than enjoy a smoke. Yes, Im not a fan of smoking in restaurants, but he thinks that you shouldnt smoke anywhere, at anytime! I bet he'd rather watch me snort a line of coke than light up!
Pisses me right off, its the individuals choice, its not as though Brian has to pay my medical bills.
Im a smoker, I sometimes think he'd rather have me hung drawn and quartered than enjoy a smoke. Yes, Im not a fan of smoking in restaurants, but he thinks that you shouldnt smoke anywhere, at anytime! I bet he'd rather watch me snort a line of coke than light up!
Pisses me right off, its the individuals choice, its not as though Brian has to pay my medical bills.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]JamieSureWould<br><font size=1>QOQOW wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i want the people who are terrorists dead no one else, no one else at all[/QUOTE]
'Osama's followers' aren't the only ones who are known terrorists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_groups
'Osama's followers' aren't the only ones who are known terrorists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_groups
Benn- I said in my post that Liberals think they are tolerant people but are not really, and you emphasized that point well. Taking away the right to smoke does infringe on someones rights. I don't smoke but understand the dilemma.
The smokers' right to smoke has nothing to do with the hypocritical approach of the government to sanction crap like that, at the same time as putting on advertisements to try and cut down on it! It's insane.
To be realistic, alcohol and tobacco shouldn't be advertised at all (positively or negatively) because they're both so harmful. The idea that the government will happily tax something that kills people by the truckload is ridiculous.
And I really do think they should just ban the fucking things anyway. The 'right-to-smoke' won't suffer much if they're not "officially available". People who really really want to smoke will figure out something.
To be realistic, alcohol and tobacco shouldn't be advertised at all (positively or negatively) because they're both so harmful. The idea that the government will happily tax something that kills people by the truckload is ridiculous.
And I really do think they should just ban the fucking things anyway. The 'right-to-smoke' won't suffer much if they're not "officially available". People who really really want to smoke will figure out something.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]coops wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Benn- I said in my post that Liberals think they are tolerant people but are not really, and you emphasized that point well. Taking away the right to smoke does infringe on someones rights. I don't smoke but understand the dilemma. [/QUOTE]
You can still smoke if you want, just not in public places. Smoking is different from, say, drinking alcohol, because when you are drinking alcohol, it does not affect others directly, but when you are smoking others may unwantingly inhale smoke, which is toxic.
Besides, it stinks. The worst thing after going out on a Saturday night and coming home is the stench of smoke on my clothing. A night in a smokey club kills my voice too. So, yay, for smoking bans. I can't wait until they are in effect here as well!
You can still smoke if you want, just not in public places. Smoking is different from, say, drinking alcohol, because when you are drinking alcohol, it does not affect others directly, but when you are smoking others may unwantingly inhale smoke, which is toxic.
Besides, it stinks. The worst thing after going out on a Saturday night and coming home is the stench of smoke on my clothing. A night in a smokey club kills my voice too. So, yay, for smoking bans. I can't wait until they are in effect here as well!