[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Suigi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]And as far as I know, Self Made Man was indeed an Innnuendo demo, along with Robbery and Secret Fantasy.[/QUOTE]
Yes indeed.
Note: Some songs on Roger's album Fun In Space contain ideas which were thought up during the Game-sessions, but didn't made it on the Queen album. So Roger worked further on with the ideas and eventually he used them for his solo album.
Good Times Are Now is very similiar to Coming Soon for example. It has the same guitar riff in the middle, also the same beat/tempo.
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"poor quality Silver Salmon"... which version have you been listening to??
If you ask me his voice does remind me more of Queen II than anything on Silver Salmon, because he was still a little inexperienced but by the 2nd album he was at least trying things a little out of his range (heck, it's how you grow!).
If you ask me his voice does remind me more of Queen II than anything on Silver Salmon, because he was still a little inexperienced but by the 2nd album he was at least trying things a little out of his range (heck, it's how you grow!).
OK.
I hope this is more complete now.
This is the list that was allready posted here, but I added some information.
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PRE-QUEEN DEMOS
1984 Guitar/vocals by Brian May, vocals by Tim Staffell - 1964-1968. All tracks below were recorded at Thames Television studios in early 1967.)
01 - Hold On! I'm Coming (originally by Sam & Dave)
02 - Knock On Wood (originally by Otis Redding)
03 - N.S.U. (originally by Cream)
04 - How Can It Be (originally by The Birds)
05 - Step On Me (Take 1) by 1984
06 - Step On Me (Take 2) by 1984
07 - Purple Haze (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
08 - Our Love Is Driftin' (originally by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band)
09- Remember (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
10 - Sweet Wine (originally by Cream)
Left Handed Marriage (Guitar/backing vocals by Brian May - 1967)
- I Need Time
- Appointment
- She Was Once My Friend
Smile (Guitar/vocals/backing vocals by Brian May --- Drums/vocals/backing vocals by Roger Taylor ---> 1968-1970.)
- Doin' All Right
- Blag
- April Lady
- Polar Bear
- Earth
- Step On Me
IBEX (Freddie Mercury on vocals. Tracks below are from a live concert at the Liverpool Sink Club on the 9th September 1969. They were recorded on a reel-to-reel
tape recorder.)
- Communication Breakdown (originally by Led Zeppelin)
- Rain (originally by The Beatles)
- We're Going Wrong (originally by Cream)
- Rock Me Baby (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Stone Free (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Jailhouse Rock (originally by Elvis Presley)
- Crossroads (originally by Cream)
- Vagabond Outcast by IBEX
- We're going home (originally by Ten Years After, arrangement by Ibex)
Wreckage (Freddie Mercury on vocals. The demo tracks below were recorded in a flat/appartment in Barnes, London. ---> 1969. Each version is actually different
fragments of the song recorded seperately over a period of ten minutes. Each version features different fragments edited together, but they are essentially
the same recording.) (Thanks to JSS for some of the info)
- Green (Version 1)
- Green (Version 2)
- Green (Version 3)
- Green (Version 4)
Larry Lurex (Freddie Mercury on vocals, Brian May on guitar, Roger Taylor on drums ---> 1972.)
- I Can Hear Music (originally by The Beach Boys)
- Goin' Back (originally by Carole King)
QUEEN DEMOS
1971 De Lane Lea Demos
Keep Yourself Alive
The Night Comes Down (later used on "QUEEN")
Great King Rat
Jesus
Liar
QUEEN-sessions (1972)
01 Polar Bear - Take 1
02 Studio talking
03 Polar Bear - take 2
Hangman (only some copies of this tape exist)
BBC Session 2 - 25th July 1973
01 - Keep Yourself Alive
02 - Liar
03 - See What A Fool I've Been ('Serious' version with alternate lyrics)
04 - Son And Daughter
Queen II-sessions (August 1973)
Procession - Demo
Funny How Love Is (instrumental demo)
BBC Session 4 - 3rd April 1974
01 - Modern Times Rock n' Roll
02 - Nevermore
03 - White Queen (As It Began) (featuring Freddie Mercury on piano)
04 - March Of The Black Queen (Album version that fades out at the intro of Funny How Love Is
BBC Session 5 - 16th October 1974
01 - Now I'm Here
02 - Stone Cold Crazy
03 - Flick Of The Wrist
04 - Tenement Funster
A Day At The Races (1976)
Tie Your Mother Down (Brian vocals)
Somebody To Love (Instrumental, with talking after piano mistakes)
Woe (rumored to exist, but probably doesn't)
News Of The World (summer 1977)
01 - Jam Session
02 - Silver Salmon (features studio talking at the beginning and the intro of "Seven Seas Of Rhye" at the end)
Feelings (Take 9 - Studio)
Feelings (take 9 - Convention, features studio noise at the beginning)
BBC Session 6 - 28th October 1977
01 - Spread Your Wings (Heavy rock version)
02 - It's Late (featuring electronic/synthesised section, similar to Get Down Make Love)
03 - My Melancholy Blues (featuring Brian May on guitar)
04 - We Will Rock You (S
I hope this is more complete now.
This is the list that was allready posted here, but I added some information.
------------------------------
PRE-QUEEN DEMOS
1984 Guitar/vocals by Brian May, vocals by Tim Staffell - 1964-1968. All tracks below were recorded at Thames Television studios in early 1967.)
01 - Hold On! I'm Coming (originally by Sam & Dave)
02 - Knock On Wood (originally by Otis Redding)
03 - N.S.U. (originally by Cream)
04 - How Can It Be (originally by The Birds)
05 - Step On Me (Take 1) by 1984
06 - Step On Me (Take 2) by 1984
07 - Purple Haze (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
08 - Our Love Is Driftin' (originally by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band)
09- Remember (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
10 - Sweet Wine (originally by Cream)
Left Handed Marriage (Guitar/backing vocals by Brian May - 1967)
- I Need Time
- Appointment
- She Was Once My Friend
Smile (Guitar/vocals/backing vocals by Brian May --- Drums/vocals/backing vocals by Roger Taylor ---> 1968-1970.)
- Doin' All Right
- Blag
- April Lady
- Polar Bear
- Earth
- Step On Me
IBEX (Freddie Mercury on vocals. Tracks below are from a live concert at the Liverpool Sink Club on the 9th September 1969. They were recorded on a reel-to-reel
tape recorder.)
- Communication Breakdown (originally by Led Zeppelin)
- Rain (originally by The Beatles)
- We're Going Wrong (originally by Cream)
- Rock Me Baby (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Stone Free (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Jailhouse Rock (originally by Elvis Presley)
- Crossroads (originally by Cream)
- Vagabond Outcast by IBEX
- We're going home (originally by Ten Years After, arrangement by Ibex)
Wreckage (Freddie Mercury on vocals. The demo tracks below were recorded in a flat/appartment in Barnes, London. ---> 1969. Each version is actually different
fragments of the song recorded seperately over a period of ten minutes. Each version features different fragments edited together, but they are essentially
the same recording.) (Thanks to JSS for some of the info)
- Green (Version 1)
- Green (Version 2)
- Green (Version 3)
- Green (Version 4)
Larry Lurex (Freddie Mercury on vocals, Brian May on guitar, Roger Taylor on drums ---> 1972.)
- I Can Hear Music (originally by The Beach Boys)
- Goin' Back (originally by Carole King)
QUEEN DEMOS
1971 De Lane Lea Demos
Keep Yourself Alive
The Night Comes Down (later used on "QUEEN")
Great King Rat
Jesus
Liar
QUEEN-sessions (1972)
01 Polar Bear - Take 1
02 Studio talking
03 Polar Bear - take 2
Hangman (only some copies of this tape exist)
BBC Session 2 - 25th July 1973
01 - Keep Yourself Alive
02 - Liar
03 - See What A Fool I've Been ('Serious' version with alternate lyrics)
04 - Son And Daughter
Queen II-sessions (August 1973)
Procession - Demo
Funny How Love Is (instrumental demo)
BBC Session 4 - 3rd April 1974
01 - Modern Times Rock n' Roll
02 - Nevermore
03 - White Queen (As It Began) (featuring Freddie Mercury on piano)
04 - March Of The Black Queen (Album version that fades out at the intro of Funny How Love Is
BBC Session 5 - 16th October 1974
01 - Now I'm Here
02 - Stone Cold Crazy
03 - Flick Of The Wrist
04 - Tenement Funster
A Day At The Races (1976)
Tie Your Mother Down (Brian vocals)
Somebody To Love (Instrumental, with talking after piano mistakes)
Woe (rumored to exist, but probably doesn't)
News Of The World (summer 1977)
01 - Jam Session
02 - Silver Salmon (features studio talking at the beginning and the intro of "Seven Seas Of Rhye" at the end)
Feelings (Take 9 - Studio)
Feelings (take 9 - Convention, features studio noise at the beginning)
BBC Session 6 - 28th October 1977
01 - Spread Your Wings (Heavy rock version)
02 - It's Late (featuring electronic/synthesised section, similar to Get Down Make Love)
03 - My Melancholy Blues (featuring Brian May on guitar)
04 - We Will Rock You (S
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FlohohneH wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
New Dark Ages (apparently attempted during these sessions)*[/QUOTE]
Brian said on his Soapbox recently that he has never even heard New Dark Ages. I find it unlikely that there is a Queen version of this.
New Dark Ages (apparently attempted during these sessions)*[/QUOTE]
Brian said on his Soapbox recently that he has never even heard New Dark Ages. I find it unlikely that there is a Queen version of this.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FlohohneH wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
New Dark Ages (apparently attempted during these sessions)*[/QUOTE]
Brian said on his Soapbox recently that he has never even heard New Dark Ages. I find it unlikely that there is a Queen version of this.
[/QUOTE]
Plenty of songs have been recorded without other members present - isn't it possible that F/J/R recorded a backing track on Brian's day off?
unlikely, I'll grant you, but possible...
New Dark Ages (apparently attempted during these sessions)*[/QUOTE]
Brian said on his Soapbox recently that he has never even heard New Dark Ages. I find it unlikely that there is a Queen version of this.
[/QUOTE]
Plenty of songs have been recorded without other members present - isn't it possible that F/J/R recorded a backing track on Brian's day off?
unlikely, I'll grant you, but possible...
Bah you just know Brian would've seen that they'd logged time in the studio without him, he would've ran straight in there for a listen.
"Without ME? Without ME!?" he might have cried.
"Without ME? Without ME!?" he might have cried.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bas asselbergs wrote: [/QUOTENAME]there is quit a bit more indeed Jeroen! Thanks for sharing them! When will you be here again? It is good then, that there are still a LOT of surprises for most of the people out there in the anthology box-set that will see the light of day in 2009....[/QUOTE]
Are you saying there is a box set full of demos that's going to be released? I haven't heard about this myself. Maybe it's only news to me but I'd like more info :p
Are you saying there is a box set full of demos that's going to be released? I haven't heard about this myself. Maybe it's only news to me but I'd like more info :p
i've got a Freddie-Vocal-Demo of 'Rock It' (the Game-Sessions) somewhere...
What's the title of the song again that was worked out completely by queen and then given to ...ähm ähm... anita dobson ? (according to greg on the us-convention 2006)
i dunno why everybody tells that 'face it alone' is an innuendo demo... it was recorded the same week as 'party' (the miracle-sessions)...
as i'm too lazy by now in browsing your very nice notes i might post later on several more demos and rumoured ones...
cu
ahja: rumoured:
Let Me live (with (pretty drunken) rod steward, the works sessions)
the game (with andy gibb)
two worlds apart (miracle/innuendo-sessions)
What's the title of the song again that was worked out completely by queen and then given to ...ähm ähm... anita dobson ? (according to greg on the us-convention 2006)
i dunno why everybody tells that 'face it alone' is an innuendo demo... it was recorded the same week as 'party' (the miracle-sessions)...
as i'm too lazy by now in browsing your very nice notes i might post later on several more demos and rumoured ones...
cu
ahja: rumoured:
Let Me live (with (pretty drunken) rod steward, the works sessions)
the game (with andy gibb)
two worlds apart (miracle/innuendo-sessions)
ok, here i am again:
QueenII: March of the black queen (take 3-5)
A Kind Of Magic:
TavasziSzel (Rehearsal (several versions)
Who Wants To Live Forever (Skip Demos)
Europe Live:
Seagull (live in rome) - okok, not a demo, but an official inofficial recording given to the italian fan club (proper production like the other 46 tracks).
Hot Space:
I Go Crazy (live in vienna during the guitar solo) (maybe no proper demo aswell. depends on pov.)
sorry for possibly doubleing sth.
nice thread. would be fine if one or the other demo or convention tape would show up some time :-)
two more:
Solo projects:
roger's four songs for his second album.
Another world: some kind of Jam as free giveaway for website-visitors (back in '98)
Mr.Bad Guy:
some synthie crap as FM was composing "Let's turn It On' or sth. (about a minute, definetly NOT worth listening to)
QueenII: March of the black queen (take 3-5)
A Kind Of Magic:
TavasziSzel (Rehearsal (several versions)
Who Wants To Live Forever (Skip Demos)
Europe Live:
Seagull (live in rome) - okok, not a demo, but an official inofficial recording given to the italian fan club (proper production like the other 46 tracks).
Hot Space:
I Go Crazy (live in vienna during the guitar solo) (maybe no proper demo aswell. depends on pov.)
sorry for possibly doubleing sth.
nice thread. would be fine if one or the other demo or convention tape would show up some time :-)
two more:
Solo projects:
roger's four songs for his second album.
Another world: some kind of Jam as free giveaway for website-visitors (back in '98)
Mr.Bad Guy:
some synthie crap as FM was composing "Let's turn It On' or sth. (about a minute, definetly NOT worth listening to)
Hi Lester,
>>As I am not a musician - I can easily buy the 1977 'drum sound' debate becaues this argument has been brought to us by some very smart cookies in the shape of semi-professional and professional drummers.
Neither am I, ut listening to it. it's entirely possible that this is in fact how the first Queen album's drum sound should have been as opposed to what we ended up getting and living with for so long. It's possible that the "cake box" sound Roger ended up with after mixing was simply down to poor quality work by those left in charge. The CD remasters have gone some way towards fiing it, but still.......it's hardly Bonham or Moon, is it :-)
>>On the other hand - I too think that Freddie's voice is PRE-1977, as I too think it sounds 'weak' and more in line with his earlier material.
And this is EXACTLY why it's from the first album. Comparing it with the De Lane Lea demos gives me the feeling that it could almost certainly have been recorded at those sessions but simply not included on the set that they hawked around to the various record companies in search of that elusive deal. Freddie sounds like someone who knows exactly how he should sound and how he will eventually end up sounding, ut at the same time is a little uncertain as to just how to go about getting the end result. There's almost a hesitancy - as if he's consciously holding back.
>>As I am not a musician - I can easily buy the 1977 'drum sound' debate becaues this argument has been brought to us by some very smart cookies in the shape of semi-professional and professional drummers.
Neither am I, ut listening to it. it's entirely possible that this is in fact how the first Queen album's drum sound should have been as opposed to what we ended up getting and living with for so long. It's possible that the "cake box" sound Roger ended up with after mixing was simply down to poor quality work by those left in charge. The CD remasters have gone some way towards fiing it, but still.......it's hardly Bonham or Moon, is it :-)
>>On the other hand - I too think that Freddie's voice is PRE-1977, as I too think it sounds 'weak' and more in line with his earlier material.
And this is EXACTLY why it's from the first album. Comparing it with the De Lane Lea demos gives me the feeling that it could almost certainly have been recorded at those sessions but simply not included on the set that they hawked around to the various record companies in search of that elusive deal. Freddie sounds like someone who knows exactly how he should sound and how he will eventually end up sounding, ut at the same time is a little uncertain as to just how to go about getting the end result. There's almost a hesitancy - as if he's consciously holding back.