[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FLASH DANNY wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]OK, so lets assume that Freddie was still here and Queen had continued touring.
I believe john was in such an uncertain state of mind by the early 90's that he would have left the band, or at the very least he would have refused to tour.
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What gave you the impression that John was thinking of leaving the band in the early 90s? He gave an interview whilst making the video of Days Of Our Lives and sounded quite thankful to still be recording. John was probably more of a businessman than a musician at that point in his career so it'd be slightly irrelevant whether or not he was getting bored with the band's musical output.[/QUOTE]
He also stated several times how he was going through a "very uncertain time in his life" and it is well known he didn't like touring and being away from the family.
Couple that with the fact he has now hung up his bass and left the music business, I don't think it's a huge leap to make.
But I am not second guessing, just debating.
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Togg your reasoning is brain dead. Why would John refuse to tour? He would've stuck with it as long as the others stuck with it. Their touring schedules probably would've slowed anyway because most of them (except Freddie) had family obligations. He wasn't the only one.
Also of note, saying it's extremely not wise to throw out that AIDS kill on both sides. It's very logical to reason that if Freddie wasn't engaging in homosexual activities he would nit have contracted AIDS but if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle so why speculate.
Also of note, saying it's extremely not wise to throw out that AIDS kill on both sides. It's very logical to reason that if Freddie wasn't engaging in homosexual activities he would nit have contracted AIDS but if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle so why speculate.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kdj2hot wrote: [/QUOTENAME]if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle so why speculate.[/QUOTE]
Actually, if your aunt had balls I'd feel sorry for your uncle.
Actually, if your aunt had balls I'd feel sorry for your uncle.
The fuck you mean if he wasn't gay...
note: Homosexuality is in the Genes, its not a state of mind which can be controlled.
He tried to surpress his feelings but eventually came out and become far more confident and happy with himself.
I think we should support AIDS victims and work on eradicating the disease if we are actually angry
note: Homosexuality is in the Genes, its not a state of mind which can be controlled.
He tried to surpress his feelings but eventually came out and become far more confident and happy with himself.
I think we should support AIDS victims and work on eradicating the disease if we are actually angry
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ready_Coddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Homosexuality is in the Genes, its not a state of mind which can be controlled.[/QUOTE]
I know this is way OT, but is that a scientific fact? I thought homosexuality was the result of having some kind of supressed or traumatic early childhood or something, at least that's what Freud thought. By that reckoning, I think Freddie had it pretty hard when he won that baby photo competition. Just imagine -- you can't even hold a pen and people are already bombarding you for autographs! That's got to leave a mark...
I know this is way OT, but is that a scientific fact? I thought homosexuality was the result of having some kind of supressed or traumatic early childhood or something, at least that's what Freud thought. By that reckoning, I think Freddie had it pretty hard when he won that baby photo competition. Just imagine -- you can't even hold a pen and people are already bombarding you for autographs! That's got to leave a mark...
Oh my Gosh, what a bunch of ignorant commentaries we have here!!! I just cannot believe this.
"Surely you must've read something stupider in some magazine or tabloid. Granted, AIDS isn't an exclusively homosexual thing, but I could put my own health on the line when I say that Freddie would still be with us today if he wasn't homosexual."
There's a whole world of doctors who disagree with you.
Sure, maybe he'd still be here. Maybe he'd still be here if he banged just a different selection of men who'd be slightly luckier. What I was getting at is that there's absolutely no guarantee that you won't cop it off a girl. The transmission is less likely but there you have it.
There's a whole world of doctors who disagree with you.
Sure, maybe he'd still be here. Maybe he'd still be here if he banged just a different selection of men who'd be slightly luckier. What I was getting at is that there's absolutely no guarantee that you won't cop it off a girl. The transmission is less likely but there you have it.
Fair enough. But you don't hear an awful lot about promiscuous hetero celebs who contract AIDS...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Flash Danny Project wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Fair enough. But you don't hear an awful lot about promiscuous hetero celebs who contract AIDS...[/QUOTE]
Go tell that to Magic Johnson.
How many celebrities with AIDS can you name anyway?
Go tell that to Magic Johnson.
How many celebrities with AIDS can you name anyway?
Sry to spoil the fun back there, but homosexuality is a choice. Until There is hard proof that its in your genes, I stand by what I say. And besides, his parents were straight, thers not really anyway it could be genes.
"Fair enough. But you don't hear an awful lot about promiscuous hetero celebs who contract AIDS..."
Since when can we rely on celebrity news for an ounce of truth? Besides it's not like AIDS is the only venereal disease that can kill you, move along.
"Sry to spoil the fun back there, but homosexuality is a choice."
Hahahaha, thanks for that, I haven't heard such a funny joke all day.
I didn't choose to be straight, I just am. I believe all sexual orientation is the same.
I wouldn't bloody 'choose' to be gay, I can tell you that - apart from the arse-sex, there's the nasty business of having to deal with goose-stepping blockheads like yourself.
"Until There is hard proof that its in your genes, I stand by what I say."
Now I can agree with you here, inasmuch as there isn't really proof to say *what* causes all the different kinds of sexuality.
"And besides, his parents were straight, thers not really anyway it could be genes."
If we're to talk genealogy, you've made a misstep here. These things aren't always straight from parent to child. Red hair, for instance, can skip generations at a go.
One must also account for mutations! Mutations from generation to generation are what make evolution work. I'm guessing different factors speed up/slow down the process, and make the changes more or less significant.... who knows.
But yeah, let's not be too rash. Knowing societies prejudices against anything remotely non-hetero, why the hell would anyone 'choose' to be gay??? (aside from an admirable streak of pride in self).
Since when can we rely on celebrity news for an ounce of truth? Besides it's not like AIDS is the only venereal disease that can kill you, move along.
"Sry to spoil the fun back there, but homosexuality is a choice."
Hahahaha, thanks for that, I haven't heard such a funny joke all day.
I didn't choose to be straight, I just am. I believe all sexual orientation is the same.
I wouldn't bloody 'choose' to be gay, I can tell you that - apart from the arse-sex, there's the nasty business of having to deal with goose-stepping blockheads like yourself.
"Until There is hard proof that its in your genes, I stand by what I say."
Now I can agree with you here, inasmuch as there isn't really proof to say *what* causes all the different kinds of sexuality.
"And besides, his parents were straight, thers not really anyway it could be genes."
If we're to talk genealogy, you've made a misstep here. These things aren't always straight from parent to child. Red hair, for instance, can skip generations at a go.
One must also account for mutations! Mutations from generation to generation are what make evolution work. I'm guessing different factors speed up/slow down the process, and make the changes more or less significant.... who knows.
But yeah, let's not be too rash. Knowing societies prejudices against anything remotely non-hetero, why the hell would anyone 'choose' to be gay??? (aside from an admirable streak of pride in self).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingarthur wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sry to spoil the fun back there, but homosexuality is a choice. Until There is hard proof that its in your genes, I stand by what I say. And besides, his parents were straight, thers not really anyway it could be genes.[/QUOTE]
Now I've heard it all
Homosexuality is a choice? and I suppose whether you like hot and spicy food or plain and simple food is a choice!
No, we are all born with pre-determined factors that influence our personality. That's why we are all different, did you choose to like Queen or did you just hear them and think to yourself that sounded good?
Do you choose to like girls with long legs or girls with big arses, no it just happens.
Your comment is one of the most ignorant I've seen in a long time, not since the 80's have I come across just nonsense and homosexuality.
Wake up
Now I've heard it all
Homosexuality is a choice? and I suppose whether you like hot and spicy food or plain and simple food is a choice!
No, we are all born with pre-determined factors that influence our personality. That's why we are all different, did you choose to like Queen or did you just hear them and think to yourself that sounded good?
Do you choose to like girls with long legs or girls with big arses, no it just happens.
Your comment is one of the most ignorant I've seen in a long time, not since the 80's have I come across just nonsense and homosexuality.
Wake up
(Though I'm not sure what this has to do with John....)
I'm gay and I have not even the most minute attraction to the opposite sex. Nothing I've ever tried to do to "cure" myself has ever changed that, just caused more pain. (If someone can tell me how to be attracted to female breasts for instance, then I'd love to hear it! But, you can't.) I could actually date a woman, but since I'd have no physical attraction to her it wouldn't get very far and would just be mean to do that to her (and worse: to the kids if we got married).
Freddie on the other hand is sort of a curious case. Personally I think he was bisexual, because he seemed to have at least some attraction to both sexes. I guess if you're attracted to both, then you can sort of slightly make yourself go more toward one or the other somewhat depending on your state of mind; you could pay attention more to one and block the other out, though you're not really changing your sexuality, just ignoring some of the desires. Whenever I hear of a gay person who supposedly changed and went straight (or a straight person who went gay), after looking at their past they always seem to have been bisexual to begin with....
I'm gay and I have not even the most minute attraction to the opposite sex. Nothing I've ever tried to do to "cure" myself has ever changed that, just caused more pain. (If someone can tell me how to be attracted to female breasts for instance, then I'd love to hear it! But, you can't.) I could actually date a woman, but since I'd have no physical attraction to her it wouldn't get very far and would just be mean to do that to her (and worse: to the kids if we got married).
Freddie on the other hand is sort of a curious case. Personally I think he was bisexual, because he seemed to have at least some attraction to both sexes. I guess if you're attracted to both, then you can sort of slightly make yourself go more toward one or the other somewhat depending on your state of mind; you could pay attention more to one and block the other out, though you're not really changing your sexuality, just ignoring some of the desires. Whenever I hear of a gay person who supposedly changed and went straight (or a straight person who went gay), after looking at their past they always seem to have been bisexual to begin with....