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It's not a negative view, nor a positive view, it's my view. I don't want to persuade you, and you don't want to persuade me, I just feel that there legacy and the music would be better served by working on meaningful product. Lots of people thought the Robbie Willams, 5ive, Pink, Britney, Beyonce things were great for getting Queen out there for a new generation. May have worked, but froma creative POV, those efforts were forgotten in the blink of an eye because they sucked. So some people see those things as great, I see them as musical embarassments (as John Deacon did with the Robbie Williams collaboration.)
I realize the world has changed Donna, but Queen used to be about something other than sales. I love them, but think they've become obsessed with the Queen brand, and forgotten what made Queen music so great.
I realize the world has changed Donna, but Queen used to be about something other than sales. I love them, but think they've become obsessed with the Queen brand, and forgotten what made Queen music so great.
That's why I more and more respect John's decision to stay away from all this bulls**t...
Eeek. Just had a thought.
Would any of them dare to sing IGSM?
:D
Would any of them dare to sing IGSM?
:D
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]BHM 0271 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Mr. Faron Hite, and Donna13, I believe the beauty of this forum is that you, and I, are passionate in our beliefs. I believe Queen ended on November 24, 1991. I believe that no other group in history had a creative run like Queen did from their debut until Jazz. I believe that Freddie Mercury was the greatest rock star ever. I also believe that Queen used to be a creative risk taking entity, concerned about breaking new ground. I believe that they last did that about 25 years ago. I believe that, while of course never expecting Ogre Battle or some other obscure stuff to be played, that Queen plays these shows and does the musical with the sole hope of selling more records. I believe that they don't care about their musical legacy, which I believe is sad. Someone early in the post said that you can't expect them to pander to old fans. Nope, but if they put some time and effort into a box set and throw the odd bone to fans who were around when Queen wasn't a nostalgia act, but creators of some of the gretest music the world has seen, then I'd believe it was about the music. [/QUOTE]
I can't quite subscribe to this view because "Save Me" and "Was It All Worth It" both fall outside of this 'creative run' you mentioned. But I agree with most of the other stuff.
I can't quite subscribe to this view because "Save Me" and "Was It All Worth It" both fall outside of this 'creative run' you mentioned. But I agree with most of the other stuff.
I just believe that saying their legacy isn't safe if they do things like this, is a bit dumb. In other words, doing anything a bit dodgy since 1991 is going to affect how the way people look at the band's past achievements etc.. Sorry, but I just feel that's in your mind. If you want to encase yourself in that way of thinking, it's up to you.
Queen's legacy can never be affected by something so trivial as the stuff they're doing now. Purely because there's a clear mark between the past and present of this band.
Peace,
Adam.
Queen's legacy can never be affected by something so trivial as the stuff they're doing now. Purely because there's a clear mark between the past and present of this band.
Peace,
Adam.
As far as AI goes, sorry to say, it will be the same songs that are played over and over on the radio.
Sure iI would love it if they did something different, but the chances of that are pretty much non-existant.
I can't wait to watch it though...to bad Mandisa got booted off, I think she would have done great.
Sure iI would love it if they did something different, but the chances of that are pretty much non-existant.
I can't wait to watch it though...to bad Mandisa got booted off, I think she would have done great.
That's okay Adam, as I think misquoting or misrepresenting people is a bit dumb, so when I say that "I just feel that their legacy and the music would be better served by working on meaningful product", I'm not saying that their legacy isn't safe. I think they wrote some wonderful songsduring the 80s, but nowhere near what they did in the beginning. No shame in that, everyone has their creative peak. However, if my good fellow critics would read what I say instead of interpeting it the way they want it to read, I've never inferred or implied that they shouldn't tour, or retire or whatever. I just said that all of these things that are strictly ventures designed to keep the brand of Queen in the public eye are totally commercial ventures. Do you really believe that any of these remakes top the original, or are even close? I'd hope not.
QP are very calculated, and take the safe step to ensure mass saturation and satisfaction. Today, I read about David Gilmour touring, and he's playing two sold out shows in Toronto this weekend. The first half of the concert is his new album played in its entirety. The second half, all Pink Floyd. He said he's less concerned about his legacy than he is about his work as an artist at age 60. I don't think Brian and Roger are thinking that way, not saying David Gilmour's right or wrong, just couldn't see Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd ever dreaming of doing A.I.
QP are very calculated, and take the safe step to ensure mass saturation and satisfaction. Today, I read about David Gilmour touring, and he's playing two sold out shows in Toronto this weekend. The first half of the concert is his new album played in its entirety. The second half, all Pink Floyd. He said he's less concerned about his legacy than he is about his work as an artist at age 60. I don't think Brian and Roger are thinking that way, not saying David Gilmour's right or wrong, just couldn't see Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd ever dreaming of doing A.I.
I thought it was a joke, but I guess it's cool, I'll def. watch.
Honestly this is my final word on this, as I'll let you have the true final word Donna :D
I haven't changed my position once. I originally said "...but Donna13, why does "Queen needs all the exposure it can get?" They've sold over 100 million records, getting on American Idol doesn't make their catalogue better or worse, so what's the point of this? Are sales, or worse, popularity, that important to what's left on Queen?"
So I think they're doing it for sales, always have. No biggie, just my thoughts!
I haven't changed my position once. I originally said "...but Donna13, why does "Queen needs all the exposure it can get?" They've sold over 100 million records, getting on American Idol doesn't make their catalogue better or worse, so what's the point of this? Are sales, or worse, popularity, that important to what's left on Queen?"
So I think they're doing it for sales, always have. No biggie, just my thoughts!
Over 150 million records.