[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ravenetta wrote: [/QUOTENAME]they also talk about their money they have and how rich they are now, having more 'bitches' and what a horrible life they came frome when most just grew up in the suburbs.[/QUOTE]
I actually had more respect for rappers like NWA, Public Enemy, and 2Pac because they brought up important issues on their songs like poverty, racism, police brutality, and growing up in the ghetto.
These new rappers now do nothing but blab about all the money they have now.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]billycat wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]wstüssyb wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Every one says that MTV killed videos[/QUOTE]
I always thought people had said Mtv killed radio. They were all about video and video is far from dead. [/QUOTE]
I think it may be a reference to the fact that MTV essentially stopped playing music videos several years ago in favor of all of its crappy original programming, like The Real World, Jackass, Viva La Bam, Pimp My Ride, Cribs, Date My Mom, Made, and on and on. And its sister channel VH-1 essentially did the same thing, although I think they play more music videos in their graveyard hours than MTV does. So the short form music video, which MTV brought ot the masses for a decade or so, really doesn't have a lot of venues to be widely seen anymore, and in that context, MTV has killed the music video format.
I always thought people had said Mtv killed radio. They were all about video and video is far from dead. [/QUOTE]
I think it may be a reference to the fact that MTV essentially stopped playing music videos several years ago in favor of all of its crappy original programming, like The Real World, Jackass, Viva La Bam, Pimp My Ride, Cribs, Date My Mom, Made, and on and on. And its sister channel VH-1 essentially did the same thing, although I think they play more music videos in their graveyard hours than MTV does. So the short form music video, which MTV brought ot the masses for a decade or so, really doesn't have a lot of venues to be widely seen anymore, and in that context, MTV has killed the music video format.
It was also 12 years ago that the Rwanda massacres were going on. Guess who's going to be in the newspapers today?
Two years ago was the tenth anniversary of both events. The front page of my local newspapser had a big picture of Kurt, and there was a corner article on page 14 commemorating the massacres.
The media makes me sick.
Two years ago was the tenth anniversary of both events. The front page of my local newspapser had a big picture of Kurt, and there was a corner article on page 14 commemorating the massacres.
The media makes me sick.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr Faron Hyte wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]billycat wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]wstüssyb wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Every one says that MTV killed videos[/QUOTE]
I always thought people had said Mtv killed radio. They were all about video and video is far from dead. [/QUOTE]
I think it may be a reference to the fact that MTV essentially stopped playing music videos several years ago in favor of all of its crappy original programming, like The Real World, Jackass, Viva La Bam, Pimp My Ride, Cribs, Date My Mom, Made, and on and on. And its sister channel VH-1 essentially did the same thing, although I think they play more music videos in their graveyard hours than MTV does. So the short form music video, which MTV brought ot the masses for a decade or so, really doesn't have a lot of venues to be widely seen anymore, and in that context, MTV has killed the music video format. [/QUOTE]
OK, I see what you're saying, but actually though while I can only speak from what I see here in the US, it seems that Mtv2 and Vh2 / Vh1 classics and a few other various cable station still play tons of videos most of the day and night. I guess maybe not as many people get those channels though.
I always thought people had said Mtv killed radio. They were all about video and video is far from dead. [/QUOTE]
I think it may be a reference to the fact that MTV essentially stopped playing music videos several years ago in favor of all of its crappy original programming, like The Real World, Jackass, Viva La Bam, Pimp My Ride, Cribs, Date My Mom, Made, and on and on. And its sister channel VH-1 essentially did the same thing, although I think they play more music videos in their graveyard hours than MTV does. So the short form music video, which MTV brought ot the masses for a decade or so, really doesn't have a lot of venues to be widely seen anymore, and in that context, MTV has killed the music video format. [/QUOTE]
OK, I see what you're saying, but actually though while I can only speak from what I see here in the US, it seems that Mtv2 and Vh2 / Vh1 classics and a few other various cable station still play tons of videos most of the day and night. I guess maybe not as many people get those channels though.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It was also 12 years ago that the Rwanda massacres were going on. Guess who's going to be in the newspapers today?
Two years ago was the tenth anniversary of both events. The front page of my local newspapser had a big picture of Kurt, and there was a corner article on page 14 commemorating the massacres.
The media makes me sick.
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Well, the media's really about what the mass public finds interesting, not about what an esoteric group of people personally find interesting. To be honest, neither really interests me, but it's a lot easier to poke fun at Cobain.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME] <font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]billycat wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I like Nirvana, but I'll agree that they along with The Doors are extremely overated.
Somehow we never saw Kurt Cobain and Jim Morrison being forced to re-invent the sound of their albums.
Would they pull it out successfully, or rather stuck to fade into obscurity?
Nobody knows for sure what would have happened.[/QUOTE]
While I do enjoy Jim Morrison I would admit that he gets over-rated quite a bit. The Doors as a band is another story.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Jim Morrison is unbelievably over-rated. Loads of people go around with t-shirts of him and they don't even know many songs by him and The Doors.
The Doors themself though, as you said, are a different story.
Anywho, I don't understand this whole 'bash Kurt Cobain' cos I think he was a legend. And for those who know nothing about him and simply say 'ooh, he didn't spell Freddie right' - please get a life.
R.I.P Kurt[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how you don't understand the whole 'bash Kurt Cobain' thing. You don't question the bashing of rap, do you? Just as mainstream rap is comprised of talentless gimps making undeserved millions with unwarranted popularity, so the same could be said about Kurt Cobain.
Cobain? A legend? Yeah, I guess. Then so are the New Kids on the Block, the Backstreet Boys, and *NSYNC. Let's not forget about Britney Spears. And I guess 50 Cent is a legend in the making. How privileged I feel to have lived and to be living in a time when such legends are being born.
Two years ago was the tenth anniversary of both events. The front page of my local newspapser had a big picture of Kurt, and there was a corner article on page 14 commemorating the massacres.
The media makes me sick.
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Well, the media's really about what the mass public finds interesting, not about what an esoteric group of people personally find interesting. To be honest, neither really interests me, but it's a lot easier to poke fun at Cobain.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME] <font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]billycat wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I like Nirvana, but I'll agree that they along with The Doors are extremely overated.
Somehow we never saw Kurt Cobain and Jim Morrison being forced to re-invent the sound of their albums.
Would they pull it out successfully, or rather stuck to fade into obscurity?
Nobody knows for sure what would have happened.[/QUOTE]
While I do enjoy Jim Morrison I would admit that he gets over-rated quite a bit. The Doors as a band is another story.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Jim Morrison is unbelievably over-rated. Loads of people go around with t-shirts of him and they don't even know many songs by him and The Doors.
The Doors themself though, as you said, are a different story.
Anywho, I don't understand this whole 'bash Kurt Cobain' cos I think he was a legend. And for those who know nothing about him and simply say 'ooh, he didn't spell Freddie right' - please get a life.
R.I.P Kurt[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how you don't understand the whole 'bash Kurt Cobain' thing. You don't question the bashing of rap, do you? Just as mainstream rap is comprised of talentless gimps making undeserved millions with unwarranted popularity, so the same could be said about Kurt Cobain.
Cobain? A legend? Yeah, I guess. Then so are the New Kids on the Block, the Backstreet Boys, and *NSYNC. Let's not forget about Britney Spears. And I guess 50 Cent is a legend in the making. How privileged I feel to have lived and to be living in a time when such legends are being born.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
The media makes me sick.
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I couldn't agree more.
The media makes me sick.
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I couldn't agree more.
MTV killed videos by that MTVreality tv format, by practically only playing hip hop songs( at like 4-6 am and 90% of request ahh forgot that show that carson hosted) dropping unplugged, headbangers ball, those live concerts they used to do, in favor of videos being shown only during the spring break special they have that play 9 months out of the year filled with hip hop.
VH1 classic is the only mucis tv channel I can watch really that show the great videos on the 80's and early 90's.
VH1 classic is the only mucis tv channel I can watch really that show the great videos on the 80's and early 90's.
Bloody ell thats weird. Ive had Nevermind on today for the first time in months! RIP.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bloody ell thats weird. Ive had Nevermind on today for the first time in months![/QUOTE]
Haha.. creepy isnt it?
Haha.. creepy isnt it?
May he rest in peace
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME] <font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't get your arguement. Is there ANY valid point in that??? :S
So if I think person X is crap I just compare them to Britney Spears and it makes person X fucking crap? *rolls eyes*
I don't really want to get too into this right now. Mostly because I don't have the time right now, but also because I agree in opinions. If you don't like him and his music and Nirvana then fine.
Perhaps I abused the 'legend' word because maybe he isn't a legend. But he sure is a great artist.
See this is the trouble with Queen fans. In their minds they probably compare everyone to Freddie.
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That's all I was really saying. Surely you can see where people get their opinions of "Kurt Cobain sucks," just as I can see that you think he's a good musician. I mean, I can also see why people can like Britney Spears, too. The legend status was kind of pushing it, though, so I just decided to point that out in my classic sardonic style. Don't get offended...it's just something I HAVE to do.
Ha ha, but can you really blame us for comparing everyone to Freddie? When you've tasted of the divine ambrosia, everything else just seems a little...stale.
So if I think person X is crap I just compare them to Britney Spears and it makes person X fucking crap? *rolls eyes*
I don't really want to get too into this right now. Mostly because I don't have the time right now, but also because I agree in opinions. If you don't like him and his music and Nirvana then fine.
Perhaps I abused the 'legend' word because maybe he isn't a legend. But he sure is a great artist.
See this is the trouble with Queen fans. In their minds they probably compare everyone to Freddie.
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That's all I was really saying. Surely you can see where people get their opinions of "Kurt Cobain sucks," just as I can see that you think he's a good musician. I mean, I can also see why people can like Britney Spears, too. The legend status was kind of pushing it, though, so I just decided to point that out in my classic sardonic style. Don't get offended...it's just something I HAVE to do.
Ha ha, but can you really blame us for comparing everyone to Freddie? When you've tasted of the divine ambrosia, everything else just seems a little...stale.
RIP!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]wstüssyb wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Not jealous. Just tired of it, when 8 out of 10 new bands is hip hop that means it is time for something new. Every one says that MTV killed videos, I think it was hip hop, all those videos are the same thing.[/QUOTE]
AMEN William!
Most Hip-hop videos are nothing but the same shit repeated over and over again...
- All hip-hop videos start in slow motion.
- Rapper and posse arrive at a party in a luxurious car with rims.
- They arrive to be greeted by other posse members
- There's close up shots of chicks shaking their big booties
- They're partying at either a jacuzzi or a swimming pool
- Rapper gives a shout out to his record company.
- Rapper disses a rapper he has a feud with.
Chris Rock was right when he mentioned that rap can no longer be defended on an intelectual level.[/QUOTE]
As sad is this is...I'm gonna go ahead....and AGREE WITH YOU!!! Yeah, its sad, music is in a sad state nowadays...
I would give anything to have partied with Freddie Roger John and Brian in a jacuzzi, CIRCA 1977....THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!!
AMEN William!
Most Hip-hop videos are nothing but the same shit repeated over and over again...
- All hip-hop videos start in slow motion.
- Rapper and posse arrive at a party in a luxurious car with rims.
- They arrive to be greeted by other posse members
- There's close up shots of chicks shaking their big booties
- They're partying at either a jacuzzi or a swimming pool
- Rapper gives a shout out to his record company.
- Rapper disses a rapper he has a feud with.
Chris Rock was right when he mentioned that rap can no longer be defended on an intelectual level.[/QUOTE]
As sad is this is...I'm gonna go ahead....and AGREE WITH YOU!!! Yeah, its sad, music is in a sad state nowadays...
I would give anything to have partied with Freddie Roger John and Brian in a jacuzzi, CIRCA 1977....THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<B>Brokeback Queen <h6>onelonelypussycat wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]wstüssyb wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Not jealous. Just tired of it, when 8 out of 10 new bands is hip hop that means it is time for something new. Every one says that MTV killed videos, I think it was hip hop, all those videos are the same thing.[/QUOTE]
AMEN William!
Most Hip-hop videos are nothing but the same shit repeated over and over again...
- All hip-hop videos start in slow motion.
- Rapper and posse arrive at a party in a luxurious car with rims.
- They arrive to be greeted by other posse members
- There's close up shots of chicks shaking their big booties
- They're partying at either a jacuzzi or a swimming pool
- Rapper gives a shout out to his record company.
- Rapper disses a rapper he has a feud with.
Chris Rock was right when he mentioned that rap can no longer be defended on an intelectual level.[/QUOTE]
As sad is this is...I'm gonna go ahead....and AGREE WITH YOU!!! Yeah, its sad, music is in a sad state nowadays...
[/QUOTE]
I don't agree on your last statement. The versatility nowadays is enourmous. Music from all over the world is easily accesible. The number of live shows is huge, there's way too many choises. It's just the media that pick up the "high-lights", but if you look behind all the hit-lists, there is so much more. It's just a pity that the general public is so damned narrow minded when it comes to music.
AMEN William!
Most Hip-hop videos are nothing but the same shit repeated over and over again...
- All hip-hop videos start in slow motion.
- Rapper and posse arrive at a party in a luxurious car with rims.
- They arrive to be greeted by other posse members
- There's close up shots of chicks shaking their big booties
- They're partying at either a jacuzzi or a swimming pool
- Rapper gives a shout out to his record company.
- Rapper disses a rapper he has a feud with.
Chris Rock was right when he mentioned that rap can no longer be defended on an intelectual level.[/QUOTE]
As sad is this is...I'm gonna go ahead....and AGREE WITH YOU!!! Yeah, its sad, music is in a sad state nowadays...
[/QUOTE]
I don't agree on your last statement. The versatility nowadays is enourmous. Music from all over the world is easily accesible. The number of live shows is huge, there's way too many choises. It's just the media that pick up the "high-lights", but if you look behind all the hit-lists, there is so much more. It's just a pity that the general public is so damned narrow minded when it comes to music.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]willem-jan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<B>Brokeback Queen <h6>onelonelypussycat wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]wstüssyb wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Not jealous. Just tired of it, when 8 out of 10 new bands is hip hop that means it is time for something new. Every one says that MTV killed videos, I think it was hip hop, all those videos are the same thing.[/QUOTE]
AMEN William!
Most Hip-hop videos are nothing but the same shit repeated over and over again...
- All hip-hop videos start in slow motion.
- Rapper and posse arrive at a party in a luxurious car with rims.
- They arrive to be greeted by other posse members
- There's close up shots of chicks shaking their big booties
- They're partying at either a jacuzzi or a swimming pool
- Rapper gives a shout out to his record company.
- Rapper disses a rapper he has a feud with.
Chris Rock was right when he mentioned that rap can no longer be defended on an intelectual level.[/QUOTE]
As sad is this is...I'm gonna go ahead....and AGREE WITH YOU!!! Yeah, its sad, music is in a sad state nowadays...
[/QUOTE]
I don't agree on your last statement. The versatility nowadays is enourmous. Music from all over the world is easily accesible. The number of live shows is huge, there's way too many choises. It's just the media that pick up the "high-lights", but if you look behind all the hit-lists, there is so much more. It's just a pity that the general public is so damned narrow minded when it comes to music. [/QUOTE]
Well, its not ALL in a sad state...just reading that post was really true, at least about hip-hop...
AMEN William!
Most Hip-hop videos are nothing but the same shit repeated over and over again...
- All hip-hop videos start in slow motion.
- Rapper and posse arrive at a party in a luxurious car with rims.
- They arrive to be greeted by other posse members
- There's close up shots of chicks shaking their big booties
- They're partying at either a jacuzzi or a swimming pool
- Rapper gives a shout out to his record company.
- Rapper disses a rapper he has a feud with.
Chris Rock was right when he mentioned that rap can no longer be defended on an intelectual level.[/QUOTE]
As sad is this is...I'm gonna go ahead....and AGREE WITH YOU!!! Yeah, its sad, music is in a sad state nowadays...
[/QUOTE]
I don't agree on your last statement. The versatility nowadays is enourmous. Music from all over the world is easily accesible. The number of live shows is huge, there's way too many choises. It's just the media that pick up the "high-lights", but if you look behind all the hit-lists, there is so much more. It's just a pity that the general public is so damned narrow minded when it comes to music. [/QUOTE]
Well, its not ALL in a sad state...just reading that post was really true, at least about hip-hop...