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Was HotSpace and Freddie's moustache the down fall of Queen in America?

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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]radio_what's_new wrote: [/QUOTENAME]

CLTCL reached number 1 in the USA so no nail there[/QUOTE]

Yeah it became music your parents & little sister listened to. It surpassed Do That To Me One More Time by the Capt. & Tennille. Ozzy, AC/DC & Van Halen=Cool by teenage North American males, Queen was not at this time. The Game was an album I had to listen to at home, at high school I had Ozzy. NAIL
Your right I only really listen to Queen at home.At school and out with my friends it was always Zeppelin Van Halen and Def Leppard.
Looking back, it's amusing that Queen and FM were so popular when he wore leotards and sequins, finger nail polish, was very camp and so on, but start wearing jeans and a "gay" moustache, and you are no longer cool.
In the 80's MTV was becoming popular and video sold singles/albums, and the IWTBF video just did not cut it here. The humor was lost, sales were poor and who tours a country after poor sales?
I love how everyone says the "gay" part of the i want to break free video was the guys dressed up as women.The gay part is the extended middle part with freddie rolling around on the other bodies,blowing the horn and being carried around.That part was the gay part.As far as why their popularity lessened,i think its because their music became uninspired pop.Also because they did 2 soundtracks to two horrible movies and like everyone said,didnt tour here.Check the charts from the Works.GA GA,Break Free,and Hard Life all charted.Not touring here didnt help support that.After that it was too late.
I do remember hearing Radio Ga Ga played on the radio a few times, but not much.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]zone wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Well fist of all if you knew anything about the band you would know the reason they stopped touring the states was because of the back lash they were getting from the press and their own fans.I was there in 82 and it was hard being a Queen fan especially with Freddies new look and coming out with an album like Hot Space didn't help.It's obvious you don't know to much about the bands history.
Let's try and keep this civil.[/QUOTE]

I'm not gonna argue if you were there. Though I'm sure some people who were alive during WW2 wouldn't know more than a researcher now days. Body Language was a top ten, a a bigger hit here than it was in the UK. Under Pressure was also a somewhat big hit and botrh were ion this " shitty" album called Hot Space, yet Hot Space was more successful than any of their other 80's albums minus the Game if you count that as an 80's album... Hmmm, what's the difference between those (2) albums and the rest... oh yeah THEY WEREN'T TOURING. If they have toured they would've been more successful with the mediocre music and had more of a presence. It wasn't a stupid razor thing or fans being pissed off. Fans just forgot about them and there was no incentive to bring them up.
Hot Space(DISCO) AND Flash Gordon AND the moustache AND "I Want To Break Free" all were contributory factors.

Good thing too cos if America had liked Hot Space we might have got Hot Space 2.
Free razors with Hot Space II?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bgordon88 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hot Space(DISCO) AND Flash Gordon AND the moustache AND "I Want To Break Free" all were contributory factors.

Good thing too cos if America had liked Hot Space we might have got Hot Space 2.[/QUOTE]

First of all if you don't live in America your opinion shouldn't count...
Freddies new look in the 80's really did alienate them from their fans in the U.S.And their musical direction didn't help either. It was Freddie who didn't want to come back to the states that's when they discovered South America and found out that they could tour the rest of the world and do just fine with out America. Of course not touring the U.S.heart their popularity there but it was ultimately the negativeness that they encountered that pushed them away from the U.S.
Kdj2hot What do you mean if you don't live in America your opinion doesn't count?Wat are you part of the KKK? Now your really talking stupid.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]zone wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Kdj2hot What do you mean if you don't live in America your opinion doesn't count?Wat are you part of the KKK? Now your really talking stupid.[/QUOTE]

If you don't live in the USA how can you comment on how their popularity was hurt? I doubt that Queen experienced "negativeness" while touring to support Hot Space in the USA. The razor this is blown out of proportion and wasn't that serious. It was mostly a joke I imagine. The way you're trying to portray it is like Freddie was getting bombarded by razors and left the stage grying. It wasn't anywhere close to that.
I want to weigh in with my perspective on this, which I'm sure is different and unique from others that were around at that time.

From a popularity perspective (again, amongst my group of friends) Queen peaked from the time they released NOTW through their Greatest Hits album. Everyone I knew had those albums and played them all the time, with the exception of Flash. Under Pressure was on MTV and in the U.S. Queen was as popular as just about any band around.

Hot Space came out and although Under Pressure was on that record its popularity really coincided with the Greatest Hits. At around this time I was in the military tucked away in the backwaters of Louisiana, didn't have/take the opportunity to see them live, and relied exclusively on MTV for new music. I don't recall seeing any video from Hot Space on MTV and don't recall hearing any Queen songs on the radio. My feeling at the time was that Freddie was probably too flamboyant and gay for American audiences and that was hurting Queen's appeal. When I think about what was on MTV at that time there were certainly a lot of flamboyant performers like Flock of Seagulls and Thompson Twins that were popular but they seemed to be flamboyant in a way I can only describe as "weird". Freddie pushed the envelope in more of a sexual manner that I think made middle America very uncomfortable.

By the time I was in college and grad school Queen had decided to conquer other continents and their popularity in the U.S. suffered as a result. I stopped watching MTV and I think they stopped playing video music anyway. Without an outlet to promote their music they really fell way out of the mainstream.

Oh well, my 2 cents.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kdj2hot wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bgordon88 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hot Space(DISCO) AND Flash Gordon AND the moustache AND "I Want To Break Free" all were contributory factors.

Good thing too cos if America had liked Hot Space we might have got Hot Space 2.[/QUOTE]

First of all if you don't live in America your opinion shouldn't count...[/QUOTE]

I think we are all entitled to opinions on what is going on in other countries. (I have quite a strong opinion on the Iraq war but this might not be the right forum.)

Anyway Queen nearly blew it over here too but we were more forgiving.
If 'Body Language' came out in 2005, trust me, it would of hit #1. A lot of the teens are into sexual and dance music now... I had THREE ladies strip in front of me while I was playing 'Body Language' on my cassette player, and I did not request a strip show. In fact, every teen girl I play 'Hot Space' to, LOVES the album. Boys, they usually like the rock songs, but females prefer the dance stuff. Though if the girl is listening to the dance part, the men will too.

I NEVER leave my house without my Hot Space cassette now. The only thing people dislike is when I'm playing Body Language going through the McDonald's drivethru cause the ladies there arn't good on their bodies, reminds me of the fat ladies in the video.
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