[QUOTE]Freddie very way could have contracted HIV in 1981??...1978?? ...or earlier??[/QUOTE]
I don't think it was that early. Let's not forget he did stop taking the medication that was keeping him alive. He probably would have lasted longer than he did.
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Oh, c'mon! He stopped taking medications, because it just didn't help him in anything. He couldn't live with his usual life any longer, so there was no sense in keeping it. His life was singing, performing and recording. When he was to weak to do it, he stopped.
And still, some don't see any difference between AIDS and HIV. Being only HIV positive and taking some "cocktails for life" people can live till getting very old. But there is no medication for AIDS itself, even today.
And still, some don't see any difference between AIDS and HIV. Being only HIV positive and taking some "cocktails for life" people can live till getting very old. But there is no medication for AIDS itself, even today.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]eedodededededea wrote: [/QUOTENAME]well he gave up drugs and drinkin in mid80-s and gave up smoking in 1989 so...[/QUOTE]
Never gave up drinking int he mid 80s... Brian said he would down vodka during the Innuendo and Made In Heaven sessions and hammer the vocals on the first try. Wouldn't say he gave up smoking either... didn't someone say behind the scene clips of 'Days Of Our Lives' had him sitting in a chair smoking a cigarette?
Never gave up drinking int he mid 80s... Brian said he would down vodka during the Innuendo and Made In Heaven sessions and hammer the vocals on the first try. Wouldn't say he gave up smoking either... didn't someone say behind the scene clips of 'Days Of Our Lives' had him sitting in a chair smoking a cigarette?
In 87 he found out he had AIDS, not HIV+ but Aids so he couldve have been HIV+ thru the 80's for all we kno but just never knew it cuz it could take years for it show up on a test thats y they say u should be tested yearly if u think ur at risk , plus u can be HIV+ and never have any symptoms.The medications now can keep u from ever gettin AIDS but ull always be HIV+....unfortunatly it was too late for Freddie cuz he already had full blown AIDS when he found out :-( .....altho Jim Hutton is in good health and still with us thanks to those meds.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FreMe wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What? I thought Freddie got infected around '93...?[/QUOTE]
Sweetepie, he died in 91... [/QUOTE]
What?? Freddie is dead?! Why didn't anyone tell me? I had no idea![/QUOTE]
oh, so funny you are...
Sweetepie, he died in 91... [/QUOTE]
What?? Freddie is dead?! Why didn't anyone tell me? I had no idea![/QUOTE]
oh, so funny you are...
This thread is making me sad...I'm am going to leave it now... :(
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<B>Jellybean Queen <h6>sweet body kisses wrote: [/QUOTENAME]This thread is making me sad...I'm am going to leave it now... :([/QUOTE]
yes and me
just want to say that freddie got a aids test in 1985 and it came out that he didnt have aids then he did another 1 in 1986 and it came bk that he did have aids so he got aids in 1986!
yes and me
just want to say that freddie got a aids test in 1985 and it came out that he didnt have aids then he did another 1 in 1986 and it came bk that he did have aids so he got aids in 1986!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ChinesedogTorture wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I thought it was around '83.[/QUOTE]
no way!!!!!!!!!1 everyone know's that
yeah think around few weeks after wembley or few moths after ...
(wembley 86')
no way!!!!!!!!!1 everyone know's that
yeah think around few weeks after wembley or few moths after ...
(wembley 86')
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I heard in some interview with one of the people close to Freddie, that he was very obsessed and scared of contracting HIV and that he would get tested quite often. I don't think he waited that long, mid eighties to take a test, I am sure he was already being checked out much earlier.
I wouldn't be surprised if he knew that there was something wrong with him in 1983. Queen took a year off from touring that year. There were issues within the band, but who knows what was really going on. Perhaps Freddie needed some time to think things through. Then on The Works album, all pictures of him, look very serious as if there was something on his mind. [/QUOTE]
First of all, you people obviously have very lil knowledge about AIDS. It wasn't a way to test for it until 1985. I'll probably reply again if I read something else that's wrong.
I wouldn't be surprised if he knew that there was something wrong with him in 1983. Queen took a year off from touring that year. There were issues within the band, but who knows what was really going on. Perhaps Freddie needed some time to think things through. Then on The Works album, all pictures of him, look very serious as if there was something on his mind. [/QUOTE]
First of all, you people obviously have very lil knowledge about AIDS. It wasn't a way to test for it until 1985. I'll probably reply again if I read something else that's wrong.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]sandro wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He fisrt got ADIS in the 90-91. if you do not know the difference between HIV/ADIS , then ADIS is the Virus that comes from HIV and you begin to development Cancer and the immune system can´t hold together anymore and so on, and it´s happends over a years periode, so Freddie lives about 4-5 years with HIV, which is the average without medication ( Which didn´t exicst in the late 80 and early 90)[/QUOTE]
who said he had AIDS in 90/91. You're just talking out your ass. I don't think he ever knew he was HIV positive I think he found out he had full blown AIDS in 1987 which would go with the doctors telling him he may not live to see the Miracle released.
who said he had AIDS in 90/91. You're just talking out your ass. I don't think he ever knew he was HIV positive I think he found out he had full blown AIDS in 1987 which would go with the doctors telling him he may not live to see the Miracle released.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]inmsthebest wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fiennessa wrote: [/QUOTENAME]How to hell could Freddie take his tests in the beginning of 80ties if by that time there was nothing like AIDS/HIV known!!
The first case, the first person with full AIDS appeared in 1980 in LA and then in NYC. AIDS was named somewhere in 1983, but still there no-one knew what causes this illness. HIV was discovered as virus in 1986. So this is absolutely impossible to do the tests towards HIV antibodies before this time!
Anyway Freddie could get HIV in 70ties in America. I'm pretty sure even he couldn't tell when and from whom he got it.
Also he could suspect he is infected before taking tests in 1987. What is a great deal in it? His friends and ex-lovers died or suffered from it, so his suspitions where quite obvious. [/QUOTE]
The first case I believe was around 1978?
Doctors went absolutely shocked and didn't really know what the hell was that.
I remember it from a tv documentary.[/QUOTE]`Obviusly you're not the best because possible cases of AIDS date back way before then. Even before 1959 and the David Carr incident which turned out to be a fraud. The Hep B vaccine trials are a good way to look back at the history of AIDS. Hep B was running rampard through the gay community in the days before IADS in a NY many gays signed up. Looking back at samples HIV first started to show up after 1976. Noo traces of it before then. It's speculated that it spread through the world because of the bi-centinnial and all the people from afround the world visiting the USA then.
Completely unrelated, the Hep B vaccine trials may be responsible for AIDS because some of that blood was taking to create the vaccine. Some batches were even engineeered in labs from wild chimp blood which is a major theory of how AIDS because so destructive (I wonder how many people believe the Africans fucking monkeys rumor from racist propaganda). The places where the vaccine were majorly tested? West Africa and New York city. Africans and gay Americans, tweo completely different groups but the same virus run through both communities. It's only logical to assume that the Hep B vaccine trials caused AIDS, whether trough negligiance or intentionally for some reason.
The first case, the first person with full AIDS appeared in 1980 in LA and then in NYC. AIDS was named somewhere in 1983, but still there no-one knew what causes this illness. HIV was discovered as virus in 1986. So this is absolutely impossible to do the tests towards HIV antibodies before this time!
Anyway Freddie could get HIV in 70ties in America. I'm pretty sure even he couldn't tell when and from whom he got it.
Also he could suspect he is infected before taking tests in 1987. What is a great deal in it? His friends and ex-lovers died or suffered from it, so his suspitions where quite obvious. [/QUOTE]
The first case I believe was around 1978?
Doctors went absolutely shocked and didn't really know what the hell was that.
I remember it from a tv documentary.[/QUOTE]`Obviusly you're not the best because possible cases of AIDS date back way before then. Even before 1959 and the David Carr incident which turned out to be a fraud. The Hep B vaccine trials are a good way to look back at the history of AIDS. Hep B was running rampard through the gay community in the days before IADS in a NY many gays signed up. Looking back at samples HIV first started to show up after 1976. Noo traces of it before then. It's speculated that it spread through the world because of the bi-centinnial and all the people from afround the world visiting the USA then.
Completely unrelated, the Hep B vaccine trials may be responsible for AIDS because some of that blood was taking to create the vaccine. Some batches were even engineeered in labs from wild chimp blood which is a major theory of how AIDS because so destructive (I wonder how many people believe the Africans fucking monkeys rumor from racist propaganda). The places where the vaccine were majorly tested? West Africa and New York city. Africans and gay Americans, tweo completely different groups but the same virus run through both communities. It's only logical to assume that the Hep B vaccine trials caused AIDS, whether trough negligiance or intentionally for some reason.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]eedodededededea wrote: [/QUOTENAME]well he gave up drugs and drinkin in mid80-s and gave up smoking in 1989 so...[/QUOTE]
Um, he didn't gaive up smoking. Where did this rumor start? You can see him smoking in a few pics. If he really did get tested after Live AID then maybe he was recently infected then. Maybe he found out he had HIV in 1985. who really knows. That would make more sense then being given a clean bill in 1985.
Um, he didn't gaive up smoking. Where did this rumor start? You can see him smoking in a few pics. If he really did get tested after Live AID then maybe he was recently infected then. Maybe he found out he had HIV in 1985. who really knows. That would make more sense then being given a clean bill in 1985.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]FreMe to answer your Q. It does make a difference to use a condom even if both people are infected, due to HIV strain variety and high mutation rate. Two people could be exchanging different virus classes and mutations making virus that much more aggressive. I can only speculate that Freedie could have had sex with multiple HIV positive individuals making his virus that much more aggressive.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I thought about that, too. It really isn't when (singular) Freddie got AIDS, but how many whens. He looked pretty darn healthy and strong when he and Montserrat did their Barcelona performance. When Queen did the Montreux pop festival (I can't remember for sure what it was called or even where/when it was. Anyway, they were on a small stage, and Freddie wore red and white, and it's where they had to mime.) He had some bruises on his arm as I recall.
Since HIV/AIDS information has been around for so long, I SHOULD know this, but I don't. Are there any lab techs out there? When a person is tested for HIV, is the result either postive or negative? Such as, is it either yes or no? If yes, what is yes? Is it blood cells such as white blood cells that are increased or decreased or different than normal? Or does a virus actually show up similar to when a person has a strep throat, and a throat culture shows the streptococcus bacteria? Is it antibodies that show up? WHAT is positive?
Is it symptoms alone that make a diagnosis go from calling the condition HIV to AIDS? Or is there some kind of blood test that positively indicates the person has AIDS? If so, what is the blood test, and what is it measuring? Are there different strains and mutations of AIDS? If so, how many have been identified? Are there "grades" of AIDS defining the severity such as how cancers are classified, as in stage I, II, III, and IV - with the highest being the worst? If so, what are they, and would that be determined by biopsy or blood work?
And finally, about sterioids. I have a sister with brain tumors who occasionally gets zapped with radiation beams that sizzle the tumors, and they slowly decay, but the treatment can also cause bleeding and swelling in the brain, and thus she is always put on large doses of steroids with each treatment, but the steroid doses are slowly tapered down and finally off over weeks' time. One of the side effects is getting a "moon" face, and I do mean moon. Her face gets as round as a pumpkin or a dinner plate. I always thought this was an irreversible condition, but when she is off steroids, her face goes back to normal. I don't recall ever thinking Freddie's face looked puffy or round. Another side effect of steroids is osteoporosis or "thinning" decalcification of the bones. In the spine the individual vertebrae can "crumble" or partially collapse putting strain on adjacent discs, muscles, nerves, etc. Perhaps this is what Freddie had as either Freestone or Hutton talked about his bones, was it cracking?, that he had in his final hours. AIDS is wicked wicked wicked.
Hmm, I thought about that, too. It really isn't when (singular) Freddie got AIDS, but how many whens. He looked pretty darn healthy and strong when he and Montserrat did their Barcelona performance. When Queen did the Montreux pop festival (I can't remember for sure what it was called or even where/when it was. Anyway, they were on a small stage, and Freddie wore red and white, and it's where they had to mime.) He had some bruises on his arm as I recall.
Since HIV/AIDS information has been around for so long, I SHOULD know this, but I don't. Are there any lab techs out there? When a person is tested for HIV, is the result either postive or negative? Such as, is it either yes or no? If yes, what is yes? Is it blood cells such as white blood cells that are increased or decreased or different than normal? Or does a virus actually show up similar to when a person has a strep throat, and a throat culture shows the streptococcus bacteria? Is it antibodies that show up? WHAT is positive?
Is it symptoms alone that make a diagnosis go from calling the condition HIV to AIDS? Or is there some kind of blood test that positively indicates the person has AIDS? If so, what is the blood test, and what is it measuring? Are there different strains and mutations of AIDS? If so, how many have been identified? Are there "grades" of AIDS defining the severity such as how cancers are classified, as in stage I, II, III, and IV - with the highest being the worst? If so, what are they, and would that be determined by biopsy or blood work?
And finally, about sterioids. I have a sister with brain tumors who occasionally gets zapped with radiation beams that sizzle the tumors, and they slowly decay, but the treatment can also cause bleeding and swelling in the brain, and thus she is always put on large doses of steroids with each treatment, but the steroid doses are slowly tapered down and finally off over weeks' time. One of the side effects is getting a "moon" face, and I do mean moon. Her face gets as round as a pumpkin or a dinner plate. I always thought this was an irreversible condition, but when she is off steroids, her face goes back to normal. I don't recall ever thinking Freddie's face looked puffy or round. Another side effect of steroids is osteoporosis or "thinning" decalcification of the bones. In the spine the individual vertebrae can "crumble" or partially collapse putting strain on adjacent discs, muscles, nerves, etc. Perhaps this is what Freddie had as either Freestone or Hutton talked about his bones, was it cracking?, that he had in his final hours. AIDS is wicked wicked wicked.
well, that's something that even freddie would ignore, but he probably caught it in early eighties, since he used to go gay pubs at that time where he had keys of special rooms where wild sex was goin' on.
"When did Freddie get Aids?"
When he got fucked in the arse. It's a pretty simple concept. It's like the lotto. You can't win if you don't play.
When he got fucked in the arse. It's a pretty simple concept. It's like the lotto. You can't win if you don't play.