I was wondering if the hero, original studio song is real or ... i mean, how HIGH can human being sing... is this for real Freddie voice or a bit modified, or edited... its too freeking HIGH!!!
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I think they did the same with Another One Bites The Dust. Yes, it's high and it doesn't sound like Freddie's natural voice. I think they highered the pitch a little.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=blue>Rick wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think they did the same with Another One Bites The Dust. Yes, it's high and it doesn't sound like Freddie's natural voice. I think they highered the pitch a little.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure? As for AOBTD I don't think it has to be pitched. Freddie is using a style where he is just letting it all out. A little like Gimme The Prize. That one pitched too?
Are you sure? As for AOBTD I don't think it has to be pitched. Freddie is using a style where he is just letting it all out. A little like Gimme The Prize. That one pitched too?
Bites The Dust is raised by a half-step only. I doubt Hero is speeded up. He really could sing that high, or even more.
Ummmmmm...have you not heard his solo album...particularly Exercises in Free Love? Also, listen to his duet album with Montserrat Caballe...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen T wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ummmmmm...have you not heard his solo album...particularly Exercises in Free Love? Also, listen to his duet album with Montserrat Caballe...[/QUOTE]
YES, but he sang that one with his falset-voice, and that makes a huge difference.
The Hero and AOBTD are sung with the midrange-voice (don't know how to call it exactly) but Exercises in Free Love is a lot easier to sing than AOBTD!
I sang both, or, must I say, tried both.
EIFL was no problem, AOBTD nearly killed me and was a huge problem! :-S
I personally don't think The Hero was pitched. Freddie just really could sing that high.
And what to think of In My Defence?!? There are some reeaaally high notes in there, also non-falset! And than also considering that the vocaltrack on In My Defence was a first take! :-|
But notice: during live-performances, even Freddie himself could not copy his "album-voice".
The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
On stage, even Freddie could not do the high vocals as on the studioversion of AOBTD.
When I covered AOBTD some months ago, I also sang at the "live-pitch"
The studioversion is MENACE! :-|
But pitching? In the studio? Freddie? Neh.
Don't think so. Working in a studio is my job actually, and pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
Or does anybody else? Because, hey, I'm not always right of course... ;-)
YES, but he sang that one with his falset-voice, and that makes a huge difference.
The Hero and AOBTD are sung with the midrange-voice (don't know how to call it exactly) but Exercises in Free Love is a lot easier to sing than AOBTD!
I sang both, or, must I say, tried both.
EIFL was no problem, AOBTD nearly killed me and was a huge problem! :-S
I personally don't think The Hero was pitched. Freddie just really could sing that high.
And what to think of In My Defence?!? There are some reeaaally high notes in there, also non-falset! And than also considering that the vocaltrack on In My Defence was a first take! :-|
But notice: during live-performances, even Freddie himself could not copy his "album-voice".
The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
On stage, even Freddie could not do the high vocals as on the studioversion of AOBTD.
When I covered AOBTD some months ago, I also sang at the "live-pitch"
The studioversion is MENACE! :-|
But pitching? In the studio? Freddie? Neh.
Don't think so. Working in a studio is my job actually, and pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
Or does anybody else? Because, hey, I'm not always right of course... ;-)
What about that high note in Under Pressure?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What about that high note in Under Pressure? [/QUOTE]
Also very interesting indeed!
That note CAN be done! Though it does require superb voice technique. But hey....we're talking about Freddie here.
Don't know what that guy did in a studio :-|
Maybe people are going to kill me for this, but I *think* Freddie might have used "the white stuff" a looooot in Musicland, Townhouse, Record Plant, Mountain Studio's, etc etc?....
Also very interesting indeed!
That note CAN be done! Though it does require superb voice technique. But hey....we're talking about Freddie here.
Don't know what that guy did in a studio :-|
Maybe people are going to kill me for this, but I *think* Freddie might have used "the white stuff" a looooot in Musicland, Townhouse, Record Plant, Mountain Studio's, etc etc?....
> But notice: during live-performances, even Freddie himself could not copy his "album-voice".
I think Fred was a studio singer rather than a live one. Don't get me wrong, he sounded well live, but in the studio he took it to another level, also when he multi-tracked his own harmonies.
> The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
No, it IS speeded up. They recorded it in Em, then they speeded up the tape half a tone. Still the notes Fred reached were quite high.
> pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
When you raise or lower half a tone the difference isn't so noticeable. When you varispeed a tone or more it does get the chimpunk effect (or the Darth Vader one if you're lowering).
> What about that high note in Under Pressure?
Not pitched, but falsetto. Fred sang the same note in several other songs, like All God's People and Great King Rat.
I think Fred was a studio singer rather than a live one. Don't get me wrong, he sounded well live, but in the studio he took it to another level, also when he multi-tracked his own harmonies.
> The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
No, it IS speeded up. They recorded it in Em, then they speeded up the tape half a tone. Still the notes Fred reached were quite high.
> pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
When you raise or lower half a tone the difference isn't so noticeable. When you varispeed a tone or more it does get the chimpunk effect (or the Darth Vader one if you're lowering).
> What about that high note in Under Pressure?
Not pitched, but falsetto. Fred sang the same note in several other songs, like All God's People and Great King Rat.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Digitube wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen T wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ummmmmm...have you not heard his solo album...particularly Exercises in Free Love? Also, listen to his duet album with Montserrat Caballe...[/QUOTE]
YES, but he sang that one with his falset-voice, and that makes a huge difference.
The Hero and AOBTD are sung with the midrange-voice (don't know how to call it exactly) but Exercises in Free Love is a lot easier to sing than AOBTD!
I sang both, or, must I say, tried both.
EIFL was no problem, AOBTD nearly killed me and was a huge problem! :-S
I personally don't think The Hero was pitched. Freddie just really could sing that high.
And what to think of In My Defence?!? There are some reeaaally high notes in there, also non-falset! And than also considering that the vocaltrack on In My Defence was a first take! :-|
But notice: during live-performances, even Freddie himself could not copy his "album-voice".
The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
On stage, even Freddie could not do the high vocals as on the studioversion of AOBTD.
When I covered AOBTD some months ago, I also sang at the "live-pitch"
The studioversion is MENACE! :-|
But pitching? In the studio? Freddie? Neh.
Don't think so. Working in a studio is my job actually, and pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
Or does anybody else? Because, hey, I'm not always right of course... ;-) [/QUOTE]
Wow! Nice explanation on Freddie's voice, dude. Freddie may have had a raspy, gruff sort of voice in the mid '80s, but hey, even when he was suffering from AIDS he sang at his best while recording "The Miracle" and "Innuendo."
YES, but he sang that one with his falset-voice, and that makes a huge difference.
The Hero and AOBTD are sung with the midrange-voice (don't know how to call it exactly) but Exercises in Free Love is a lot easier to sing than AOBTD!
I sang both, or, must I say, tried both.
EIFL was no problem, AOBTD nearly killed me and was a huge problem! :-S
I personally don't think The Hero was pitched. Freddie just really could sing that high.
And what to think of In My Defence?!? There are some reeaaally high notes in there, also non-falset! And than also considering that the vocaltrack on In My Defence was a first take! :-|
But notice: during live-performances, even Freddie himself could not copy his "album-voice".
The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
On stage, even Freddie could not do the high vocals as on the studioversion of AOBTD.
When I covered AOBTD some months ago, I also sang at the "live-pitch"
The studioversion is MENACE! :-|
But pitching? In the studio? Freddie? Neh.
Don't think so. Working in a studio is my job actually, and pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
Or does anybody else? Because, hey, I'm not always right of course... ;-) [/QUOTE]
Wow! Nice explanation on Freddie's voice, dude. Freddie may have had a raspy, gruff sort of voice in the mid '80s, but hey, even when he was suffering from AIDS he sang at his best while recording "The Miracle" and "Innuendo."
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME] I think Fred was a studio singer rather than a live one. Don't get me wrong, he sounded well live, but in the studio he took it to another level, also when he multi-tracked his own harmonies.[/QUOTE]
I agree. As great a showman as Freddie was, his studio vocals are what really made him something special.
I agree. As great a showman as Freddie was, his studio vocals are what really made him something special.
Oops - double post.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Farlander wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oops - double post.[/QUOTE]
It's okay, many of us do that...even I do, too.
It's okay, many of us do that...even I do, too.
I think Fred was a studio singer rather than a live one. Don't get me wrong, he sounded well live, but in the studio he took it to another level, also when he multi-tracked his own harmonies.
> Yes, I fully agree on that. Of course, in the studio, you can do a certain part over and over again. You can also break the song in different portions, and create 2 or 3 voxtracks, wich can be bounced back to 1 voxtrack. Did that trick myself once or twice ;-)
And yes, Fred's multitracks are BRILL!
> The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
No, it IS speeded up. They recorded it in Em, then they speeded up the tape half a tone. Still the notes Fred reached were quite high.
>Okay, if you say so, I trust you upon having a reliable source to verify that one. I remember a website giving inside info on several queenrecordings, but lost track of that accidently :-(
> pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
When you raise or lower half a tone the difference isn't so noticeable. When you varispeed a tone or more it does get the chimpunk effect (or the Darth Vader one if you're lowering).
> Hmmm. Maybe you're right. I once did varipitch with a tone, and it sounded. I never tried pitching a halftone myself, so I guess you might be right.
> What about that high note in Under Pressure?
Not pitched, but falsetto. Fred sang the same note in several other songs, like All God's People and Great King Rat.
You mean the long "we're" as in " weeeeeeeeee're all God's peopleeee" I presume? Hmmm... Yup. I just listened to it, I agree on that being a falsetto also.
In my opinion, in Under Pressure, Freddie starts off with a non-falsetto, but slowly goes into a falsetto during the note.
Great voice-technique here!
(Don't try that at home folks! :-P)
Sebastian, you also have a musical background? Reading your posts, I do believe you have.
> Yes, I fully agree on that. Of course, in the studio, you can do a certain part over and over again. You can also break the song in different portions, and create 2 or 3 voxtracks, wich can be bounced back to 1 voxtrack. Did that trick myself once or twice ;-)
And yes, Fred's multitracks are BRILL!
> The live-version of AOBTD is indeed half a tone down from the original, but maybe better to say that the studio version is a half tone UP, on that one, The Red is tuned in F, while a guitar always is tuned in E (wich is a half-tone difference, hello, you still there? :-P)
No, it IS speeded up. They recorded it in Em, then they speeded up the tape half a tone. Still the notes Fred reached were quite high.
>Okay, if you say so, I trust you upon having a reliable source to verify that one. I remember a website giving inside info on several queenrecordings, but lost track of that accidently :-(
> pitching makes a very audible difference in the colour of the voice, wich I don't seem to hear in AOBTD.
When you raise or lower half a tone the difference isn't so noticeable. When you varispeed a tone or more it does get the chimpunk effect (or the Darth Vader one if you're lowering).
> Hmmm. Maybe you're right. I once did varipitch with a tone, and it sounded. I never tried pitching a halftone myself, so I guess you might be right.
> What about that high note in Under Pressure?
Not pitched, but falsetto. Fred sang the same note in several other songs, like All God's People and Great King Rat.
You mean the long "we're" as in " weeeeeeeeee're all God's peopleeee" I presume? Hmmm... Yup. I just listened to it, I agree on that being a falsetto also.
In my opinion, in Under Pressure, Freddie starts off with a non-falsetto, but slowly goes into a falsetto during the note.
Great voice-technique here!
(Don't try that at home folks! :-P)
Sebastian, you also have a musical background? Reading your posts, I do believe you have.
Yeah, about the falsetto in Under Pressure. Doesn't it take a lot of skill to smoothly go from your normal voice to falsetto?