John playing the.....Drums???

Go to youtube.com and look for One Vision extended version. I was asked to remove my link, so I did, not wanting to start any fights.

Um, anyhoo at about 2 47/8 for about a second you see John playing drums, or at least I THINK it's john. Looks like him anyway. WEIRD man.

Question: IN THE "ONE VISION" VIDEO YOU WERE SEEN PLAYING DRUMS - HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING DRUMS?

John's Answer: I CAN ONLY PLAY A VERY SIMPLE PATTERN AND HIT THE CYMBALS!

THIS IS OFFICIAL - PLEASE REMOVE THE LINK

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=817460

Queenzone is not my home, I am as much a guest here as anyone else.
As a guest, I just wondered what was the actual concensus of opinion in the house, and am I really a minority of one?

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q_FORUM_ID=10&Q_FORUM_NAME=Queen+General+Discussion&TOPIC_SUBJECT=Calling+All+Girls+vid...+lmao&Q=810441&page=3


Asterik wrote:

John S Stuart wrote:

...NO OFFICIAL DOWNLOADS. SO REMOVE THE F*CKING LINKS!


I suggest you calm down sir, before some of us find your policeman act a little nauseating.



If we all played to the rules of the site - there would be no need to act like a policeman.

Which leads me to my next question, why is it that those who seek to improve the site, and keep it functioning for the good of all queen fans are seen as the enemy - while those who would upload/download for short-term personal gain, viewed as some sort of heroic figures?

So gauging opinion - is it really me that is out of step with Queenzone (in which case, I will keep my mouth closed in future), or as a community (in the absence of self-control) do we still need 'police-men' type figures?

If the latter is true, why can't links to official material be deleted by some sort of moderation (I am not advocating censorship - just deleting links to official product) - and repeat offenders banned?

(For example, despite of all our previous warnings and efforts, this link was still posted this very afternoon: http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=817453)

I know this is a sorry state of affairs, but, this problem seems to have recently mushroomed out-of-control, and I know for a fact, - especially since the 'plundering' of 'Marie's The Name (Of His Latest Flame)', - that the 'powers that be' are not too happy with our site, and would have us shut-down in a heart-beat.

I for one, would be sad to see the demise of Queenzone, but if we are closed down because of our own greed and stupidity, then part of me sides with QPL in that it 'serves the b*ggers right!'

What are your views?

chill, theyre not downloads, just watching... Youtube is waaaaayyyy more likely to get shut down then QZ

johnnie is playing them at 4:17 aswell, odd..

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]WhatMustHeThink wrote: [/QUOTENAME]chill, theyre not downloads, just watching... Youtube is waaaaayyyy more likely to get shut down then QZ

johnnie is playing them at 4:17 aswell, odd..

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WhatMustHeThink: Please remove YOUR link. That is not too difficult to do - is it?
It is also a breach of one of the fundamental Queenzone rules.
Why do you feel the need to so blatantly disregard these requests?

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]WhatMustHeThink wrote: [/QUOTENAME]chill, theyre not downloads, just watching... Youtube is waaaaayyyy more likely to get shut down then QZ

johnnie is playing them at 4:17 aswell, odd..

[/QUOTE]

WhatMustHeThink: Please remove YOUR link. That is not too difficult to do - is it?
It is also a breach of one of the fundamental Queenzone rules.
Why do you feel the need to so blatantly disregard these requests?[/QUOTE]

Ok, FINE. I dont want to start anything

Thank you.

A kind of Magic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w7pdSaP6hQ

The show Must Go On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0pf40BfJY4

Innuendo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-HyGmpnQA

Bicycle race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XkrWBLZMwA

I want it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0f

Fat Bottomed Girls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmVoq4twruM

I'm going slightly Mad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVoRTQy2hWA

I want to break free

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrqrC82Km0A

Under Pressure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktt0TU4-H4w

Who wants to live forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p-yIvI9qzg


And oh no my god, Hollywood Records themselfes (!) place Bohemian Rhapsody to be shared on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTG_RKzwvA

(do you think they know that the already mentioned video's above are also on YourTube.... I gues they do )


Stefan

PS John, sorry to be a pain in the ass, but let's not make so much fuss about it, and enjoy YouTube when it's still around (until someone from Queenzone/Queen Productions might sue them and shut them down)... But I gues since Hollywood Records has uploaded Boh Rhap (and this was done by them after the American Idol show) we should assume that any crappy (!!!) quality video from YouTube is encouraged by the management of Queen or its affiliates

PS Or am I completely wrong?

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]TRS-Romania wrote: [/QUOTENAME]A kind of Magic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w7pdSaP6hQ

The show Must Go On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0pf40BfJY4

Innuendo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-HyGmpnQA

Bicycle race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XkrWBLZMwA

I want it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0f

Fat Bottomed Girls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmVoq4twruM

I'm going slightly Mad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVoRTQy2hWA

I want to break free

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrqrC82Km0A

Under Pressure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktt0TU4-H4w

Who wants to live forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p-yIvI9qzg


And oh no my god, Hollywood Records themselfes (!) place Bohemian Rhapsody to be shared on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTG_RKzwvA

(do you think they know that the already mentioned video's above are also on YourTube.... I gues they do )


Stefan

PS sorry to be a pain in the ass, but read the privacy policy of YouTube

"The content on the YouTube Website, except all User Submissions (as defined below), including without limitation, the text, software, scripts, graphics, photos, sounds, music, videos, interactive features and the like ("Content") and the trademarks, service marks and logos contained therein ("Marks"), are owned by or licensed to YouTube, subject to copyright and other intellectual property rights under United States and foreign laws and international conventions. Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be used, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners. YouTube reserves all rights not expressly granted in and to the Website and the Content. You agree to not engage in the use, copying, or distribution of any of the Content other than expressly permitted herein, including any use, copying, ordistribution of User Submissions of third parties obtained through the Website for any commercial purposes. If you download or print a copy of the Content for personal use, you must retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained therein. You agree not to circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with security related features of the YouTube Website or features that prevent or restrict use or copying of any Content or enforce limitations on use of the YouTube Website or the Content therein"

And if you disagree complain at YouTube and not at Queenzone. To link a song which is on a "common" website is not wrong or illegal (depending on the country you are in)

So let's not make so much fuss about it, and enjoy YouTube when it's still around (until someone from Queenzone might sue them and shut them down)

just my humble input ;-)




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That was my point, but I didnt want to get into it....theres a million more official Queen videos there..

not to cause any trouble or to upset anybody

but here is One Vision (extended remix) on YouTube (on courtesty of a good friend of mine at Hollywood Records)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWBOdZbDMY

It's stupid.

Dear John,

Without insulting or annoying you, you might want to read this as well
http://news.com.com/Service+lets+people+rip+videos+from+YouTube%2C+other+sites/2100-1025_3-6083555.html?tag=nefd.pop


"Two services run by two people in Australia are giving people new ways to access and use video content from sites like YouTube and Google Video, and copyright holders may well find themselves up in arms about it.

Known as Peekvid and Keepvid, the sister services are designed, respectively, to aggregate and index copyrighted YouTube content, and allow users to rip content from YouTube, Google Video and other services to their hard drives.

Thus, though YouTube prohibits anyone except legitimate rights holders--such as NBC Universal, EMI Records and many others--from uploading copyrighted content to its site, such content does get posted illegally, and these sister services make it possible to easily view, and download, a wide variety of such content. A recent survey turned up clips including World Cup highlights, Beatles and 2Pac Shakur music videos, episodes of "Seinfeld," an episode of "Lost" and dozens of other TV shows and music videos.

"None of the videos on Peekvid are hosted by us," Joshua, one of two people in western Australia who run the service and sister site Keepvid, said in an instant message interview. "We do not condone uploading of copyright(ed) material by illegitimate copyright holders. Peekvid is simply a more organized index of some of YouTube's videos."

Yet, Joshua, who wouldn't give his last name, also argued that without unauthorized copyrighted content, YouTube would not be a household name.

"If YouTube had no copyright(ed) content whatsoever," he said, "I cannot really see it being the big player in video hosting that it is."

And he suggested that by indexing YouTube content and therefore making it easy to track down specific TV shows or music videos, Peekvid is actually giving rights holders a way to fight back against unauthorized copying of their content.

"All of our content is user-submitted, and if the copyright holders wish to have their content removed, they can contact YouTube directly," Joshua said. "We are just one site, out of many sites, that index YouTube content...It is also easier for copyright holders to track down any of their content that appears on YouTube."

Just pointing the way
For its part, YouTube sees Peekvid as an annoyance, but not as a service that is directly breaking any rules. And that's because the site is not hosting content itself, but rather just providing pointers to content that is hosted on YouTube.

And in fact, YouTube implied that it may well use Peekvid to do just what Joshua had suggested: pinpoint copyrighted content and flag it for removal.

"Peekvid is streaming content by embedding the videos, which they have the right to do," said Julie Supan, YouTube's senior director of marketing. "We're going to review the site to ensure that the videos that they are pointing to that are being streamed are in fact from legitimate rights holders...A lot of these links are going to be dead soon, that's for sure."

Surprisingly, though, Supan did not charge Peekvid with breaking the law. In fact, she volunteered that YouTube bears some of the responsibility for stopping what is made possible by Peekvid and sites like it.

"The way they're streaming the video into their site is not a violation of our terms of service," Supan said. "I think...the onus is on us to continue to educate the users as to what is copyrighted content."

Still, an intellectual-property lawyer familiar with Peekvid thinks the site may well be violating the law.

"It took me about two minutes of looking at Peekvid to determine that what's going on is clearly a violation of (the rights of) the copyright owners of those videos,"

This is silly, deliberately stupidly defiant and provocative.

When Queenzone IS closed. I hope you will all be well-pleased.

All it takes is ONE complaint, but I did my best.

John,

Can you be so kind to comment on the article I posted (above your last post) I would like to hear your opinion and input regarding this

Stefan

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]TRS-Romania wrote: [/QUOTENAME]John,

Can you be so kind to comment on the article I posted (above your last post) I would like to hear your opinion and input regarding this

Stefan[/QUOTE]

I think your old enough to read between the lines.

I also think, as far as I am concerned, I am disappointed in my fellow 'zoners.

What else is there left for me to say?
As far as I am concerned the topic is now closed, and it will be up to others either to fill the void, or permit the deluge to continue.