Sorry but Innuendo is a fantastic album. Way better than Hot Space.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry but Innuendo is a fantastic album. Way better than Hot Space.[/QUOTE]
Please!
Innuendo, while a great song, is no Bohemian Rhapsody.
Hitman? Bijou? Delialah? Headlong? God's People?
This is cheese, plain and simple. I felt sorry for them upon hearing the album from Headlong until Show. When I heard Show, I knew this was it for Freddie and understood why the other songs were so weak compared to other albums/songs.
Please!
Innuendo, while a great song, is no Bohemian Rhapsody.
Hitman? Bijou? Delialah? Headlong? God's People?
This is cheese, plain and simple. I felt sorry for them upon hearing the album from Headlong until Show. When I heard Show, I knew this was it for Freddie and understood why the other songs were so weak compared to other albums/songs.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]radio_what's_new wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Music is for the ears...what is the sense of these discussions?[/QUOTE]
What's the point in being on a message board? What's the point in life? What's the point in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?[/QUOTE]
You are not answering my question..instead of an answer you are returning with silly questions....
What's the point in being on a message board? What's the point in life? What's the point in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?[/QUOTE]
You are not answering my question..instead of an answer you are returning with silly questions....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]radio_what's_new wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You are not answering my question..instead of an answer you are returning with silly questions....
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They are silly answers for a silly question. The point of these threads is to get people talking about the albums, to really appreciate what Queen had done. I know that after reading some of these threads and what people have said, I've thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe so-and-so was right about this track, I'll give it another listen" and, upon doing that, I discovered something that I hadn't heard in years.
Queen's music is meant for the ears, yes, but it's also meant to be talked about. Besides, what fun would it be if all we talked about were hypotheticals like "What if Freddie was a flying horse"? If anything, you should ask your questions there instead of here; at least with these threads, I'm trying to bring about some intelligent conversation to the boards.
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They are silly answers for a silly question. The point of these threads is to get people talking about the albums, to really appreciate what Queen had done. I know that after reading some of these threads and what people have said, I've thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe so-and-so was right about this track, I'll give it another listen" and, upon doing that, I discovered something that I hadn't heard in years.
Queen's music is meant for the ears, yes, but it's also meant to be talked about. Besides, what fun would it be if all we talked about were hypotheticals like "What if Freddie was a flying horse"? If anything, you should ask your questions there instead of here; at least with these threads, I'm trying to bring about some intelligent conversation to the boards.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]radio_what's_new wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You are not answering my question..instead of an answer you are returning with silly questions....
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They are silly answers for a silly question. The point of these threads is to get people talking about the albums, to really appreciate what Queen had done. I know that after reading some of these threads and what people have said, I've thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe so-and-so was right about this track, I'll give it another listen" and, upon doing that, I discovered something that I hadn't heard in years.
Queen's music is meant for the ears, yes, but it's also meant to be talked about. Besides, what fun would it be if all we talked about were hypotheticals like "What if Freddie was a flying horse"? If anything, you should ask your questions there instead of here; at least with these threads, I'm trying to bring about some intelligent conversation to the boards.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your answer.
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They are silly answers for a silly question. The point of these threads is to get people talking about the albums, to really appreciate what Queen had done. I know that after reading some of these threads and what people have said, I've thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe so-and-so was right about this track, I'll give it another listen" and, upon doing that, I discovered something that I hadn't heard in years.
Queen's music is meant for the ears, yes, but it's also meant to be talked about. Besides, what fun would it be if all we talked about were hypotheticals like "What if Freddie was a flying horse"? If anything, you should ask your questions there instead of here; at least with these threads, I'm trying to bring about some intelligent conversation to the boards.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your answer.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]radio_what's_new wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You are not answering my question..instead of an answer you are returning with silly questions....
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They are silly answers for a silly question. The point of these threads is to get people talking about the albums, to really appreciate what Queen had done. I know that after reading some of these threads and what people have said, I've thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe so-and-so was right about this track, I'll give it another listen" and, upon doing that, I discovered something that I hadn't heard in years.[/QUOTE]
Same here. Just re-discovered Dreamers Ball after always considering it to be an average track.
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They are silly answers for a silly question. The point of these threads is to get people talking about the albums, to really appreciate what Queen had done. I know that after reading some of these threads and what people have said, I've thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe so-and-so was right about this track, I'll give it another listen" and, upon doing that, I discovered something that I hadn't heard in years.[/QUOTE]
Same here. Just re-discovered Dreamers Ball after always considering it to be an average track.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
What's the point in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?[/QUOTE]
Why, the jelly, of course. That's NOT a silly question.
Hot Space is the jelly of Queen's 80's albums. Very sweet, with a lot of variety. I tend to think of the 70's albums more like just peanut butter on toast. Now, I love peanut butter on toast, but when you throw in jelly? Wow!
What's the point in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?[/QUOTE]
Why, the jelly, of course. That's NOT a silly question.
Hot Space is the jelly of Queen's 80's albums. Very sweet, with a lot of variety. I tend to think of the 70's albums more like just peanut butter on toast. Now, I love peanut butter on toast, but when you throw in jelly? Wow!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mircrowave! wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
What's the point in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?[/QUOTE]
Why, the jelly, of course. That's NOT a silly question.
Hot Space is the jelly of Queen's 80's albums. Very sweet, with a lot of variety. I tend to think of the 70's albums more like just peanut butter on toast. Now, I love peanut butter on toast, but when you throw in jelly? Wow![/QUOTE]
I couldn't have said it any better, Microwave. Excellent use of a "sandwich" as a demonstration. I, personally, think Hot Space is a well-put together album. Mixing in the different genres of "pop" rock, disco and funk. I like it, personally, for it's energy-boosting songs. Like Back Chat and Action This Day, for example.
What's the point in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?[/QUOTE]
Why, the jelly, of course. That's NOT a silly question.
Hot Space is the jelly of Queen's 80's albums. Very sweet, with a lot of variety. I tend to think of the 70's albums more like just peanut butter on toast. Now, I love peanut butter on toast, but when you throw in jelly? Wow![/QUOTE]
I couldn't have said it any better, Microwave. Excellent use of a "sandwich" as a demonstration. I, personally, think Hot Space is a well-put together album. Mixing in the different genres of "pop" rock, disco and funk. I like it, personally, for it's energy-boosting songs. Like Back Chat and Action This Day, for example.
Microwave, innuendo is easily better than hot space. all gods people, bijou are brilliant songs. I could only imagine how great hot space would have been with better production. I think back chat and cool cat were brilliant, some of the lyrics were silly, but they were meant to be that way. The studio version of action this day was pretty good, but the live version kicked ass. I love the freddie and roger duet at milton keynes.
All Gods People -
These are horrid harmonies. Now I don't listen to Mahalia Jackson everyday, but this is hardly "Gospel", yet that's what they're trying to do. It doesn't work for me with overdubs. Gospel is meant to be layered with real voices. Not the same 3 over and over and over. Plus the strings sound very synthetic. Why not use the real thing if you're going for gospel?
Bijou-
A great lead guitar line. A great vocal. But a complete song? Hardly.
Delilah-
A great idea, but these lyrics just are too fuity for me. Now Freddie's mad because his cat "peed". Quite a long way from the brilliant cheeky lyrics he wrote prior to. The only thing that saves this song is the guitar.
Headlong-
Where are the balls on this song? They're there for a minute and then HOOP DIDDY DIDDY, they're gone. Sounds like Brian was giving Freddie a song he should have kept for himself. Would HOOP DIDDY DO sound good on One Vision or anything for that matter?
I worked at a US record store when Innuendo came out. I had gone to an import store prior to release and played the Innuendo single in our store. Everyone wanted it. I played the album, and all the employees made fun of it. GNR, Metallica were the rage. This just didn't fit the trend in Rock at the time here. Just one man's opinion.
(Incidentally, this record store was the same one where I got my Hot Spaces out of the cut-out bin!!--- maybe I am the only one!!!)
These are horrid harmonies. Now I don't listen to Mahalia Jackson everyday, but this is hardly "Gospel", yet that's what they're trying to do. It doesn't work for me with overdubs. Gospel is meant to be layered with real voices. Not the same 3 over and over and over. Plus the strings sound very synthetic. Why not use the real thing if you're going for gospel?
Bijou-
A great lead guitar line. A great vocal. But a complete song? Hardly.
Delilah-
A great idea, but these lyrics just are too fuity for me. Now Freddie's mad because his cat "peed". Quite a long way from the brilliant cheeky lyrics he wrote prior to. The only thing that saves this song is the guitar.
Headlong-
Where are the balls on this song? They're there for a minute and then HOOP DIDDY DIDDY, they're gone. Sounds like Brian was giving Freddie a song he should have kept for himself. Would HOOP DIDDY DO sound good on One Vision or anything for that matter?
I worked at a US record store when Innuendo came out. I had gone to an import store prior to release and played the Innuendo single in our store. Everyone wanted it. I played the album, and all the employees made fun of it. GNR, Metallica were the rage. This just didn't fit the trend in Rock at the time here. Just one man's opinion.
(Incidentally, this record store was the same one where I got my Hot Spaces out of the cut-out bin!!--- maybe I am the only one!!!)
Aren't we giving this album a little too much credit? The reason it was shunned is not because it didn't try something new, it was shunned cause rock and roll is better than disco/funk, plain and simple, and one of the greatest rock groups of all time could have been making more classics, but instead they were churning out garbage like Body Language. There's a reason there was only one funk Queen album.
Here are my thoughts. I think Queen's strength was taking a genre and making it their own, whether it be rockabilly, vaudeville or with AOBTD, disco. Hot Space's problem was that the funk wasn't Queen's version of it but a pale imitation. The production is trapped in early eighties synth and drum machine and there is not enough guitar for me. That said, there are good moments, las Parablas de AMor and Life is Real are excellent ballads but there is a lack of consistency.
There really isn’t much to discuss about “Hot space”. Take away “Under pressure” which was a single and your left with a crappy disco/funk album. All the songs are week by anybody’s standards. It lakes vision, imagination and sonic quality. Something Queen always delivered on their previous releases. Most of the songs sound flat and uninspired. I would even go as far and put this offering in the top ten all time worst albums. It’s sad that Queen never fully recovered after this disaster until “Innuendo”.
It seems to me that those who believe this is Queen's best album, or that person's favorite also believe these bands best albums are the following:
Yes - Drama
Led Zeppelin - Coda
Ac/Dc - Fly on the Wall
Sparks - Interior Designs
Pink Foyd - Final Cut
Doors - Other Voices
not that theres anything wrong with that
Yes - Drama
Led Zeppelin - Coda
Ac/Dc - Fly on the Wall
Sparks - Interior Designs
Pink Foyd - Final Cut
Doors - Other Voices
not that theres anything wrong with that
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Asterik wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Here are my thoughts. I think Queen's strength was taking a genre and making it their own, whether it be rockabilly, vaudeville or with AOBTD, disco. Hot Space's problem was that the funk wasn't Queen's version of it but a pale imitation.[/QUOTE]
That's a very interesting thought, I think you hit the nail on the head here. And what you say about lack of consistency is also very true. Maybe it was because the band as a whole was not behind it - mainly Roger and Brian did not like the album for obvious reasons. It's not a real group effort.
That's a very interesting thought, I think you hit the nail on the head here. And what you say about lack of consistency is also very true. Maybe it was because the band as a whole was not behind it - mainly Roger and Brian did not like the album for obvious reasons. It's not a real group effort.