Brian wrote a bit about how bad myspace is, in his soap box.
I have my opinion written, for my blog, and post it here as well, to see how you are with it
my comments at brian mays' attack to myspace
Holy cow.
I think that Brian is overdoing the things very much!
This is what I read in the soapbox, and I DO want to put some comments in it. And I think it is fair to do it in myspace, so that the people involved can react.
Also, a personal reaction, how I see the things. It is fair that all the sides of this problem are seen, not only the one side of (a few) people that are shocked by things that just are happening.
Mind, I NEVER shall accept that people pretend to be others, and that in that way they try to convince others. But, considering I am NOT Saturn, but that it is my nickname, I think that it is fine to have my own name here. People know that it is just a nickname, and in fact it is not hurting anyone as long as you are not a pretender and use the name in a bad way!
A theft of identity should not be mixed up with using a name. When one pretends to be someone else, sooner or later that person will get catched, and that is good. The sooner the better. But taking a name, what is not used by the originator, is that a crime? Especially when the one with the name has wonderful places to express and tell the world that he NEVER uses that identity in this community?
The 'problem' with myspace is not the users, but some individuals that do not understand the full topic on myspace, I think.
Why all the fuzz? When persons like brian may and paul stanley feel offended by individuals at myspace, then it is fair to contact those individuals, and to inform the hosting (as in myspace) about what you found out. I think that a huge organisation as myspace is only happy with the fact that imposters or bad usuers are spotted. That's realy fine.
I think it is fair to get the 'bad people' off, and I think it is also fair to let the 'good users' in peace.
There are so many wonderful people at myspace, and I realy think it is arrogant from one (or a few) individuals that feel persoanlly attackecd, to take up the gun and 'hope' that the entire community will get stopped.
Most of the users of myspace do have a healthy attitude. And most of the users of the internet know that all what they write down can be read by everyone else. Most of the internet users consider that before, and they fight out private frustrations where it belongs. Of course it is good that imposters are announced in public, you cant be carefully enough in that, but as written above, there are very good ways to get to the persons themselves, instead of sueing an entire community!
Just fight the bad needles and let the great majority have their fun.
I hope that myspace will have a long life. And that the owners do take good care about the people that try to spoil it, such as 'name takers' and unhealthy persons (as in porn or children-prostitution). It is better to fight the few people who spoil it for the rest, then to fight a too big institute, what only will cause that there will be new places where those sick people can dive under.
I go to copy this essay. I dont want to get it lost. I think that the world, anyway MY space, deserves this view of the things as well
And your comments are (more then) welcome!
(you can read brians' comments in Brian Mays' soap box (scroll down to August 25th)
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He goes n does all that complaing then in the new section theres a huge plug for a myspace bandmember of his.It seems Myspace is acceptable on certain terms.
This "pretending" kills the trust between people.
I understand Brian May's frustration completely. Apparently he asked Myspace to remove the imposter and it did not happen - instead he was asked to provide for personal data etc to prove his own identity. He is not Tom, Dick or Harry - he is a huge star and he is rightly annoyed when some internet freak assumes his identity. I would be just as annoyed in his place. The abuse within the internet - spam, trolls, stalkers, phishing, trojans, viruses and other crap we have to face each day can really totally spoil the fun and the possibilities the internet provides. I am with Brian here - he worked hard for his name and if Myspace refuses to protect him from some imposter I understand his anger.
Plus, he is right about the danger many users - mainly minors - put themselves in by not protecting their privacy.
Plus, he is right about the danger many users - mainly minors - put themselves in by not protecting their privacy.
Brian May is upset because MySpace didn't do what he asked?
I'm tired of Rock Stars thinking they deserve the royal treatment. (No Pun intended!!!) MySpace has the right to do whatever they want. Just as much as I have the right to CLAIM I am John Deacon's cousin's ex-wife's lover.
Sorry someone parked in your parking spot, Dr. May. We'll call a wrecker immediately.
Here's an idea for Brian and his drama club....
1. Recognize that people are always going to try this stuff... you're a celebrity now and have been one for quite some time.
2. Recognize that all those internet predator news stories seem to all be tied to MySpace.com
3. Release the following statement:
"With all the negative publicity concerning MySpace.com, I have decided NOT to affiliate myself or the good Queen name with their company. We wish them all the best, but want to assure our younger fans that we are concerned with the state of the non-security the internet has given us."
4. Quit whining and write some new music.
Respect.
I'm tired of Rock Stars thinking they deserve the royal treatment. (No Pun intended!!!) MySpace has the right to do whatever they want. Just as much as I have the right to CLAIM I am John Deacon's cousin's ex-wife's lover.
Sorry someone parked in your parking spot, Dr. May. We'll call a wrecker immediately.
Here's an idea for Brian and his drama club....
1. Recognize that people are always going to try this stuff... you're a celebrity now and have been one for quite some time.
2. Recognize that all those internet predator news stories seem to all be tied to MySpace.com
3. Release the following statement:
"With all the negative publicity concerning MySpace.com, I have decided NOT to affiliate myself or the good Queen name with their company. We wish them all the best, but want to assure our younger fans that we are concerned with the state of the non-security the internet has given us."
4. Quit whining and write some new music.
Respect.
I think it is a bit 'out of the world' to think that you can stop pretenders with attacking a complete community. As I wrote it is good to stop the imposters (I hope that is the right word), but it is not fair to generalize in this.
I think it is out of proportions to let everyone 'suffer' from the stupidity of a few one. In that case a lot of communities (including queenzone) could have been closed for a long time already.
I think it is out of proportions to let everyone 'suffer' from the stupidity of a few one. In that case a lot of communities (including queenzone) could have been closed for a long time already.
I'm 100% with Brian on this one. I think he's in his right to react this way.
We have a similar, danish version of myspace - it's freaky! I don't have a profile there, and I'm not intending to, as people there are insane o_O
Girls having bets about who can sleep with most men/boys from that site, without even knowing them! I mean, come on! That's gross!
As I said - I'm with Brian ;o)
We have a similar, danish version of myspace - it's freaky! I don't have a profile there, and I'm not intending to, as people there are insane o_O
Girls having bets about who can sleep with most men/boys from that site, without even knowing them! I mean, come on! That's gross!
As I said - I'm with Brian ;o)
Hans, if you read Brian's comments - he did not attack the users of Myspace. He complains that he has to REGISTER if he wants the website to remove the fake Brian May site which is in fact a joke. Probably it would be healthier for him to just ignore it but he does not ignore it and it is his right to ask these people to remove the imposter WITHOUT being asked to join the "community".
Microwave, I don't think that this is asking for "Royal treatment". After all, nobody would want to fake you or me on myspace. It's something that only happens to famous people.
Microwave, I don't think that this is asking for "Royal treatment". After all, nobody would want to fake you or me on myspace. It's something that only happens to famous people.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I understand Brian May's frustration completely. Apparently he asked Myspace to remove the imposter and it did not happen - instead he was asked to provide for personal data etc to prove his own identity. He is not Tom, Dick or Harry - he is a huge star and he is rightly annoyed when some internet freak assumes his identity. I would be just as annoyed in his place. The abuse within the internet - spam, trolls, stalkers, phishing, trojans, viruses and other crap we have to face each day can really totally spoil the fun and the possibilities the internet provides. I am with Brian here - he worked hard for his name and if Myspace refuses to protect him from some imposter I understand his anger.
Plus, he is right about the danger many users - mainly minors - put themselves in by not protecting their privacy.
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YOU'RE 100% RIGHT THERE. I agree totally with everything you said. I would be the exact same. I've said it before and I'll say it again. He doesn't deserve this shit on him. I'm 100% with Brian.
Plus, he is right about the danger many users - mainly minors - put themselves in by not protecting their privacy.
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YOU'RE 100% RIGHT THERE. I agree totally with everything you said. I would be the exact same. I've said it before and I'll say it again. He doesn't deserve this shit on him. I'm 100% with Brian.
I can understand brians' frustrations, and of course a place is dangerous when people do reveal too much private information. I think that that is a problem from the internet in general.
I read what he wrote, and his wish to get myspace close is a thing that he should not say.
I understand his frustrations and that he gets a bad name, well, if someone has help from people at the internet, to get his name cleared, then it is brian, so I dont think that he should make it such a big item and indeed, he should return into the studio and let the cleaning up to his wonderful assistents, who can do that job perfectly
I read what he wrote, and his wish to get myspace close is a thing that he should not say.
I understand his frustrations and that he gets a bad name, well, if someone has help from people at the internet, to get his name cleared, then it is brian, so I dont think that he should make it such a big item and indeed, he should return into the studio and let the cleaning up to his wonderful assistents, who can do that job perfectly
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Microwave, I don't think that this is asking for "Royal treatment". After all, nobody would want to fake you or me on myspace. It's something that only happens to famous people. [/QUOTE]
Yes, but that's a price you pay for being famous. Unless the culprit is breaking some sort of copywright infringement or committing a criminal act, nobody should expect a PRIVATE COMPANY to do what they say immediately. Would you delete John S Stuart just because I said that was my name and I'm a famous piccolo player from Peru with a website and I wanted his user name?
(Please don't delete John, I was just using as an example)
Attack MySpace.com for what it harbors, not just because you got your feathers ruffled, Bri. Seems a bit selfish.
Microwave, I don't think that this is asking for "Royal treatment". After all, nobody would want to fake you or me on myspace. It's something that only happens to famous people. [/QUOTE]
Yes, but that's a price you pay for being famous. Unless the culprit is breaking some sort of copywright infringement or committing a criminal act, nobody should expect a PRIVATE COMPANY to do what they say immediately. Would you delete John S Stuart just because I said that was my name and I'm a famous piccolo player from Peru with a website and I wanted his user name?
(Please don't delete John, I was just using as an example)
Attack MySpace.com for what it harbors, not just because you got your feathers ruffled, Bri. Seems a bit selfish.
Tons of famous people/rock stars have fake myspaces but most of them include 'I'm not the real ___, and I do not know him/her personally' so I guess Brian is right for getting so upset about it
He should C-H-I-L-L-E-A-X... BIG TIME!
what is everyone talking about? the profile was deleted almost as soon as he started complaining about it(without him having to register!)! so...??
myspace is just a tool, like the internet. EXACTLY like the internet. most people just use it for blogging, chatting, keeping in touch with friends and the like. so i agree with everyone who's saying that you shouldn't bash the whole idea because of some idiots, unless you're gonna say the internet should go, too. if you get rid of myspace, they'll just go make their own website, and those of us who just use it for blogging will go get a xanga or something.
it's not like myspace is really in any danger of going away. his argument isn't really strong enough. anyway, he probably wrote that while he was really pissed, and overstated himself.
myspace is just a tool, like the internet. EXACTLY like the internet. most people just use it for blogging, chatting, keeping in touch with friends and the like. so i agree with everyone who's saying that you shouldn't bash the whole idea because of some idiots, unless you're gonna say the internet should go, too. if you get rid of myspace, they'll just go make their own website, and those of us who just use it for blogging will go get a xanga or something.
it's not like myspace is really in any danger of going away. his argument isn't really strong enough. anyway, he probably wrote that while he was really pissed, and overstated himself.
I think Brian is totally justified to his opinion and his reaction to the MySpace situation. To me, this MySpace thing is creepy. I would not trust anyone on it. You can make everything up, pretend to be someone you are not (which is what happened in Brian's case)and cause a lot of harm. Again, I don't blame Brian at all for his reaction.