I did post this a little while back (http://tinyurl.com/gpzhr), but no-one seemed to notice, or perhaps care.
But, yeah. I have it on very good authority that we won't be seeing the proposed Singles Boxset until probably 2008. As I said in the other post, it was initially put back to spring 2007, before more recently being shelved for a more indefinite period.
I have no information as to why this is the case. I just know that it is. Which sucks arse.
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Sorry to say but that's not news to us. Greg Brooks told a year ago that the box sets will not see the light of day until 2009. Maybe later.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]akindofmagic wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry to say but that's not news to us. Greg Brooks told a year ago that the box sets will not see the light of day until 2009. Maybe later.[/QUOTE]
Wrong box sets. I believe GB was referring to the near-mythical box sets that have been promised since 2000. News of this singles set came out of nowhere earlier this Spring.
As for the news of 2008, can't say I am surprised nor exactly upset, especially if rumors of a Q+PR album come to fruition. Personally, this singles set sounds like a great project, but if QP can manage to release some interesting product, I'll still be happy. For me, QP could release a DVD set, whether live or GVH3, and I'd be content for a little while longer.
If QP could *just* release something interesting (ie 70s live show, BBC sessions), most of us would forget about long-overdue promises and collections. It's these blatant re-hashes that become irritating.
Wrong box sets. I believe GB was referring to the near-mythical box sets that have been promised since 2000. News of this singles set came out of nowhere earlier this Spring.
As for the news of 2008, can't say I am surprised nor exactly upset, especially if rumors of a Q+PR album come to fruition. Personally, this singles set sounds like a great project, but if QP can manage to release some interesting product, I'll still be happy. For me, QP could release a DVD set, whether live or GVH3, and I'd be content for a little while longer.
If QP could *just* release something interesting (ie 70s live show, BBC sessions), most of us would forget about long-overdue promises and collections. It's these blatant re-hashes that become irritating.
This is new to me. I never heard that the singles Box-set was canceled for this year.
Where did you guys heard that?
Take care
Where did you guys heard that?
Take care
Zeni's right, akindofmagic. I'm talking about the boxset release that's to contain every song, and every version of every song that has ever been released on a single anywhere in the world. Not the 'full' boxset of rarities that's been promised to us for years upon years.
This singles set had been confirmed as being released for this Christmas, and for me seemed like the most interesting Queen-related release since the Freddie boxset.
I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.
But that aside, new 'interesting' product would offset somewhat the disappointment of this set not being released. But as this set was pretty much at the production (manufacture and pressing) stage when it was shelved, I find it hard to see why any other product would precede its release. Except for a shitty Q+PR album...
This singles set had been confirmed as being released for this Christmas, and for me seemed like the most interesting Queen-related release since the Freddie boxset.
I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.
But that aside, new 'interesting' product would offset somewhat the disappointment of this set not being released. But as this set was pretty much at the production (manufacture and pressing) stage when it was shelved, I find it hard to see why any other product would precede its release. Except for a shitty Q+PR album...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bobby_brown wrote: [/QUOTENAME]This is new to me. I never heard that the singles Box-set was canceled for this year.
Where did you guys heard that?[/QUOTE]
Queenonline
http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=35328&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
"Kes: I'll answer key points of the above post with bulletpoints as other methods obviously aren't working.
1). The Anthology boxsets are going to be bookend products. By "bookend" it's meant, "after" Brian and Roger walk away from Queen. This then means the Anthologies are most likely "shelved" until they (Brian and Roger) stop being involved with the product.
2). The singles box "might" not be the "next" thing in the pipeline. "That" could be another retro live concert, or maybe something else. However, the singles box is there, like other things, waiting.
3). "They" are selling merchantable produce to the record buying public. Fans, per se, buy only about 5%-10% of the merchantable produce that is sold. Put your business head on, and tell us what you'd do, if you were them, or the record company? Whatever the "fans" buy, they buy of their own free choice, no guns to the backs of the head enter the equation".
Edit: Here endeth quotation - as depicted by the use of the above (") quotation (") marks.
Where did you guys heard that?[/QUOTE]
Queenonline
http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=35328&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
"Kes: I'll answer key points of the above post with bulletpoints as other methods obviously aren't working.
1). The Anthology boxsets are going to be bookend products. By "bookend" it's meant, "after" Brian and Roger walk away from Queen. This then means the Anthologies are most likely "shelved" until they (Brian and Roger) stop being involved with the product.
2). The singles box "might" not be the "next" thing in the pipeline. "That" could be another retro live concert, or maybe something else. However, the singles box is there, like other things, waiting.
3). "They" are selling merchantable produce to the record buying public. Fans, per se, buy only about 5%-10% of the merchantable produce that is sold. Put your business head on, and tell us what you'd do, if you were them, or the record company? Whatever the "fans" buy, they buy of their own free choice, no guns to the backs of the head enter the equation".
Edit: Here endeth quotation - as depicted by the use of the above (") quotation (") marks.
get over it stuart hes got u beat,,,,,,,,,,,,
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: 3). "They" are selling merchantable produce to the record buying public. Fans, per se, buy only about 5%-10% of the merchantable produce that is sold. Put your business head on, and tell us what you'd do, if you were them, or the record company? Whatever the "fans" buy, they buy of their own free choice, no guns to the backs of the head enter the equation.[/QUOTE]
I do not understand why the record companies can not keep both the fans and the general public happy. It is bad enough that Queen Productions ignore fans, but QP seems to enjoy rubbing salt in the wounds by endlessly giving empty promises as well as an obnoxious spokesman/archivist.
Will QP bypass the x-mas season without releasing anything? ... or will QP rest on their laurels and be satisfied with the rehashed Freddie stuff released 4 months before x-mas?
I do not understand why the record companies can not keep both the fans and the general public happy. It is bad enough that Queen Productions ignore fans, but QP seems to enjoy rubbing salt in the wounds by endlessly giving empty promises as well as an obnoxious spokesman/archivist.
Will QP bypass the x-mas season without releasing anything? ... or will QP rest on their laurels and be satisfied with the rehashed Freddie stuff released 4 months before x-mas?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]newcastle 86 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]get over it stuart hes got u beat,,,,,,,,,,,,[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bohardy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.
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All things being equal, I would agree with you. If this were a buffet line of Queen products, I'd certainly take more from the Singles cart than the Q+PR table.
But to me, a Q+PR album signifies something new and ongoing, as opposed to yet another Greatest Hits release. I realize that QP is a company with profits to consider and, as a result, they wouldn't dare "flood the market" with releases. Give me something new and interesting, and a lot of the anger would go away.
I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.
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All things being equal, I would agree with you. If this were a buffet line of Queen products, I'd certainly take more from the Singles cart than the Q+PR table.
But to me, a Q+PR album signifies something new and ongoing, as opposed to yet another Greatest Hits release. I realize that QP is a company with profits to consider and, as a result, they wouldn't dare "flood the market" with releases. Give me something new and interesting, and a lot of the anger would go away.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bohardy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Zeni's right, akindofmagic. I'm talking about the boxset release that's to contain every song, and every version of every song that has ever been released on a single anywhere in the world. Not the 'full' boxset of rarities that's been promised to us for years upon years.
This singles set had been confirmed as being released for this Christmas, and for me seemed like the most interesting Queen-related release since the Freddie boxset.
I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.
But that aside, new 'interesting' product would offset somewhat the disappointment of this set not being released. But as this set was pretty much at the production (manufacture and pressing) stage when it was shelved, I find it hard to see why any other product would precede its release. Except for a shitty Q+PR album...[/QUOTE]
Yep, you're right. i didn't see the «singles» word on your statement.
This singles set had been confirmed as being released for this Christmas, and for me seemed like the most interesting Queen-related release since the Freddie boxset.
I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.
But that aside, new 'interesting' product would offset somewhat the disappointment of this set not being released. But as this set was pretty much at the production (manufacture and pressing) stage when it was shelved, I find it hard to see why any other product would precede its release. Except for a shitty Q+PR album...[/QUOTE]
Yep, you're right. i didn't see the «singles» word on your statement.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zeni wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME][/QUOTENAME]
I realize that QP is a company with profits to consider and, as a result, they wouldn't dare "flood the market" with releases.[/QUOTE]
I would think that a rehash release could be put out the same year as a fan release without risking flooding the market.
Does QP think that throwing the fans an occasional bone will compromise the box set?
I realize that QP is a company with profits to consider and, as a result, they wouldn't dare "flood the market" with releases.[/QUOTE]
I would think that a rehash release could be put out the same year as a fan release without risking flooding the market.
Does QP think that throwing the fans an occasional bone will compromise the box set?
I'd rather have some new video releases than having this shit with Q+PR's going on
I want the real Queen. Q+PR isn't, its nothing but two FORMER (Queen) members and some other singer
I say Q+PR is to blame for this excruciating delay of new material, box sets, etc.
I want the real Queen. Q+PR isn't, its nothing but two FORMER (Queen) members and some other singer
I say Q+PR is to blame for this excruciating delay of new material, box sets, etc.
Maybe they cancelled the singles' box-set because Greg felt bad that people in QZ weren't willing to do his job of finding worldwide #1 hits.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mike Van wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Does QP think that throwing the fans an occasional bone will compromise the box set?[/QUOTE]
Here's what I think:
1- There is a finite amount of material that can be released. Whether that is 5 products or 500, we simply don't know. Regardless, QP has to have an idea of how they want to deal with this stuff.
2- Queen has always been controlling when it comes to their material, especially over the music. As much as I'd love several high-quality concerts on CD or DVD (notice I did not say limited internet release in 128K), I can't imagine Brian approving it unless it was up to his high standards. This, in my view, limits what we can expect them to release.
If there is a finite amount of material with rigid standards to be approved, I simply can't picture QP opening the floodgates when re-hashes still manage to come in at #2 in the UK music charts.
Does QP think that throwing the fans an occasional bone will compromise the box set?[/QUOTE]
Here's what I think:
1- There is a finite amount of material that can be released. Whether that is 5 products or 500, we simply don't know. Regardless, QP has to have an idea of how they want to deal with this stuff.
2- Queen has always been controlling when it comes to their material, especially over the music. As much as I'd love several high-quality concerts on CD or DVD (notice I did not say limited internet release in 128K), I can't imagine Brian approving it unless it was up to his high standards. This, in my view, limits what we can expect them to release.
If there is a finite amount of material with rigid standards to be approved, I simply can't picture QP opening the floodgates when re-hashes still manage to come in at #2 in the UK music charts.