[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]In the recent ANATO docu, Roy said that the piano was in one section of the room and the drums were behind a separated part of the same room. Also, the piano had a carpet thrown over the top to further help separation from the drums. And they even demonstrated that you can still hear the drums over the piano mics, very slightly.[/QUOTE]
Which version of the ANATO documentary was this? I know there were two or three, and I can never get this straight![/QUOTE]
Oh... just back today. I'll try and find that out. Yes, there are three bloomin docu's to look at! But actually, it may be one of the newer ones.
Like the turn this thread is taking. Great to see some interesting talk about the stuff they'd do to get the sounds, etc. And yes, the MD421 is a great mic for guitar amp recordings. Unfortunately, I don't have any - booo...
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The documentary in question is Story of Bohemian Rhapsody - I remember it well, as I had to join Queenzone in order to download it :D
Funny how, in the first half of their career, I don't think Queen (or, more specifically Brian) were big on reverb at all, when it came to guitars anyway. The guitar tracks weren't totally 'dry' as such; they did have a slight room sound to them. But that was usually it.
Then you look at latter day tracks like Invisible Man, Don't Try So Hard or These Are The Days of Our Lives, which have a lot of added echo on 'em. I wonder what changed their minds?
Funny how, in the first half of their career, I don't think Queen (or, more specifically Brian) were big on reverb at all, when it came to guitars anyway. The guitar tracks weren't totally 'dry' as such; they did have a slight room sound to them. But that was usually it.
Then you look at latter day tracks like Invisible Man, Don't Try So Hard or These Are The Days of Our Lives, which have a lot of added echo on 'em. I wonder what changed their minds?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ezee wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Talking about "leakage" listen to the intro of Sweet Lady. They obviously left the Doors open to the drum room cos you can hear the Bass rattling the snare drum. Thats what that fuzzy sound is as the bass plays the intro.
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According to the making of Bohemian Rhapsody program, there was no door to the drum room at the studio at the time!
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According to the making of Bohemian Rhapsody program, there was no door to the drum room at the studio at the time!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Funny how, in the first half of their career, I don't think Queen (or, more specifically Brian) were big on reverb at all, when it came to guitars anyway. The guitar tracks weren't totally 'dry' as such; they did have a slight room sound to them. But that was usually it.
Then you look at latter day tracks like Invisible Man, Don't Try So Hard or These Are The Days of Our Lives, which have a lot of added echo on 'em. I wonder what changed their minds?[/QUOTE]
Mainly that has to do with music trends of the time. The music in the '70s was often very dry, as a matter of style. The '80s saw a resurgence in big, roomy reverbs.
That was the trend of the day.
Funny how, in the first half of their career, I don't think Queen (or, more specifically Brian) were big on reverb at all, when it came to guitars anyway. The guitar tracks weren't totally 'dry' as such; they did have a slight room sound to them. But that was usually it.
Then you look at latter day tracks like Invisible Man, Don't Try So Hard or These Are The Days of Our Lives, which have a lot of added echo on 'em. I wonder what changed their minds?[/QUOTE]
Mainly that has to do with music trends of the time. The music in the '70s was often very dry, as a matter of style. The '80s saw a resurgence in big, roomy reverbs.
That was the trend of the day.
tenchijin2: i believe you are correct on both posts there. You jogged my memory, i recall hearing the same info bout the doors... or lack of!
Rumour has it Roger locked himself into a cupboard and wouldn't come out until they agreed to have I'm In Love With My Car as the B side to Bo Rap, maybe that's why the took the doors off his part of the studio...;-)
On a more serious note, Brian commented in one of the DVD's recently that they were originally told they could get the big drum sound they wanted by adding artificial reverb to it later, however they soon found out that was not the case.
Maybe the doors were removed to help with capturing the natural room feel on the kit.
On a more serious note, Brian commented in one of the DVD's recently that they were originally told they could get the big drum sound they wanted by adding artificial reverb to it later, however they soon found out that was not the case.
Maybe the doors were removed to help with capturing the natural room feel on the kit.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]On a more serious note, Brian commented in one of the DVD's recently that they were originally told they could get the big drum sound they wanted by adding artificial reverb to it later, however they soon found out that was not the case.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's the first album where they were told that.
Adam.
Yeah, that's the first album where they were told that.
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The documentary in question is Story of Bohemian Rhapsody - I remember it well, as I had to join Queenzone in order to download it :D[/QUOTE]
Hehe... cool, thanks for the info.
Just a friendly note: be careful not to mix up the words "reverb" and "echo". Those are a very different things! Reverb is a resonance, whereas echo is something repeating itself.
Hehe... cool, thanks for the info.
Just a friendly note: be careful not to mix up the words "reverb" and "echo". Those are a very different things! Reverb is a resonance, whereas echo is something repeating itself.
If only the Late dearly departed Mike Stone were around :( Maybe we could all have had some answers into the Studio mystery that seems to surround Queen. To my ears and research on people who knew some assistants that were around the making of those albums in the earlier years.. there was nothing particulary special about the microphones or equipment used in those days. Pretty much the same gear that every other band was using to make albums at the time. There was however an incredibly talented bunch of guys working very meticulusly and paying close attention to detail over every single note and beat that was recorded. Over the top production, double, triple, quadruple and beyond!!!.... tracking of Guitar parts and harmonies. They had pretty limited resorces as far as equipment back then.. much like THe Beatles.. so there was alot of "improvisation" Concrete pipes with mics stuck in them for guitar sounds.. Headphones being mic'd up to get a particular sound (Lazing on a Sunday..) Air conditioning units used to make a wind sound.. then run through a phaser or flanger (Prophets song). There is a great book out there now called " Here there and everywhere" By Geoff Emerick. Its not about Queen... but its about Engineer Geoff Emericks recording experiences with The Beatles. Its a great read and all of the techniques and MANY of the mics they used still apply to Queen. For those of you out there who dont know much about the studio or have never recorded on anything other than yer computers... it may make things a little clearer.
Sorry for the long post, i know im ranting.. its frustrating cos there never seems to be any difinitive answers on the Subjet of Queen in the Studio.
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Sorry for the long post, i know im ranting.. its frustrating cos there never seems to be any difinitive answers on the Subjet of Queen in the Studio.
e.
"Just a friendly note: be careful not to mix up the words "reverb" and "echo". Those are a very different things! Reverb is a resonance, whereas echo is something repeating itself."
Indeed! Though in my head, I seem to recall Brian using slight track echos in lieu of reverb quite often. Or if there is reverb, it's slight. Hmm. Time for me to start listening to Queen again! (I've been on a five month Who bender...)
Indeed! Though in my head, I seem to recall Brian using slight track echos in lieu of reverb quite often. Or if there is reverb, it's slight. Hmm. Time for me to start listening to Queen again! (I've been on a five month Who bender...)