Hey.
I'm gonna buy my first guitar, and I have a question...
I found on a brazilian e-shop a kit with a guitar, amp (w/ a pedal to turn on/off the distortion effects) and cables, for a good price. The guitar has a standard tremolo bridge.
But yesterday I found on another shop here in my town some better (I think) stuff.
I can get a guitar, a better amp and a pedal with 7 or 8 different effects. But just the guitar and the amp together will be more expensive than that other kit. The guitar itself costs a bit more than the pedal and the amp. So, it would cost more than twice the kit I saw on the internet.
The kit seems pretty good, and my father apparently thinks it's a good idea to get me that kit for my birthday.
So I was wondering if it would be worth all the headache to convince him to get the stuff I found here in my town instead.
Should I?
Well, and if the answer is "yes", then I have another problem...
There are 2 guitars (for the same price) which I liked, and I dunno which I should go for. One of them is a Les Paul, the other is a guitar with Floyd Rose... The Floyd Rose thing is a big temptation, but can it really do that much for me? Or would it be "dispensable" as I would have a good pedal?
Well, thanks in advance for listening to a newbie. :-P
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There is no way that anybody can advise in the choise between a Les Paul and ANY guitar with a Floyd Rose tremolo.
This ALL depends on what YOU find comfortable to play with. Les Pauls are heavy, raw, big...
Any guitar with a Floyd Rose is light, smooth, slim.
Personally, I dig the light ones...
Have a couple of Ibanez-guitars that I cherish a lot, because they have the perfect balance between raw rythm and singing solo-sound...
Floy Rose tremoloes in general are genius!
YES they will do good for you and it has nothing to do with pedals at all.
Floyd Rose tremolo's are the best in their kind and they make you able to wack the living daylights out of your tremolo-arm without getting out of tune AT ALL!
For space-age guitarists like me, lol, the best invention since the amplifier ;-)
Anyway; all depends on what kind of music you want to play and what kind of guitar you find comfortable.
Play around with both of them for a while and then deside.
Btw... if you want advice on guitars, pedals, amps, it might be handy if you mention some brandnames! Not much advise one can give on 'a' guitar, 'an' amp and 'a' pedal...
A Gibson guitar is good
A Rockson guitar is shit
A Marshal amp is great
A Tiger is shit
etc
This ALL depends on what YOU find comfortable to play with. Les Pauls are heavy, raw, big...
Any guitar with a Floyd Rose is light, smooth, slim.
Personally, I dig the light ones...
Have a couple of Ibanez-guitars that I cherish a lot, because they have the perfect balance between raw rythm and singing solo-sound...
Floy Rose tremoloes in general are genius!
YES they will do good for you and it has nothing to do with pedals at all.
Floyd Rose tremolo's are the best in their kind and they make you able to wack the living daylights out of your tremolo-arm without getting out of tune AT ALL!
For space-age guitarists like me, lol, the best invention since the amplifier ;-)
Anyway; all depends on what kind of music you want to play and what kind of guitar you find comfortable.
Play around with both of them for a while and then deside.
Btw... if you want advice on guitars, pedals, amps, it might be handy if you mention some brandnames! Not much advise one can give on 'a' guitar, 'an' amp and 'a' pedal...
A Gibson guitar is good
A Rockson guitar is shit
A Marshal amp is great
A Tiger is shit
etc
Depends on whether it's a real Les Paul or copy. My advice is to buy the best quality instrument of the two, you can always get more pedals later, the guitar and amp are the most improtant parts. And like above, make sure you feel comforable playing it first, humbukers give very different sounds to single coils so check it out with an eye on what type of music you will play.
If your dad is willing to shell out for a real Les Paul then you are a luck dude!
If your dad is willing to shell out for a real Les Paul then you are a luck dude!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Depends on whether it's a real Les Paul or copy. My advice is to buy the best quality instrument of the two, you can always get more pedals later, the guitar and amp are the most improtant parts. And like above, make sure you feel comforable playing it first, humbukers give very different sounds to single coils so check it out with an eye on what type of music you will play.
If your dad is willing to shell out for a real Les Paul then you are a luck dude![/QUOTE]
Yup, though it indeed depends!
Though I love their sound, I just cannot stand playing a Les Paul! ;-)
If your dad is willing to shell out for a real Les Paul then you are a luck dude![/QUOTE]
Yup, though it indeed depends!
Though I love their sound, I just cannot stand playing a Les Paul! ;-)
Killerking840, nice profile pic!
Good luck in finding your first guitar!
Good luck in finding your first guitar!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey.
I'm gonna buy my first guitar, and I have a question...
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If you're going to buy your first guitar, don't rush and make a mistake of buying some sh*t! Your first guitar don't have to be top notch, but it can't be a poor quality guitar.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey.
I found on a brazilian e-shop a kit with a guitar, amp (w/ a pedal to turn on/off the distortion effects) and cables, for a good price. The guitar has a standard tremolo bridge.
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Usually I don't like kits [I've bought a kit myself and now I've realised that I should have gathered some more money and buy something better]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey.
But yesterday I found on another shop here in my town some better (I think) stuff.
I can get a guitar, a better amp and a pedal with 7 or 8 different effects. But just the guitar and the amp together will be more expensive than that other kit. The guitar itself costs a bit more than the pedal and the amp. So, it would cost more than twice the kit I saw on the internet.
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A pedal is not really a fundamental item, specially for a beginner! You can buy it later!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
There are 2 guitars (for the same price) which I liked, and I dunno which I should go for. One of them is a Les Paul, the other is a guitar with Floyd Rose... The Floyd Rose thing is a big temptation, but can it really do that much for me? Or would it be "dispensable" as I would have a good pedal?
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What is the guitar that have the Floyd Rose sistem?
Floyd Rose is pretty cool and useful for guitarists that use a lot of solos and play instrumental rock songs [Steve Vai, Joe Satriani etc...]
It has great advantages but also some disavantages.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Rose
It's your choice.
If the other guitar is a GIBSON Les Paul, then it's one of the best guitars in the market, but it can be unsuitable for your playing... Once again it's up to you.
I would prefer a Ibanez RG guitar, but that's me :P
I'm gonna buy my first guitar, and I have a question...
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If you're going to buy your first guitar, don't rush and make a mistake of buying some sh*t! Your first guitar don't have to be top notch, but it can't be a poor quality guitar.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey.
I found on a brazilian e-shop a kit with a guitar, amp (w/ a pedal to turn on/off the distortion effects) and cables, for a good price. The guitar has a standard tremolo bridge.
[/QUOTE]
Usually I don't like kits [I've bought a kit myself and now I've realised that I should have gathered some more money and buy something better]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey.
But yesterday I found on another shop here in my town some better (I think) stuff.
I can get a guitar, a better amp and a pedal with 7 or 8 different effects. But just the guitar and the amp together will be more expensive than that other kit. The guitar itself costs a bit more than the pedal and the amp. So, it would cost more than twice the kit I saw on the internet.
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A pedal is not really a fundamental item, specially for a beginner! You can buy it later!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
There are 2 guitars (for the same price) which I liked, and I dunno which I should go for. One of them is a Les Paul, the other is a guitar with Floyd Rose... The Floyd Rose thing is a big temptation, but can it really do that much for me? Or would it be "dispensable" as I would have a good pedal?
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What is the guitar that have the Floyd Rose sistem?
Floyd Rose is pretty cool and useful for guitarists that use a lot of solos and play instrumental rock songs [Steve Vai, Joe Satriani etc...]
It has great advantages but also some disavantages.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Rose
It's your choice.
If the other guitar is a GIBSON Les Paul, then it's one of the best guitars in the market, but it can be unsuitable for your playing... Once again it's up to you.
I would prefer a Ibanez RG guitar, but that's me :P
Go to the store with your teacher and ask him to play both guitars and tell you which one is the best choice.
I would go for the Floyd one, but just because I like fooling around with that kind of things... it's stupid, but it's fun.
I would go for the Floyd one, but just because I like fooling around with that kind of things... it's stupid, but it's fun.
Well, thanks guys.
I'll ask to test both guitars (that shop allows us to test some instruments).
But from what you all have told me, I think I should go for the one with Floyd Rose (I don't remember the brand and model).
Now, I'll just hope my dad will accept to pay twice as much as he would pay on the Internet (Oinkage, I know a beginner might not need a pedal... But it's much easier to convince my dad to buy all the stuff now. He doesn't understand a lot about guitars, so I can just convince him it's something "essential". ;-)
Thanks very much for the advices!
I'll ask to test both guitars (that shop allows us to test some instruments).
But from what you all have told me, I think I should go for the one with Floyd Rose (I don't remember the brand and model).
Now, I'll just hope my dad will accept to pay twice as much as he would pay on the Internet (Oinkage, I know a beginner might not need a pedal... But it's much easier to convince my dad to buy all the stuff now. He doesn't understand a lot about guitars, so I can just convince him it's something "essential". ;-)
Thanks very much for the advices!
Don't get a Marshall amp unless you like the sound of mud.
Nah, I'm only half joking. It depends on what price range you're after. If you're staying cheap like me, don't go with a Marshall because other brands in the same price range have a nicer sound. But I don't know what you're spending, so who knows.
I will say this much; if you're not spending a big amount of money... LANEY TUBE FUSION.
If this is your first guitar... anything goes. My first guitar was a hand-me-down, extremely battered Strat with *one knob* by the time I was finished with it (actually I'm renovating it at the moment).
Seriously, just pick up anything with a straight neck, 24 frets, and a body that feels sorta nice. If you can learn how to play guitar on just any old piece of shit, then you'll be ready to throw away money on something... finer.
Have fun!
Nah, I'm only half joking. It depends on what price range you're after. If you're staying cheap like me, don't go with a Marshall because other brands in the same price range have a nicer sound. But I don't know what you're spending, so who knows.
I will say this much; if you're not spending a big amount of money... LANEY TUBE FUSION.
If this is your first guitar... anything goes. My first guitar was a hand-me-down, extremely battered Strat with *one knob* by the time I was finished with it (actually I'm renovating it at the moment).
Seriously, just pick up anything with a straight neck, 24 frets, and a body that feels sorta nice. If you can learn how to play guitar on just any old piece of shit, then you'll be ready to throw away money on something... finer.
Have fun!
You know Zebonka, I know you! It may seem odd but I'm fairly certain if I remember you right I went to Leederville TAFE and saw you a couple of dozen times. I was back stage when your band/you played the end of We Will Rock You thinking 'Geez, that guy looks like the Jesus pic of Brian May'. So...yeaaaaaah, just thought I should make mention of that.
I happened upon my first guitar at a Salvation Army place. It was a nice classical guitar with 3 working strings. Then I purchased a bass guitar (Ashton, horrible action - got rid of). Bad mistake. I ended up buying myself decent steel string acoustic guitar which lasted me until a couple of months ago when I noticed it had a mother fucker of a crack in the head/neck area. So I decided to purchase a guitar that cost more than a salad at McDonalds and purchased a delicious Art and Lutherie Cedar...variety! I love it! So, so, so rich.
Apart from me giving you a history of my guitar purchases I didn't actually give you any tips. So sorry.
I happened upon my first guitar at a Salvation Army place. It was a nice classical guitar with 3 working strings. Then I purchased a bass guitar (Ashton, horrible action - got rid of). Bad mistake. I ended up buying myself decent steel string acoustic guitar which lasted me until a couple of months ago when I noticed it had a mother fucker of a crack in the head/neck area. So I decided to purchase a guitar that cost more than a salad at McDonalds and purchased a delicious Art and Lutherie Cedar...variety! I love it! So, so, so rich.
Apart from me giving you a history of my guitar purchases I didn't actually give you any tips. So sorry.
1) You get what you pay for. Any guitar that's less than $300 is going to be shit.
2) As it will be your first guitar, shit is what you want. You won't be able to appreciate the difference yet, anyway. A Gibson Les Paul is the same as a Squire start-up kit Stratocaster to the beginning guitar player. Once you learn the ways of the guitar, then you should worry about spending your money for what's right for you. For now, get a piece of shit.
2) As it will be your first guitar, shit is what you want. You won't be able to appreciate the difference yet, anyway. A Gibson Les Paul is the same as a Squire start-up kit Stratocaster to the beginning guitar player. Once you learn the ways of the guitar, then you should worry about spending your money for what's right for you. For now, get a piece of shit.
Don't buy a guitar package!!!
(One that comes with an amp, a strap, picks, etc)
Go to a GOOD guitar shop and buy a used one. A Fender, Gibson, or a Ric is great and will hold value better than any other guitar.
You won't get a good NEW guitar for under $300 but you can find some serious stuff USED.
(One that comes with an amp, a strap, picks, etc)
Go to a GOOD guitar shop and buy a used one. A Fender, Gibson, or a Ric is great and will hold value better than any other guitar.
You won't get a good NEW guitar for under $300 but you can find some serious stuff USED.
I guess MusicMan has a point. And considering my dad is afraid of spending too much money (he says in a couple of months I might just get tired of the guitar), maybe a cheap guitar would be a good idea.
So, from that point of view maybe that kit on the internet is the best idea.
Tomorrow I'll talk to him about it. If he accepts to buy a better equipment, good. If not, I'll just go for that "starter kit" I found on the internet.
Thanks everybody for helping!
So, from that point of view maybe that kit on the internet is the best idea.
Tomorrow I'll talk to him about it. If he accepts to buy a better equipment, good. If not, I'll just go for that "starter kit" I found on the internet.
Thanks everybody for helping!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iGSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You know Zebonka, I know you! It may seem odd but I'm fairly certain if I remember you right I went to Leederville TAFE and saw you a couple of dozen times. I was back stage when your band/you played the end of We Will Rock You thinking 'Geez, that guy looks like the Jesus pic of Brian May'. So...yeaaaaaah, just thought I should make mention of that.
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TAFE indeed! Haha.
I've been ashamed of showing my face there after our last performance actually.... haha.
You don't know any unemployed drummers do you? :(
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TAFE indeed! Haha.
I've been ashamed of showing my face there after our last performance actually.... haha.
You don't know any unemployed drummers do you? :(