yeah. i agree with sebastian. if i am not mistaken, elvis had most, if not all, of his songs were composed for him. in short, he's just another pretty face with a mediocre voice singing someone else's hardwork.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: [/QUOTENAME]yeah. i agree with sebastian. if i am not mistaken, elvis had most, if not all, of his songs were composed for him. in short, he's just another pretty face with a mediocre voice singing someone else's hardwork. [/QUOTE]
All. He had some co-authorships, but that was just for reasons of royalties. He couldn't even come up with LYRICS, let alone music!
All. He had some co-authorships, but that was just for reasons of royalties. He couldn't even come up with LYRICS, let alone music!
Elvis still sang beautiful, using different venues such as gospel, rock, and country, he had his loves of different styles of music, Freddie sang deep, deep within his soul he also sang beautiful Freddie could get the job done.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: [/QUOTENAME]yeah. i agree with sebastian. if i am not mistaken, elvis had most, if not all, of his songs were composed for him. in short, he's just another pretty face with a mediocre voice singing someone else's hardwork. [/QUOTE]
All. He had some co-authorships, but that was just for reasons of royalties. He couldn't even come up with LYRICS, let alone music![/QUOTE]
oh. okay. sorry for that error i made. :)
All. He had some co-authorships, but that was just for reasons of royalties. He couldn't even come up with LYRICS, let alone music![/QUOTE]
oh. okay. sorry for that error i made. :)
the ignorance on this site!....elvis sang rock n roll, gospel, country, among other stlyes of music, so how does he sing the same style of music over and over?...The voice of elvis is more famous and loved than freddie will ever be. Even saying that, freddie is easily my personal favorite singer.
I agree Elvis was great, i don't like his most popular hits and the whole Rock & Roll stuff, but i really love his Gospel music, very talented singer. He had a more tenorish and alot of vibrato in his voice when he sang gospel. :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]the ignorance on this site!....elvis sang rock n roll, gospel, country, among other stlyes of music, so how does he sing the same style of music over and over?...The voice of elvis is more famous and loved than freddie will ever be. Even saying that, freddie is easily my personal favorite singer. [/QUOTE]
the musical style changed, but elvis' singing was quite consistent. he didn't crank it up a notch while freddie did. i get your point of view on the fame part, but i honestly feel that he doesn't deserve it. probably the beatles should be the kings of rock and roll, imo.
the musical style changed, but elvis' singing was quite consistent. he didn't crank it up a notch while freddie did. i get your point of view on the fame part, but i honestly feel that he doesn't deserve it. probably the beatles should be the kings of rock and roll, imo.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]BRYCE ON FIRE wrote: [/QUOTENAME]from what i've learnd freddie WAS a good singer
however
it seems he did everything possible to fuck up his larynx** (**also known as the voice box, the home of the vocal cords/folds)
first of all he was a smoker! all air (includeing smoke) has to go through the larynx to get to the lungs. When and if smoke goes through the larynx (or more spicificly the vocal cords they can dry out and then get cracks.
in order to relise the full extent of the damage this acculay causes you must first under stand how the vocal cords work
the vocal cords/folds work by vibrating together
i.e. for a lower note they vibrate slower as for a higher note well... the higher the note the more VPS (vibrations per second)
the problem these cracks (caused by smoking) present is if one of them works itself out to the side of the vocal cord then the two cords can't close properly and there's a hole in your sound production
wich is........bad
the second thing he did that is a litle less obviously dangerous
like you mentiond in the starting of the artical freddie had moments where he pushed sound out (using mainly the throught, instead of using the lungs and diaphram proplery to produce sound) this is not a smart thing to do becuse the final result can be vocal nodles (wich he had!)
what are nodles?
nodles are.... well.... to put it simplely as i can nodles are bumps that form on the vocal cords/folds and get in the way of the vibrations needed for sound production
well that's all i have to say
oh here's a picture of the vocal cords:
http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/vocal-cords200.jpg
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YEY !!! You're my new hero right now ! I was debating posting something like this, but I didn't really feel like it since I already did a few days before on another thread...
however
it seems he did everything possible to fuck up his larynx** (**also known as the voice box, the home of the vocal cords/folds)
first of all he was a smoker! all air (includeing smoke) has to go through the larynx to get to the lungs. When and if smoke goes through the larynx (or more spicificly the vocal cords they can dry out and then get cracks.
in order to relise the full extent of the damage this acculay causes you must first under stand how the vocal cords work
the vocal cords/folds work by vibrating together
i.e. for a lower note they vibrate slower as for a higher note well... the higher the note the more VPS (vibrations per second)
the problem these cracks (caused by smoking) present is if one of them works itself out to the side of the vocal cord then the two cords can't close properly and there's a hole in your sound production
wich is........bad
the second thing he did that is a litle less obviously dangerous
like you mentiond in the starting of the artical freddie had moments where he pushed sound out (using mainly the throught, instead of using the lungs and diaphram proplery to produce sound) this is not a smart thing to do becuse the final result can be vocal nodles (wich he had!)
what are nodles?
nodles are.... well.... to put it simplely as i can nodles are bumps that form on the vocal cords/folds and get in the way of the vibrations needed for sound production
well that's all i have to say
oh here's a picture of the vocal cords:
http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/vocal-cords200.jpg
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YEY !!! You're my new hero right now ! I was debating posting something like this, but I didn't really feel like it since I already did a few days before on another thread...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]BRYCE ON FIRE wrote: [/QUOTENAME]from what i've learnd freddie WAS a good singer
however
it seems he did everything possible to fuck up his larynx** (**also known as the voice box, the home of the vocal cords/folds)
first of all he was a smoker! all air (includeing smoke) has to go through the larynx to get to the lungs. When and if smoke goes through the larynx (or more spicificly the vocal cords they can dry out and then get cracks.
in order to relise the full extent of the damage this acculay causes you must first under stand how the vocal cords work
the vocal cords/folds work by vibrating together
i.e. for a lower note they vibrate slower as for a higher note well... the higher the note the more VPS (vibrations per second)
the problem these cracks (caused by smoking) present is if one of them works itself out to the side of the vocal cord then the two cords can't close properly and there's a hole in your sound production
wich is........bad
the second thing he did that is a litle less obviously dangerous
like you mentiond in the starting of the artical freddie had moments where he pushed sound out (using mainly the throught, instead of using the lungs and diaphram proplery to produce sound) this is not a smart thing to do becuse the final result can be vocal nodles (wich he had!)
what are nodles?
nodles are.... well.... to put it simplely as i can nodles are bumps that form on the vocal cords/folds and get in the way of the vibrations needed for sound production
well that's all i have to say
oh here's a picture of the vocal cords:
http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/vocal-cords200.jpg
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YEY !!! You're my new hero right now ! I was debating posting something like this, but I didn't really feel like it since I already did a few days before on another thread...[/QUOTE]
thanks! =o
however
it seems he did everything possible to fuck up his larynx** (**also known as the voice box, the home of the vocal cords/folds)
first of all he was a smoker! all air (includeing smoke) has to go through the larynx to get to the lungs. When and if smoke goes through the larynx (or more spicificly the vocal cords they can dry out and then get cracks.
in order to relise the full extent of the damage this acculay causes you must first under stand how the vocal cords work
the vocal cords/folds work by vibrating together
i.e. for a lower note they vibrate slower as for a higher note well... the higher the note the more VPS (vibrations per second)
the problem these cracks (caused by smoking) present is if one of them works itself out to the side of the vocal cord then the two cords can't close properly and there's a hole in your sound production
wich is........bad
the second thing he did that is a litle less obviously dangerous
like you mentiond in the starting of the artical freddie had moments where he pushed sound out (using mainly the throught, instead of using the lungs and diaphram proplery to produce sound) this is not a smart thing to do becuse the final result can be vocal nodles (wich he had!)
what are nodles?
nodles are.... well.... to put it simplely as i can nodles are bumps that form on the vocal cords/folds and get in the way of the vibrations needed for sound production
well that's all i have to say
oh here's a picture of the vocal cords:
http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/vocal-cords200.jpg
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YEY !!! You're my new hero right now ! I was debating posting something like this, but I didn't really feel like it since I already did a few days before on another thread...[/QUOTE]
thanks! =o
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]the ignorance on this site!....elvis sang rock n roll, gospel, country, among other stlyes of music, so how does he sing the same style of music over and over?...The voice of elvis is more famous and loved than freddie will ever be. Even saying that, freddie is easily my personal favorite singer. [/QUOTE]
the musical style changed, but elvis' singing was quite consistent. he didn't crank it up a notch while freddie did. i get your point of view on the fame part, but i honestly feel that he doesn't deserve it. probably the beatles should be the kings of rock and roll, imo. [/QUOTE]I think the beatles might have passed him in a way. I'm not the biggest elvis fan, but you have to admit freddie will never be loved like elvis is. Not that I give a shit.
the musical style changed, but elvis' singing was quite consistent. he didn't crank it up a notch while freddie did. i get your point of view on the fame part, but i honestly feel that he doesn't deserve it. probably the beatles should be the kings of rock and roll, imo. [/QUOTE]I think the beatles might have passed him in a way. I'm not the biggest elvis fan, but you have to admit freddie will never be loved like elvis is. Not that I give a shit.
Again great responses, friends!
Now I am a Queen fan through and through and I genuinely believe that Freddie was, is and always will be the greatest vocalist/singer of all time.
Talent wise, if you are comparing him to Elvis, then there is no comparison.
Now I am a big Elvis fan but the fact of the matter is that Freddie was an excellent writer of music and words and his delivery of songs was next to nothing. I know Elvis played the piano but nowhere near as good as Freddie. In my opinion, Freddie wins hands down. Add to that the way he controlled the crowd and his stage presence!
Saying that, on the other side of the coin, I find it quite funny that some people have said Elvis was overrated and his voice was mediocre.
Of course everybody is entitled to their own opinion but I believe Elvis to be the most stereotyped artist of all time. By that, I mean to the non Elvis fans, he was just a fat man, who loved burgers and peanut butter sandwiches, who had a shaky leg and went 'a-ha' with a raised lip.
For some people to say Elvis' voice was mediocre, then I personally feel you are only aware of the songs such as 'Hound Dog', 'Blue Suede Shoes', 'All Shook Up' etc... Again, the stereotype coming into affect again with all the stereotypical songs being associated with Elvis. I know Elvis didn't write the songs but he was and still is the biggest recording artist of all time. There are so many songs that he sang and from so many different genres!
Now I don't believe Elvis had a better voice than Freddie. Freddie could do things and attempted things Elvis never could but Elvis could sing pure raw, rock. All you have to do to witness this is to watch the Elvis Comeback Special from 1968. One of the best live performances I have seen. His voice is just full of raw energy.
Elvis could also sing in a high tone quiet and falsetto. He sang rock, blues, rock 'n roll, funk, gospel, rhythm and blues, ballads, folk, Hawaiian and even rap ('US Mail' and 'Guitar Man').
I could give many examples of the range and power that Elvis had but one example, would be from one of Elvis' last concerts, when he was ill and he performed a song called 'Hurt'. The power and the note he hits and holds at the end of the song will show you exactly that Elvis had more than a mediocre voice.
At the end of the day, there are many excellent vocalist, Roy Orbison being another one. I think Elvis was exceptional and to Freddie's credit, I think he was even better!!!
What about the best live vocal Freddie has ever produced? Live Aid was exceptional! 'A Kind Of Magic' from Stockholm, 1986, was excellent but for me, his best live vocal performance was 'Somebody To Love' from Milton Keynes in 1982 was breathtaking!!!
Now I am a Queen fan through and through and I genuinely believe that Freddie was, is and always will be the greatest vocalist/singer of all time.
Talent wise, if you are comparing him to Elvis, then there is no comparison.
Now I am a big Elvis fan but the fact of the matter is that Freddie was an excellent writer of music and words and his delivery of songs was next to nothing. I know Elvis played the piano but nowhere near as good as Freddie. In my opinion, Freddie wins hands down. Add to that the way he controlled the crowd and his stage presence!
Saying that, on the other side of the coin, I find it quite funny that some people have said Elvis was overrated and his voice was mediocre.
Of course everybody is entitled to their own opinion but I believe Elvis to be the most stereotyped artist of all time. By that, I mean to the non Elvis fans, he was just a fat man, who loved burgers and peanut butter sandwiches, who had a shaky leg and went 'a-ha' with a raised lip.
For some people to say Elvis' voice was mediocre, then I personally feel you are only aware of the songs such as 'Hound Dog', 'Blue Suede Shoes', 'All Shook Up' etc... Again, the stereotype coming into affect again with all the stereotypical songs being associated with Elvis. I know Elvis didn't write the songs but he was and still is the biggest recording artist of all time. There are so many songs that he sang and from so many different genres!
Now I don't believe Elvis had a better voice than Freddie. Freddie could do things and attempted things Elvis never could but Elvis could sing pure raw, rock. All you have to do to witness this is to watch the Elvis Comeback Special from 1968. One of the best live performances I have seen. His voice is just full of raw energy.
Elvis could also sing in a high tone quiet and falsetto. He sang rock, blues, rock 'n roll, funk, gospel, rhythm and blues, ballads, folk, Hawaiian and even rap ('US Mail' and 'Guitar Man').
I could give many examples of the range and power that Elvis had but one example, would be from one of Elvis' last concerts, when he was ill and he performed a song called 'Hurt'. The power and the note he hits and holds at the end of the song will show you exactly that Elvis had more than a mediocre voice.
At the end of the day, there are many excellent vocalist, Roy Orbison being another one. I think Elvis was exceptional and to Freddie's credit, I think he was even better!!!
What about the best live vocal Freddie has ever produced? Live Aid was exceptional! 'A Kind Of Magic' from Stockholm, 1986, was excellent but for me, his best live vocal performance was 'Somebody To Love' from Milton Keynes in 1982 was breathtaking!!!
Any Elvis fan's agree?
Elvis was great listen to the 68 comeback special or "that's the way it is" specifically "just pretend" "i cant stop loving you" "patch it up" excellent, good grief try & sing "jailhouse rock" .. i know Freddie did it, but not as good as that 1957 recording be honest
Freddie did force his vocals but for me it added character
Freddie did force his vocals but for me it added character
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9hpTL0NG8
Listen for yourselves.[/QUOTE]
That's power!
He hits Roy Obisonian heights there..lol
Elvis and Freddie are both magnificant.
Listen for yourselves.[/QUOTE]
That's power!
He hits Roy Obisonian heights there..lol
Elvis and Freddie are both magnificant.